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Interesting "what if" scenarios that could have happened

Post by Rockman X » Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:38 am

I was watching the episode where King Yama says that he's going to send the strongest fighters in hell to fight Buu and I was wondering why he didn't send Super Perfect Cell with Vegeta as he's arguably as strong as a SSj2. I think (the) Buu saga would've been way cooler if Cell tagged up with Vegeta to fight Super Buu instead of Vegito simply steamrolling Buu into submission.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:39 pm

Vegeta could fuse with Goku into Vegito while Cell would be proven useless against Buu. Not to mention no one would trust Cell against Buu.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:58 pm

What If - Raditz was convinced to become good.

What If - Vegeta ended up becoming a Super Saiyan on Namek

What If - Gogeta fought Super Buu or Kid Buu

What If - Gohan achieved SSJ3 instead of Mystic

Thats all the somewhat interesting what ifs I can think of at the moment.
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Re: Interesting "what if" scenarios that could have happened

Post by Patrick » Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:13 pm

What if Vegeta killed Semi-Perfect Cell?
What if Cell absorbed #18 first?
What if Goku couldn't switch his body back with Ginyu?
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Post by TheOverlyMadHatter » Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:15 pm

Here a few I've sometimes thought of:
  • What if Goku had picked up fusion from the Metamorese during his first trip to the afterlife, and fought Freeza as Gogeta?
  • What if Goku had gone through with fusing with Mr. Satan?
  • What if it was Future Gohan that were introduced as opposed to Trunks Stu?
  • What Goku followed Kulilin's advice of shaving his head for the martial artist look?
  • What would happen if Captain Ginyū switched bodies with Gotenks in GT and the fusion wore off? (this is more of an actual question than a scenario)

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Post by Mystic Buu » Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:05 pm

What if Raditz never came to Earth?
What if Goku never caught the virus?
What if Piccolo defeated Imperfect Cell?
What if Goku and Gohan spent another year in RoSaT?

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:07 pm

I've found that most "what-if" questions aren't worth asking, as 99% of them end up with everyone dying. The series just works that way.
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Post by RocktheDragon » Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:26 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:I've found that most "what-if" questions aren't worth asking, as 99% of them end up with everyone dying. The series just works that way.
I still think that many of the "what if" scenarios would be fun short specials worth animating just for the hell of it. I know Dragon Ball Heroes kind of fills that void with regards to battle match ups though so...go animate DB Heroes already Toei.
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Post by RocktheDragon » Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:54 pm

Also, I just came up with what I think would make a very interesting "what if" scenario.

What if Raditz took Gohan and raised him with Nappa and Vegeta?
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:00 pm

Mystic Buu wrote: What if Goku never caught the virus?
I would imagine that Goku would still die from #18 & #18 in Trunks and Cell timeline if he didn't caught the heart virus.
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Post by TheOverlyMadHatter » Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:28 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:What If - Raditz was convinced to become good.

What If - Vegeta ended up becoming a Super Saiyan on Namek
RocktheDragon wrote:Also, I just came up with what I think would make a very interesting "what if" scenario.

What if Raditz took Gohan and raised him with Nappa and Vegeta?
There's actually pretty well written fanfics based on those ideas.
Kamiccolo9 wrote:I've found that most "what-if" questions aren't worth asking, as 99% of them end up with everyone dying. The series just works that way.
I disagree. There are plenty of possible "what-if" scenarios in which our heroes live, or have their fates left ambiguous at worst.
Mystic Buu wrote:What if Goku and Gohan spent another year in RoSaT?
Goku would have easily handled Cell, Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, Goten, and Trunks would be even more powerful than they originally were by the Buu Arc (the latter three were affected by Goku's presence), and if they somehow manage to not screw up the fight with Fat Buu, we get an ending that most likely doesn't have Uub.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:04 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:
What If - Vegeta ended up becoming a Super Saiyan on Namek
I think Vegeta would likely kill Freeza before he can destroy the Planet. Unlike Cell, I doubt he would let Freeza use his full power. Vegeta most likely try to kill Goku and the others after he finish off Freeza. Vegeta could have destroy the Earth later on and the Cell saga - GT would never happen.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:38 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:
KentalSSJ6 wrote:
What If - Vegeta ended up becoming a Super Saiyan on Namek
I think Vegeta would likely kill Freeza before he can destroy the Planet. Unlike Cell, I doubt he would let Freeza use his full power. Vegeta most likely try to kill Goku and the others after he finish off Freeza. Vegeta could have destroy the Earth later on and the Cell saga - GT would never happen.
Wasent Vegeta only at 250k when fighting Freeza?

250k X 50 = 12.5 Million.

Still less than a third of Freeza's full strength. So the only thing Vegeta does is give Freeza a massive ego boost.
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Post by Nanotchi » Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:49 pm

What If Pilaf got his wish for world domination?

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:57 pm

Mystic Buu wrote:What if Raditz never came to Earth?
What if Piccolo defeated Imperfect Cell?
1. #17 - Gero would be a lot of weaker, but they might be still be strong enough to kill Goku and the others. Before #17 and #18 show up, I think Goku and Piccolo would keep on fighting each other. Cell would have the DNA of only Goku and Piccolo, making him much weaker. I would imagine his perfect form would be much weaker then Freeza.

2. Piccolo would likely end up killing #17 and maybe #18. Kuririn will try to tell that he loves #18, but Piccolo won't listen and kill #18. Goku and Vegeta might have another rematch and Goku wins due to PIS. Goku would likely be alive during the Buu saga and Vegeta might not become Majin since Goku is still alive. Goku was on Earth for 24 hours which is why Vegeta went on his little rant during the battle between Gohan and Dabra. I think Goku might be strong enough to go SSj2 and he could finish off Dabra. Buu would never hatch from his egg and everyone would live on having a happy life. Beerus would never bother destroying the Earth and he would be let down that the SSJG was nothing more then a legend. In GT, Bebi might take over the Earth and the series would end at the Bebi saga.
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Post by Rockman X » Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:18 am

KentalSSJ6 wrote:What If - Raditz was convinced to become good
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that's intersting for 2 reasons 1) is that he's goku's brother and would live with him 2) Yamcha&krillin get stronger than him in saiyan saga lol that would've been hilarious.
Hellspawn28 wrote:Vegeta could fuse with Goku into Vegito while Cell would be proven useless against Buu. Not to mention no one would trust Cell against Buu.
If vegeta&piccolo can learn from their mistakes maybe cell could too,even kid buu who was pure evil and he got a second chance so its only fair that cell gets his chance to repent.
What if it was Future Gohan that were introduced as opposed to Trunks
Actually i was wondering why Gohan didn't go SSj2 in the future...

What if Gohan went SSj2 in the future? he would've squashed the androids&cell like bugs.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:06 pm

I think Future Gohan was not strong enough to become SSj2. If he went back in time instead, I think he would not kill Freeza and King Cold like Trunks did. He might train with his younger self because I doubt he would want to train with Vegeta. I think Future Gohan would have killed Semi-Perfect Cell, #16 and #18 then return back to his own timeline. In the Buu saga, Goku would be alive and he would able to see Goten be born for the first time. Since Goku is alive in the Buu saga, Vegeta would never go Majin and they would kill Babidi before Buu can hatch.
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Post by Rockman X » Thu Mar 13, 2014 9:55 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:I think Future Gohan was not strong enough to become SSj2. If he went back in time instead, I think he would not kill Freeza and King Cold like Trunks did. He might train with his younger self because I doubt he would want to train with Vegeta. I think Future Gohan would have killed Semi-Perfect Cell, #16 and #18 then return back to his own timeline. In the Buu saga, Goku would be alive and he would able to see Goten be born for the first time. Since Goku is alive in the Buu saga, Vegeta would never go Majin and they would kill Babidi before Buu can hatch.
I think this is a serious plothole if anything.. gohan was so weak especially in the manga where gohan gets beaten so easily by Cyborg 17,if gohan can get SSj2 in just one year of training how come his power didn't increase in 10 years training with trunks? it makes no sense the future gohan was in constant agony of people dying all over the place if anything his power should've skyrocketed in the future.

And Babdi should have appeared in the future when trunks was younger and he didn't for some reason. >_>
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Mar 13, 2014 9:58 am

Rockman X wrote:If vegeta&piccolo can learn from their mistakes maybe cell could too,even kid buu who was pure evil and he got a second chance so its only fair that cell gets his chance to repent.
Cell is not Vegeta or Piccolo. Cell would never team up with Goku and the others to stop Buu. In the anime, we see Goku fighting Buu in Hell and it looks like the other villains wanted Buu to win.
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Post by SuicidalZerg » Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:23 am

What if Gohan listened to Goku and finished Cell off immediately?
What if Trunks had met with Goku alone like he originally intended to, rather than running into the others?
What if Goku trained with Trunks and Vegeta trained with Gohan, or Goku trained with Vegeta and Trunks trained with Gohan?
What if Goku didn't cut Gohan's hair quite so short in the ROSAT? :)
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