Things that didn't make sense in-universe

[Kamiccolo9]

Why would Goku care if a prick like Vegeta died? He outright said he hated him and maintained he deserved death after the fact.

When was this?

After Vegeta was killed by Freeza. I may be remembering it wrong, but I recall him saying that he hated Vegeta but respected his pride.

That doesn't sound like something Goku would say, and it doesn't really fit with how he treats Vegeta. And you didn't say where Goku says that Vegeta deserved death.

[RandomGuy96]

That doesn't sound like something Goku would say, and it doesn't really fit with how he treats Vegeta. And you didn't say where Goku says that Vegeta deserved death.

Well, I'm being general there. He says that the Saiyans in general deserved what Freeza did to them. I presume that includes Vegeta.

[Kamiccolo9]

That doesn't sound like something Goku would say, and it doesn't really fit with how he treats Vegeta. And you didn't say where Goku says that Vegeta deserved death.

Well, I'm being general there. He says that the Saiyans in general deserved what Freeza did to them. I presume that includes Vegeta.

Where does he say that the Saiyans deserved what happened to them?

[Hades]

But Krillin had already been revived when he was killed by Buu, along with most of Earth's population from the Cell Saga and King Piccolo. Even the fact that you can resurrect your wife and children if they've been eaten by a sadistic psychopath doesn't mean you'd be more willing to forgive said psychopath.

Goku can teleport to Namek easily enough. When Krillin died, the Namek dragon balls were already gone and Piccolo had been hit by Freeza apparently fatally, which would also destroy the earth dragon balls. In the Buu saga, no matter what happened, as long as Namek was safe, nothing was really lost, and Namek was never in danger in the buu saga.

The problem is, Buu did a LOT more than kill Goku's friends and family. It also tortured them in ways that would disgust freeza (I doubt even he would brag to Vegeta about how he devoured his father whole or absorbed him in whole or in part). And for all Goku knew, if Buu was killed, there was a chance they would die with him, permanently.

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

Eventually Kid Buu would have reached Namek during his "planet spree" he kept destroying probably whole sections of galaxies until Goku and Vegeta made it to the Kai planet.

[rereboy]

The problem is, Buu did a LOT more than kill Goku's friends and family. It also tortured them in ways that would disgust freeza (I doubt even he would brag to Vegeta about how he devoured his father whole or absorbed him in whole or in part). And for all Goku knew, if Buu was killed, there was a chance they would die with him, permanently.

There is no reason for him to assume that. The general feeling during all the Buu saga is that they could reverse it all thanks to the Dragon Balls, they even commented on that a couple of times.

Eventually Kid Buu would have reached Namek during his "planet spree" he kept destroying probably whole sections of galaxies until Goku and Vegeta made it to the Kai planet.

Obviously they would have to kill Buu first. But it was never hopeless as long as they won the fight. And if they didn't, nothing else would matter.

[RandomGuy96]

That doesn't sound like something Goku would say, and it doesn't really fit with how he treats Vegeta. And you didn't say where Goku says that Vegeta deserved death.

Found it.

[Kid Buu]

So its alright that Freeza kills him, but not Krillin.

What a dick, didn't want sidekick to get spotlight.

[garnetjester]

I think Goku was pretty shaken about Earth blowing up and his sons dying, as evidenced when Vegeta berates him for picking up Mr Satan and Dende. But when he's actually winning against Buu, and he knows the genki dama is going to kill him, he knows everything will be alright but hopes that a strong opponent like Buu can show up again to fight against him when he's not evil. I mean, he doesn't want evil Buu to be back, he just wants to fight a good guy as strong as Buu because Goku always wants to fight strong people.

[Kamiccolo9]

That doesn't sound like something Goku would say, and it doesn't really fit with how he treats Vegeta. And you didn't say where Goku says that Vegeta deserved death.

Found it.

Huh. I wonder what the original says.

[Dbzfan94]

Mr. Satan is the strongest non-z fighter human which is why everyone believe that he killed Cell and Buu. I bet at the end of GT, he most likely got the credit for killing all of the Shadow Dragons.

Nah I think Goku was finally recognized by the regular humans as the hero in GT. In the 64th (I think) Tournament, they had a statue of Goku in the stadium.

[goku the krump dancer]

Vegeta's statement may have been a brief state of denial but it isnt too far from the truth since technically at full power he could wax anybody who's not Freeza or King Cold.

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

I think Goku was pretty shaken about Earth blowing up and his sons dying, as evidenced when Vegeta berates him for picking up Mr Satan and Dende. But when he's actually winning against Buu, and he knows the genki dama is going to kill him, he knows everything will be alright but hopes that a strong opponent like Buu can show up again to fight against him when he's not evil. I mean, he doesn't want evil Buu to be back, he just wants to fight a good guy as strong as Buu because Goku always wants to fight strong people.

Vegeta didn't realize at first but Goku made the smarter decision bringing Dende with them. Without Dende, there would never be an Earth again.

If he brought back the kids instead of Dende, cool that you have your family but now the human race is gone. Win/Lose situation for everybody.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

Theres a lot of confusing concepts about Buu that I thought were very inconsistant and hard to follow.

What I dont get is why Kid Buu would absorb other characters far weaker than himself? Why absorb the kais at all?

Then theres also the selective absorption thing. Why didnt he turn into dabura when he ate him? But Evil buu turned into Super Buu from eating Fat Buu.

Also, if pure hearted characters make Buu Good, why was he still evil when he absorbed Gotenks, Piccolo and Gohan?

Why did Buu get smarter when he absorbed Gotenks and Piccolo but dumber and whinier when he absorbed Gohan? If Buus personality is defined by who he absorbs why did he still want to kill Goku after absorbing all his friends who love him?

[rereboy]

Vegeta didn't realize at first but Goku made the smarter decision bringing Dende with them. Without Dende, there would never be an Earth again.

If he brought back the kids instead of Dende, cool that you have your family but now the human race is gone. Win/Lose situation for everybody.

Yes, there would be a Earth. The Namek Dragon Balls would just do the same thing they did: bring back Earth and everyone that died. The Earth Dragon Balls weren't essential as long as they had the ones in Namek.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

Vegeta didn't realize at first but Goku made the smarter decision bringing Dende with them. Without Dende, there would never be an Earth again.

If he brought back the kids instead of Dende, cool that you have your family but now the human race is gone. Win/Lose situation for everybody.

Yes, there would be a Earth. The Namek Dragon Balls would just do the same thing they did: bring back Earth and everyone that died. The Earth Dragon Balls weren't essential as long as they had the ones in Namek.

Wasnt dende the one that reminded them of that option though? Without him they would have just assumed nothing was reversable.

[rereboy]

Vegeta didn't realize at first but Goku made the smarter decision bringing Dende with them. Without Dende, there would never be an Earth again.

If he brought back the kids instead of Dende, cool that you have your family but now the human race is gone. Win/Lose situation for everybody.

Yes, there would be a Earth. The Namek Dragon Balls would just do the same thing they did: bring back Earth and everyone that died. The Earth Dragon Balls weren't essential as long as they had the ones in Namek.

Wasnt dende the one that reminded them of that option though? Without him they would have just assumed nothing was reversable.

No, Vegeta told them to go to Namek and gather the Dragon Balls so that they could do his Genki Dama plan. Dende being there didn't matter.

Theres a lot of confusing concepts about Buu that I thought were poorly handled. A lot of the saga didnt make sense to me after the Majin arc.

What I dont get is why Kid Buu would absorb other characters far weaker than himself? Why absorb the kais at all?

Then theres also the selective absorption thing. Why didnt he turn into dabura when he ate him? But Evil buu turned into Super Buu from eating Fat Buu.

Also, if pure hearted characters make Buu Good, why was he still evil when he absorbed Gotenks, Piccolo and Gohan?

Why did Buu get smarter when he absorbed Gotenks and Piccolo but dumber and whinier when he absorbed Gohan? If Buus personality is defined by who he absorbs why did he still want to kill Goku after absorbing all his friends who love him?

Kid Buu doesn't really need a reason. He is crazy and chaotic. He probably just absorbed them because he felt like it.

People eaten by Buu aren't absorbed. Fat Buu was the only exception, he got special treatment, as mentioned by Super Buu to Goku. In fact, Fat Buu was turned into food by his own magic beam, it wasn't Gray Buu's idea to turn him into food. So, when he did, Gray Buu gave him special treatment in order to absorb him and not just eat him.

The people that Buu absorbs influence him, but normally they don't change his personality drastically. That only happened when he absorbed Dai Kaioshin, the highest of the Gods. The reason why he had such a profound and unusual effect on Buu is unknown but its probably linked to the fact that he is the highest god, the most "holy" of them.

Buu didn't really become dumber after absorbing Gohan. It may appear so but its just because of the way the plot was structured and the fact that Vegetto was destroying his pride and making him angry. He still wanted to kill Goku because the people he absorbs normally don't change his personality, they just influence him a bit.

All this can be correctly interpreted in the manga, even if its not very clear sometimes.

[Polyphase Avatron]

I've got one: In the 23rd Budokai, Cyborg Tao was disqualified for using a knife, but no one complained beforehand when he used what was essentially a gun (sure, it was basically an enhancer for his own ki powers, but I doubt the referees would have been able to figure that out right away).

[rereboy]

I've got one: In the 23rd Budokai, Cyborg Tao was disqualified for using a knife, but no one complained beforehand when he used what was essentially a gun (sure, it was basically an enhancer for his own ki powers, but I doubt the referees would have been able to figure that out right away).

After he had already been disqualified for using a knife and refused to leave the match, it wouldn't matter if grew a cannon out of his body (like it basically did). The referee had already done what he could, which was disqualify him.

[Saiga]

I've got one: In the 23rd Budokai, Cyborg Tao was disqualified for using a knife, but no one complained beforehand when he used what was essentially a gun (sure, it was basically an enhancer for his own ki powers, but I doubt the referees would have been able to figure that out right away).

The Super Dodonpa happened after he tried to use the knife. So like rereboy said, he was already disqualified.