Who says that it was? I've always took them freaking out as more of a reaction to Goku and Vegeta's attitude moreso that them freaking out at the breaking of the earrings themselves. I mean, we see Kaioshins materializing stuff all the time, and the earrings had to come from somewhere.RandomGuy96 wrote:If they could just materialize new ones whenever they want, why would they be so special, and why would breaking them be such a big deal?
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Well, I disagree, because I think they're treated as much more special than that would imply in-story (e.g. Kibitoshin offering Goku his pair instead of just spawning new ones, Old Kai calling them ultimate secret weapons, Goku regretting breaking the only pair that was left).
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Fair enough. I just don't think that Goku's reaction should really have any bearing on this. What does he know?RandomGuy96 wrote:Well, I disagree, because I think they're treated as much more special than that would imply in-story (e.g. Kibitoshin offering Goku his pair instead of just spawning new ones, Old Kai calling them ultimate secret weapons, Goku regretting breaking the only pair that was left).
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Expanding on my previous post Omega Shenron can destroy the universe (which is just 4 galaxies?) while calling Whis a galaxy buster is kinda generous. Also I have SSJ Vegetto at a 3, SSJ2 Vegetto a 6, and SSJ3 at 24.
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We don't know where the Potara come from. Do Kaioshin materialize them? Apparently not. There is probably a place where they create them or something.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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...I'm fairly sure this was more of an "all this negative energy will eventually build up and spread out even further and break down the universe" sort of situation, not a "he can literally blow up the whole universe just like that if he tries (in the same way that Roshi can destroy a moon, or Freeza can destroy a planet, or Super Perfect Cell can destroy a sun/solar system)" sort of thing. More like... his presence sort of acts like pollution or radiation or something along those lines on a universal level, just corrupting everything into a version of that place that isn't really inhabitable anymore rather than literally destroying it right away. Not quite the same thing.Omega Shenron can destroy the universe (which is just 4 galaxies?)
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Pretty much, yeah. Besides, wasn't it stated in GT that shadow dragons had appeared before and the universe wasn't destroyed?Pantalones wrote:...I'm fairly sure this was more of an "all this negative energy will eventually build up and spread out even further and break down the universe" sort of situation, not a "he can literally blow up the whole universe just like that if he tries (in the same way that Roshi can destroy a moon, or Freeza can destroy a planet, or Super Perfect Cell can destroy a sun/solar system)" sort of thing. More like... his presence sort of acts like pollution or radiation or something along those lines on a universal level, just corrupting everything into a version of that place that isn't really inhabitable anymore rather than literally destroying it right away. Not quite the same thing.Omega Shenron can destroy the universe (which is just 4 galaxies?)
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SSj2 Cell Saga Gohan vs. Future Super Perfect Cell. Would SPC from Trunks timeline would be stronger or weaker then his main timeline counterpart?
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Why would he be any different?Hellspawn28 wrote:SSj2 Cell Saga Gohan vs. Future Super Perfect Cell. Would SPC from Trunks timeline would be stronger or weaker then his main timeline counterpart?
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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I recall that #17 and #18 in Trunks timeline was weaker. I would imagine Cell in Trunks timeline be weaker then the one in Goku's timeline.
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Didn't the one in Goku timeline die =/. Also Future Cell should be the same as Future Cell. They come from pretty much the SAME timeline except the Future Cell we saw(Goku's timeline) killed Trunks. The one in Trunks's timeline didn't kill Trunks. Everything else is the same. Now if it was PRESENT Cell(Saying if he didn't die by Krillin) then PRESENT Cell would have gotten dna and info from Future Cell(Super Perfect), Kamicoolo, SSJ2 Vegeta, SSJ2 Gohan, and Boo. But since Boo destroyed EarthHellspawn28 wrote:I recall that #17 and #18 in Trunks timeline was weaker. I would imagine Cell in Trunks timeline be weaker then the one in Goku's timeline.
Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Yakon vs Kibito vs Base Gohan (Boo Arc)
Assuming they are in the Budokai Tenkaichi.
Assuming they are in the Budokai Tenkaichi.
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If Vegeta let Kenshiro do his pressure points on him, would they work? Saiyan Saga Vegeta.
Something like,
Vegeta: Come on, give me your best shot! Go ahead.
Kenshiro: OMAE WA MOU SHINDEIRU
> 10 seconds later
BOOM
Something like,
Vegeta: Come on, give me your best shot! Go ahead.
Kenshiro: OMAE WA MOU SHINDEIRU
> 10 seconds later
BOOM
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Yajirobe (in his debut) vs Tenshinhan (in his debut)
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#17 & #18 were different because Goku's death obviously made Dr. Gero change his plans, so it seems that he suppressed their powers, made them more evil, and unleashed them in South City, instead of unleashing #19 & himself.Hellspawn28 wrote:I recall that #17 and #18 in Trunks timeline was weaker. I would imagine Cell in Trunks timeline be weaker then the one in Goku's timeline.
But Cell shouldn't be any different, since Dr. Gero had abandoned him before the timeline split. Plus, the Cell that Gohan killed was Future Cell from Timeline 3, Present Cell from Timeline 1 was killed by Trunks & Kuririn.
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Very tough.They both gave a hard battle against Goku.Yajirobe has his sword,but Tien can use ki.I would say Tien wins.Kid Buu wrote:Yajirobe (in his debut) vs Tenshinhan (in his debut)
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Oozaru Tullece with Tree of Might fruit consumed VS First Form Freeza.
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Oozaru would increase his power 1/5 that of a full SSJ transformation, after eating that freaky fruit. Freeza doesn't stand a chance.KentalSSJ6 wrote:Oozaru Tullece with Tree of Might fruit consumed VS First Form Freeza.
FPSSJ Goku in the Cell games vs. SSJ2 adult Gohan at the world tournament.
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Ssj2 Gohan easily. He wasn't that much weaker. Infact I might say Gohan power dropped to Cell Goku(if they in same form)
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Normal SS Gohan stomps Goku flat.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.










