Would you enjoy an official dub done by Team Four Star?

[Akumaito Beam]

Besides, even Mike said in his review of the first Kai set that Schemmel captures that "happy, nonchalant, everyday version" of Goku well (and he's not an old dubbie relying on nostalgia, his Goku is Masako Nozawa).

As for Peter Kelamis, I like his work, but he really more time to make Goku his own, like Schemmel got to. It could have been a better performance if that were given with a Kai-level treatment. An actor's gotta make a role their own before they can truly shine.

I'm totally aware that Sean got really good at flipping on and off the happy go lucky shtick. That to me is a case of very good acting but it doesn't make the voice itself appropriate. To expand on what I said earlier I truly believe that Sean did everything he could to make his version of Goku more representative of the original but when it comes to the voice at its core it's just not suited for the character to my ears. The voice is too intelligent and action orientated (which is maybe a better way to put it. Sorry if I used an ignorant phrase.) It to me is your average run of the mill "good guy" voice. I just don't think he's appropriate for the role no matter how I slice it.

I totally agree with you on that second part, absolutely.

[WittyUsername]

Besides, even Mike said in his review of the first Kai set that Schemmel captures that "happy, nonchalant, everyday version" of Goku well (and he's not an old dubbie relying on nostalgia, his Goku is Masako Nozawa).

As for Peter Kelamis, I like his work, but he really more time to make Goku his own, like Schemmel got to. It could have been a better performance if that were given with a Kai-level treatment. An actor's gotta make a role their own before they can truly shine.

I'm totally aware that Sean got really good at flipping on and off the happy go lucky shtick. That to me is a case of very good acting but it doesn't make the voice itself appropriate. To expand on what I said earlier I truly believe that Sean did everything he could to make his version of Goku more representative of the original but when it comes to the voice at its core it's just not suited for the character to my ears. The voice is too intelligent and action orientated (which is maybe a better way to put it. Sorry if I used an ignorant phrase.) It to me is your average run of the mill "good guy" voice. I just don't think he's appropriate for the role no matter how I slice it.

I totally agree with you on that second part, absolutely.

I apologize if I come off as being confrontational, but what do you mean by "too intelligent sounding?" Do you mean that his dialogue for Goku sounds too sophisticated, or do you mean that the voice itself makes the character sound too intelligent? If it's the latter then I don't really see how that can be the case.

[ABED]

I'm sorry if I was confusing. I type fairly quickly and don't edit as much as I should. I meant that Goku is goofy and happy much of the time but his voice shouldn't sound goofy or Goofy. Unfortunately it's hard to put into the written word exactly what my issue is. Kelamis and Nadolny have this weird cadence where they have these odd ups and downs in the same sentence that don't come off as natural. Sean's delivery is far more natural. Whatever vestiges of the action hero and Superfriends delivery he had has long since been gone. Yes, he has a deeper voice but I think it works just fine. Not everyone should sound like Nozawa. Both she and Schemmel have different voices but get the core of the character, by and large.

Too action oriented? Not sure what this means, of all things, Goku is most certainly action oriented. He's happy go lucky, but not all the time.

[Mewzard]

Somewhat relevant on the discussion of Goku, I found this:

http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videol ... es-of-goku

MasakoX talking about the assorted voices of (adult) Goku (English Dubs and Masako Nozawa) and how they differ/what their strengths are.

You really could spend quite a long time just discussing what each actor brought to the table as Goku and where they were best as Goku in some sub area of his character.

The character really can be done in a multitude of ways that capture the character's spirit.

My issue with what you're saying Akumaito Beam is that I'm not sure what you mean by "too intelligent" and "action orientated". The dialogue really doesn't support too intelligent, and he's not saying words particularly fancy...did you want Goku to sound like a Hick from the south to convey that side of Goku? Because I don't think it would work. Most people would just mock it and be unable to take any serious scenes with Goku all that serious.

As for "action orientated"...Goku's a fighter to his core. His entire life is action orientated, so I really don't understand what the complaint is, much less why it's a problem. Goku lives to fight people, that's his thing.

If the issue is that they didn't go for a Nozawa performance...then it's not a problem. There's only one Masako Nozawa, and neither her dub counterparts, nor any future Goku voice actors should try and mimic her Goku. Certainly, elements can be drawn upon, but unless they want to be known just as her "dub counterpart" or "replacement", they need to make the role their own.

In my mind, when viewing a dub, it shouldn't come down to "how close it sounds to the original actor", it should come down to "how good is the voice/performance for the character". You'd be surprised how some voices can really work for a character. James Bond wasn't always played by the same actor, but when the new actor made it his own, you appreciated that actor for their work, not just as Sean Connery's replacement.

[Valerius Dover]

That's one thing that's always bugged me about people criticizing the dub just because the voices sound different from the original. I see this with other series, too. (I know many people hate the dub for other reasons, too, but I don't want to go into that here). They are actors, not imitators.

[ABED]

That's one thing that's always bugged me about people criticizing the dub just because the voices sound different from the original. I see this with other series, too. (I know many people hate the dub for other reasons, too, but I don't want to go into that here). They are actors, not imitators.

FUNi's in-house actors were first hired to imitate the previous cast, and their performances suffered as a consequence.

[Mewzard]

FUNi's in-house actors were first hired to imitate the previous cast, and their performances suffered as a consequence.

And they got good as time went on, starting to make the performances their own rather than poor imitations of past actors. It's better they got good and made the characters their own, rather than just getting better at mimicking the old cast.

[ABED]

FUNi's in-house actors were first hired to imitate the previous cast, and their performances suffered as a consequence.

And they got good as time went on, starting to make the performances their own rather than poor imitations of past actors. It's better they got good and made the characters their own, rather than just getting better at mimicking the old cast.

Agreed, and I wish that had been FUNi's philosophy since the beginning. We might not have had to suffer through Linda Young's Freeza, Schemmel's Kaio, Dale Kelly, or Vollmer's Bulma. They might have cast actors who were appropriate for the roles.

[Daimo-Rukiri]

As much as I like their parody, no, no, and triple no. The voices are fine for such a project that is making fun of the tv series, it would just be outright bad if they went with that approach and the fact that I think the voices are misplaced(obviously for a parody) to begin with.

[IAmTheMilkMan]

Reflecting a lot of the views that have already been mentioned here, I think that if TFS set out to produce a non-parody dub that they would do a good job. With non-parody in mind, they would obviously choose different voices for a lot of the characters, but I think they could pull off a competent dub. And I, too, will say that Kaiserneko's Future Trunks sounds very, very good. Better than Vale.

Actually, given that they already have the equipment, I would love to see them take on a complete re-dub of the original Dragon Ball series which is in desperate need of a faithful re-dub, as I can't stand the Funimation dub. I don't believe that DBZ needs re-dubbing now that Kai is around, but Dragon Ball needs it. It would also be nice to see them take a crack at re-dubbing the two specials and a lot of the movies.

[Captain Sauza]

Now that there's apparently a new anime coming out, it would be a great opportunity for TFS to do the voices of the characters instead of the cast that did kai. Would make things more fresh and exciting.

[Demon of Light]

The Abridged Series' cast are actually my favored English voices for the characters, over many of the official voice actors (the main exception is Freeza, I love Chris Ayres and LittleKuriboh's performances equally). Team Four Star are an incredibly talented bunch, and unlike a lot of anime voice actors, I never feel like they're phoning their performances in. And they're more than just funny guys - the Cell Saga in particular (Trunks Special included) has displayed their ability to play things out with as much emotional impact as the original anime, sometimes even more. I would definitely enjoy any hypothetical official dub by them, provided the end produce is identical or near-identical to the original in terms of content. Realistically, they would likely choose some different voices for several characters, considering how some of them are throwbacks to previous dub voices that were too hilarious not to make fun of, like Space Australia!Jeice. Though I'll be honest, if anyone could make me believe in Space Australia!Jeice as a legitimate character, it's Team Four Star.

(Disclaimer: I do not actually want Space Australia!Jeice outside of The Abridged Series.)

[ABED]

The Abridged Series' cast are actually my favored English voices for the characters, over many of the official voice actors (the main exception is Freeza, I love Chris Ayres and LittleKuriboh's performances equally). Team Four Star are an incredibly talented bunch, and unlike a lot of anime voice actors, I never feel like they're phoning their performances in. And they're more than just funny guys - the Cell Saga in particular (Trunks Special included) has displayed their ability to play things out with as much emotional impact as the original anime, sometimes even more. I would definitely enjoy any hypothetical official dub by them, provided the end produce is identical or near-identical to the original in terms of content. Realistically, they would likely choose some different voices for several characters, considering how some of them are throwbacks to previous dub voices that were too hilarious not to make fun of, like Space Australia!Jeice. Though I'll be honest, if anyone could make me believe in Space Australia!Jeice as a legitimate character, it's Team Four Star.

(Disclaimer: I do not actually want Space Australia!Jeice outside of The Abridged Series.)

Are we on Bizarro world?

I don't think they're talented, much less capable of delivering a good legit dub. This is a parody show, so I fail to see how they are capable of delivering anything with emotional impact, and certainly not to the same extent as the original anime. What scene has as much emotional impact as the original?

[Doctor.]

I guess the scene where Piccolo fuses with God, they managed to give a lot more depth to God's character, despite all the jokes they make around him.

[VegettoEX]

Are we on Bizarro world?

I don't think they're talented, much less capable of delivering a good legit dub. This is a parody show, so I fail to see how they are capable of delivering anything with emotional impact, and certainly not to the same extent as the original anime.

Is there a particular reason you feel the need, pretty much every time I see someone note their enjoyment of the Abridged voices, to pop in and say you think they're crazy?

We get it. Really.

You're free to add to the conversation, but you're not actually conversing here. You're just spewing hate. And it's getting a bit old.

[shonenhikada]

Is it true team4star members make over 5 million from their youtube channel ?

[VegettoEX]

Is it true team4star members make over 5 million from their youtube channel ?

In no world does anyone from TeamFourStar make anything resembling that from any work they do on unofficial, unlicensed parody projects.

And if they do, Scott needs to start paying for some TeamFourStar/Kanzenshuu & Friends Cruises Around the World. Cough up, Mr. Moneybags.

[fadeddreams5]

Sean's voice is awesome and iconic for me. I can't imagine another Goku for English. I actually liked the Ocean dub voice for Goku at the start of DBZ, but it sounds really weird as Goku becomes more muscular (or the art design changed).

As for TFS, I hate Goku's voice in that parody. It's the only voice in it I can't stand; I love everyone else's VAs. Don't know how they'd do in an actual (serious) dub, but as parodies of the official dub voices, they're spot on.

Is it true team4star members make over 5 million from their youtube channel ?

5 million dollars? They don't make ANY money for their parody videos on their Youtube.

[DemonRin]

I think, barring a few missteps that are still there (Kaio being a big one) the FUNi Kai dub is quite good, and don't know if I'd clamor for anything different at this point truth be told.

Hypothetically tho, I know that DBA is intentionally done to be comedic, so a lot of their voices and writing is slanted towards that, and in that regard, I think they could do well if given the opportunity to do a more straightforward Dub, but they'd have to do a few things differently, especially in the casting department. They'd need to diversify their casting pool a bit. FUNi didn't cast Chris Sabat as everybody in the original Z dub because they wanted to, they were a much younger company and didn't have a big talent pool to draw from. That's why they recast a lot of minor roles in Kai since they now had that talent pool to draw from. TFS would need to do something similar in the hypothetical situation they got an official dub contract, but I do think some of their voices are great and would love to see them try a more serious dub, at least like one or two eps to see what it was like.

Their Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, Kuririn, Tenshinhan, Piccolo, Trunks, Freeza, 17, 18, and Cell are all brilliant for example.

Is it true team4star members make over 5 million from their youtube channel ?

I know for a fact they can't monetize the actual DBA or Hellsing Abridged episodes due to copyright, but I'm pretty sure their TFS Gaming videos are monetized. They also sell merch of some of their original content, like quotes from the shows etc. (I bought a friend their "Bitch I eat people" shirt) so they DO make money from it, but I think $5 million is a massive stretch. I'd be surprised if they even made a full million on all of that. I'm pretty sure they all still have day jobs, which is why we only really get one DBA a month.

If they were making even ONE Million Dollars, you can bet they wouldn't have day jobs.

[KaiserNeko]

Holy shit, 5 million? Try, like... 1% of that. Maybe 1.5%.

We cannot monetize copyrighted footage, songs, etc. Even if we COULD, well... we still wouldn't be making anywhere close to 1 million.

As for an official dub: I think a lot of the actors we have are capable of professional roles. I mean, hell! Most of us are already being cast in official dubs, and some of us in prelay in different parts of the country. But an official dub of DragonBall? Eh, if we had a professional studio and access to more actors, I'd put a soft "maybe" on the table. Certainly wouldn't use the exact same cast we have now.