Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" Dub Turns 16; Still Unreleased

[UltimateHammerBro]

Just don't give Kirby Morrow the role of Goku ever again.

Ironically, the first information we ever received was that he wouldn't be Goku.
Am I the only one who doesn't dislike him in the role?

[Gonstead]

Just don't give Kirby Morrow the role of Goku ever again.

Ironically, the first information we ever received was that he wouldn't be Goku.
Am I the only one who doesn't dislike him in the role?

He's not horrible per say, but he's definitely not someone I would consider first for voicing Goku.

[Solidus]

Scott McNeil at NakaKon 2014 mentions just finishing Kai in Canada at 45:18 and getting the role of Piccolo at 49:00. The way he phrases it makes it sound like they only finished it recently.

Here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc4rQwX4Vfw

[Ajay]

Well, that's good. Nice to have some kinda recent update!

The end part of that with the real Canadian Wolverine was fantastic.

[ShinGaijin]

Thanks Solidus ! Great news !
However, we still don't know where this Ocean's Kai version could be broadcast...

[Fizzer]

So it hasn't be scrapped? That's great news

[TheBlackPaladin]

Scott McNeil at NakaKon 2014 mentions just finishing Kai in Canada at 45:18 and getting the role of Piccolo at 49:00. The way he phrases it makes it sound like they only finished it recently.

Here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc4rQwX4Vfw

Hahaha...

"He has no genitalia."

And an element of DBZ Abridged has now officially been acknowledged by one of the voice actors as being canon.

Also, interesting note...

"We just finished up Kai in Canada, although.....nahI'mnotgonnagetintothat."

I admit, I'm very curious as to what he was going to say. Based on the wording and his tone, I'm guessing that he was either going to talk about being brought back in to dub the Buu arc, or cutting himself off before he gets in any trouble with producers who asked him to stick to his NDA. I get the impression based on how he's talked about Kai before that one of the producers (from IPProductions, I take it?) must have gotten upset with him about revealing what he has.

[NitroEX]

Scott McNeil, the saviour and christ of this dub brings us hope once more

[Fizzer]

Hahaha...

"He has no genitalia."

And an element of DBZ Abridged has now officially been acknowledged by one of the voice actors as being canon.

Well, a Namekian's reproductive organs are somewhere inside their torsos, so why would they also have a random penis/mangina that they have no use for?

The thing where a characters' crotch-area clothing always remains in-tact does happen to Piccolo, but I guess that's just because it would still look kinda weird if he was naked

[Bullza]

Ocean dub of DB Kai?....So utterly pointless.

[Ajay]

Ocean dub of DB Kai?....So utterly pointless.

Care to elaborate on that?

Some users, like myself, hold that initial dub in a much higher regard that anything that followed it.

[Blade]

Ocean dub of DB Kai?....So utterly pointless.

Care to elaborate on that?

Some users, like myself, hold that initial dub in a much higher regard that anything that followed it.

I don't think he's criticising the artistic merit behind the idea or the credentials of the people involved, but instead questioning the need for a second English language dub.

Or at least, I think so.

[Ajay]

Ocean dub of DB Kai?....So utterly pointless.

Care to elaborate on that?

Some users, like myself, hold that initial dub in a much higher regard that anything that followed it.

I don't think he's criticising the artistic merit behind the idea or the credentials of the people involved, but instead questioning the need for a second English language dub.

Or at least, I think so.

Mmm, my reply is still relevant either way. There's a large amount of people who really enjoy Ocean's cast and would like to see them give it another shot with an accurate script. (hopefully)

[Blade]

Mmm, my reply is still relevant either way. There's a large amount of people who really enjoy Ocean's cast and would like to see them give it another shot with an accurate script. (hopefully)

How does that address the need for it? We've already got an accurate English dub.

[Ajay]

Mmm, my reply is still relevant either way. There's a large amount of people who really enjoy Ocean's cast and would like to see them give it another shot with an accurate script. (hopefully)

How does that address the need for it? We've already got an accurate English dub.

Because not everybody considers the portrayals of characters in that dub as perfectly accurate.

[dbboxkaifan]

How does that address the need for it? We've already got an accurate English dub.

An accurate dub doesn't always mean it's better, let's say Big Green Dub / Speedy Dub was 100% accurate would it be superior to FUNimation's Dragon Ball Kai dub? No. You've also have to think of the voice acting (not everyone likes Schemmel for Goku, Sabat for Vegeta or Colleen for Gohan).

I'm hoping for Ocean Dub Kai they've hired someone who can resemble Masako/Kelamis or even Kelamis himself as he nailed it on the DBZ Films 1-3.

By the way, on the Big Green Dub's Goku is called "Kakarroto" on Movie #8 which makes it more accurate than FUNimation in this regard but overall it's one big comedic dub film.

[Blade]

Mmm, my reply is still relevant either way. There's a large amount of people who really enjoy Ocean's cast and would like to see them give it another shot with an accurate script. (hopefully)

How does that address the need for it? We've already got an accurate English dub.

Because not everybody considers the portrayals of characters in that dub as perfectly accurate.

That would represent a want from a minority of fans, but not a need. Who would this new dub be for? Where would it be aired? How would they monetise it? Funimation has sold their dub to practically every English-speaking territory, and even the ones where it hasn't aired on TV, the home release is available. You can bet for sure that Funimation's distribution licenses are exclusive, there's simply no room or scope for this Ocean-produced Dub to get a slice of the action. Keep in mind that the Westwood dub of Z has never even seen a home release - which if the same stands for Kai, which is likely, that's probably the largest potential revenue stream for it immediately scrubbed out.

Again, not questioning the artistic merit behind it, I liked the original Ocean Dub too and would like to see their take on Kai - but as a business venture it seems thoroughly pointless. The Westwood dub of Z had an audience, there was a genuine cause and demand to warrant production. But for Kai? And this late in the game? It makes no sense.

[dbboxkaifan]

In UK there's no home release and despite that it has aired on some TV channel I've not met a person who has seen it, except for those in this forum.

It would've helped spreading the popularity had they made this TV channel available as a TV App on PlayStation and Xbox (no paywall like iBBC Player + Sky Player's Sky News is free) due to having such feature.

[Ajay]

Ah, okay, I see what you're getting at. I guess it begs the question of; does Funimation have any part in this dub and, who's financing this?

If it were independent of FUNi then perhaps they're trying to sell it to networks at a cheaper price to undercut FUNi. If FUNi are involved then maybe they're trying to cash in on the large Ocean/Westwood fanbase in the UK and Canada. Super kiddy-friendly for very young focused TV channels and then uncut for the home release so fans like us can get their fix.

I think the need is certainly there. You only have to look through this forum, YouTube and any other DBZ fansite to find a number of Ocean fans. Considering we had no home release outside of Rock The Dragon (which was US only), there's certainly a demand.

[Blade]

In UK there's no home release and despite that it has aired on some TV channel I've not met a person who has seen it, except for those in this forum.

It would've helped spreading the popularity had they made this TV channel available as a TV App on PlayStation and Xbox (no paywall like iBBC Player + Sky Player's Sky News is free) due to having such feature.

No home release yet. Manga UK have only recently started distributing Funimation's products. We've just had the second Green Brick, rounding off GT, with Dragonball already schedualled to follow. You can bet that Kai will be coming next.

And whilst the network that Kai airs on is perhaps not accessible to everyone in the UK, that doesn't mean that they've been able to license it from Funimation for any less money than any other network would have - it's just simply that everyone else must have passed on it, or KIX outbid them.