I don't think that the original creator of SS5 can sue Sueisha & Bandai Namco for using his fan design.Hellspawn28 wrote:They can't use the silver SSj5 form since it's not his original creation and the original creator of that form is unknown.
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James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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That's ridiculous. He was using their work to begin with.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I don't think that the original creator of SS5 can sue Sueisha & Bandai Namco for using his fan design.Hellspawn28 wrote:They can't use the silver SSj5 form since it's not his original creation and the original creator of that form is unknown.
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We supposedly know who created the silver form and we also know that it apparently wasn't supposed to even be Goku, but an original character named Tablos that's wasn't even transformed. That said, if they literally just took what we know as the "AF SS5 Goku" that Toyble has been using, the original creator would be completely within their rights to take legal action because, being an OC, the character never belonged to them in the first place.
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Exactly.DNA wrote:That's ridiculous. He was using their work to begin with.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I don't think that the original creator of SS5 can sue Sueisha & Bandai Namco for using his fan design.Hellspawn28 wrote:They can't use the silver SSj5 form since it's not his original creation and the original creator of that form is unknown.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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If they go the SS5 route, they could very well use the original design for the SS god before Toriyama changed it.
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Ew, with the cape 'n all that jazz? Nah I'll pass.Darknat wrote:If they go the SS5 route, they could very well use the original design for the SS god before Toriyama changed it.
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Only reason I would accept that, is to actually see what the thing looked like since is seems we'll never get that concept art of for lizard!Beerus and buff!Godku. 
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I demand a link now!!goku the krump dancer wrote:Ew, with the cape 'n all that jazz? Nah I'll pass.Darknat wrote:If they go the SS5 route, they could very well use the original design for the SS god before Toriyama changed it.
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Sadly, we only have a description of it.xmysticgohanx wrote:I demand a link now!!goku the krump dancer wrote:Ew, with the cape 'n all that jazz? Nah I'll pass.Darknat wrote:If they go the SS5 route, they could very well use the original design for the SS god before Toriyama changed it.
Source wrote:I handled the roughs for Super Saiyan God. It was “a being that surpasses everything” so I drew a character more built than Super Saiyan, with a cape, but then illustrations with a completely different feel came back from Toriyama-sensei…. It was too different from my own internal image, so I tried suggesting the more sturdily-drawn character one more time, and then Sensei told me that it really was all wrong. (laughs)
— Tadayoshi Yamamuro, OKStars IntervewThe setting this time is after the “Buu arc”, but between when we did the “Buu arc” in the anime and now, Toriyama-sensei‘s [artistic] touch has changed, don’t you think? I thought about which of those I should make it closer to. As for “Super Saiyan God”, the design I came out with at first was completely different. It was more muscular, and the hairstyle was about in-between “Super Saiyan 3″ and “[Super Saiyan] 4″. But Sensei‘s [mental] image was the sense that it wouldn’t look strong at first glance, so it gained its present form.
— Tadayoshi Yamamuro, Battle of Gods Theatrical Program[Super Saiyan] God’s appearing was set from the very start of production. There’s a line in the movie, too, but even I thought, “‘God’ is an exaggeration…”. (laughs) As for the design, I made it by taking Super Saiyan, which I’d made flashy up through “3″, and paring it down to the absolute limit.
— Akira Toriyama, Super Long Interview!! Please Tell Us, Akira Toriyama-sensei!!Once, along the way, I had the confirmation, “When he transforms, would it be all right to make him a little slimmer?” This is true of the original manga as well, but with each successive transformation, the characters get pretty buff. So this time, I felt that I wanted to make the transformation slim. So that’s why Super Saiyan God, which first appears this time, has a slim design.
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James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Yeah I meant to mention that... It'll be cool as a fun alternate costume for Godku and Beerus ( for the soul sake of curiosity) but that's about it.TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Only reason I would accept that, is to actually see what the thing looked like since is seems we'll never get that concept art of for lizard!Beerus and buff!Godku.
Come to think of it, whenever I think of "Lizard" Beerus I can't help but image that Alligator guy from Team Chaotix from Sonic Heroes lol.
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I picture Randall from Monsters Inc when I think of lizard!Beerus. I would like to see the original character design for Beerus.
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I think of Reptile's design from MK4 when I think of Beerus lizard form.
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A new artwork shows that Note does still have eyebrow hair while in SS3. Check it out here: http://www.carddass.com/dbh/mission/
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Just proves they have no idea what they are doing with pretty much anything when it comes to minor details, as they constantly lack consistency among their own material.
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Indeed. :/TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Just proves they have no idea what they are doing with pretty much anything when it comes to minor details, as they constantly lack consistency among their own material.
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WTF!? That's so stupid... No one will be able to tell if she's SSj1 or 3. For all we know she could just grow her hair out, turn SSj1, and lie about being a SSj3 at this point.
Don't care how fugly she'd be. The caveman eyebrows should have stuck with the chicks as well.
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At SS1-2 the female hair is always points up so there is at least a difference. Note's SS3 hair flows downward and is a bit past her waste so it's not like they need the cavemen eyebrow look. From this we can conclude if they decide to give the Saiyan avatars the SS4 transformation later on than we can expect the female SS4 to share at least one trait that the male SS4 have(whether they will have fur on their bodies or not).hulkty wrote:WTF!? That's so stupid... No one will be able to tell if she's SSj1 or 3. For all we know she could just grow her hair out, turn SSj1, and lie about being a SSj3 at this point.
Don't care how fugly she'd be. The caveman eyebrows should have stuck with the chicks as well.
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Dunno if anyone has considered this, but is it possible her eyebrows are actually more make-up than hair?
I mean, a lot of girls do that, right? Unless turning Super Saiyan 3 is a good makeup remover, too, it'd make sense why they'd still be there.
I mean, a lot of girls do that, right? Unless turning Super Saiyan 3 is a good makeup remover, too, it'd make sense why they'd still be there.
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Oh yeah. Not much of an update, but cards from the recent tournament thing they are holding were released online in the promo list. It's just a regular Tenshinhan card, but he now has a DB era costume, like Yamcha:


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And chiaotzu also got a DB era costume.TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Oh yeah. Not much of an update, but cards from the recent tournament thing they are holding were released online in the promo list. It's just a regular Tenshinhan card, but he now has a DB era costume, like Yamcha:
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