How strong is Base Vegetto?

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Re: How strong is Base Vegetto?

Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri Mar 28, 2014 6:32 pm

That doesn't make any sense. He'd have to know their entire history to make that deduction. He has no idea who Vegeta is.
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Re: How strong is Base Vegetto?

Post by Cetra » Fri Mar 28, 2014 6:34 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:That doesn't make any sense. He'd have to know their entire history to make that deduction. He has no idea who Vegeta is.
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Re: How strong is Base Vegetto?

Post by xmysticgohanx » Fri Mar 28, 2014 7:21 pm

Cetra wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:Actually, it pretty much HAS to be referring to them being rivals in power, because Old Kai doesn't know Vegeta's personality.
Old Kai can see whatever he wants (that perv) as we know so he can watch them. He watched them after the fusion and probably also during their argument. Also Kaioshins can read minds, so probably he knows from Kibitoshin (or he told him) or whatever. Many possibilities are given.
What makes you think he did?

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Re: How strong is Base Vegetto?

Post by OWmyDragonBallz » Fri Mar 28, 2014 8:38 pm

As strong as the anime portrays him. Elder Kaioshin even said that potara is just that extreme.
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Re: How strong is Base Vegetto?

Post by Gogeta8001 » Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:32 pm

IDK where anyone gets the idea of Vegito being infinity. That would make him a god and capable of destroying anything with a mere punch.

Depending on whether or not you believe in Frieza > Base Saiyans, Base Vegito could range from SSJ2 Gotenks to equaling Buuhan himself.
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Re: How strong is Base Vegetto?

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:51 pm

Vegito never fought in base form in the manga. He felt it necessary to go to SSJ1 to fight Buuhan. So the real answer is weaker than Buuhan.
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Re: How strong is Base Vegetto?

Post by Drayenko » Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:53 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:Vegito never fought in base form in the manga. He felt it necessary to go to SSJ1 to fight Buuhan. So the real answer is weaker than Buuhan.
This is not true, because Vegetto himself is surprised by how powerful he is. Which means, he wasn't sure of his own power, and going SSJ by this point is just not hard at all, so why not do it anyways.
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Re: How strong is Base Vegetto?

Post by Cetra » Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:52 am

xmysticgohanx wrote: What makes you think he did?
I didn't say he did, I said he can and since he knows a bit about Vegeta it is a possible explanation.
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Re: How strong is Base Vegetto?

Post by hleV » Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:59 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:Vegito never fought in base form in the manga. He felt it necessary to go to SSJ1 to fight Buuhan. So the real answer is weaker than Buuhan.
He couldn't feel it necessary to go SS because he didn't realize his own strength until later.
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Re: How strong is Base Vegetto?

Post by dbzfan7 » Sun Mar 30, 2014 1:51 am

Stronger than Bootenks but weaker than Boohan. The Elder Kaioshin said if Goku and Gohan used it they wouldn't need SSJ to beat Bootenks. I think Goku and Vegeta make a better fusion pair with equal power levels, mind set, and covering over each other's faults. So I'd say Vegetto is stronger than base Gokan too.
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