Plothole in Dragonball Minus

[blackenfist]

Now that Castaway Child of Destiny has come out I think I might have found a few plotholes with it. Now of course this only applies if you consider this chapter to be canon.
The first thing might not be really a plothole but something that just didn't make since to me. Gine suggested to bardock for both of the them to leave the planet however bardock says they would be found by scouters if they attempted. This is still
however a ship moving off the planet and with frieeza's spaceship hovering above, I hardly think it would be obscure for a pod the be leaving the planet.

On to the more serious plothole. In the manga Radiz states that the reason why goku was sent to earth was to eliminate all life on earth so they could sell the planet. Taking this chapter into account this was obviously not the case. So the question is why did Radiz say what he said in the manga? People could say that he was just lying but what motive would he have for lying. More importantly why would Radiz not tell goku the truth. I don't see how telling the truth could hurt his motives for trying to recruit his brother.

The biggest plothole of all is How did Radiz even find goku in the first place? In the chapter they sent goku off in secret and presumably the only people that would know about it are Bardock, Gine and Possibly Radiz if they told him before they died with planet vegeta's destruction. Obviously if Bardock and Gine never had the chance to tell Radiz this would only make the Plothole even bigger but lets just assume that they did tell him. Their is still the issue of how radiz found goku on earth in the first place. It seems that the way Bardock and Gine sent goku off the planet was pretty aimlessly. As if even they wouldn't know where he would end up. I can already see people saying that their could have been a tracking device on goku's pod but the pod was stolen plus the saiyans are not the only race that use those pods. So even if their were tracking devices how would radiz be able to distinguish his brothers stolen pod from everyone elses.

I actually find this quite funny because these plotholes would not work with the Bardock The Father of Goku TV special. In the special goku was being sent on a mission like was originally stated in the manga to wipe life out and because it was a mission their are records about it as evidenced by the doctor looking up what planet goku was going to. So it wasn't a secret. So Radiz could have just looked up the records of who was sent to what planet for potential sale to find goku. Of course its still not canon.

Well anyway those are my thoughts. The reason I posted this is hopefully you guys can see if I might have overlooked anything or I am completely in the wrong here. I hope to hear your responses.

[B]

There is a month between when Goku is sent to the Earth and Freeza actually blows Vegeta up, according to Minus. Plenty of time for Raditz to be alerted. The easiest answer is that Raditz said that because that is typically what happens. It's possible he knew where Goku was sent without being told the actual reason.

Their is still the issue of how radiz found goku on earth in the first place. It seems that the way Bardock and Gine sent goku off the planet was pretty aimlessly. As if even they wouldn't know where he would end up.

I'm not entirely sure what you're asking, but Gine and Bardock sent Goku to Earth, intentionally, because they knew there wouldn't be anything on the planet he couldn't handle. How did Raditz find Earth? The way anybody finds any planet in this series.

[sekzee]

Now that Castaway Child of Destiny has come out I think I might have found a few plotholes with it. Now of course this only applies if you consider this chapter to be canon.
The first thing might not be really a plothole but something that just didn't make since to me. Gine suggested to bardock for both of the them to leave the planet however bardock says they would be found by scouters if they attempted. This is still
however a ship moving off the planet and with frieeza's spaceship hovering above, I hardly think it would be obscure for a pod the be leaving the planet.

Since Kakarot/Goku is a child, his PL is probably too low to be detected. Please do note that most beings are unable to suppress their power and trick the scouters, so Bardock and Gine would likely be discovered.

On to the more serious plothole. In the manga Radiz states that the reason why goku was sent to earth was to eliminate all life on earth so they could sell the planet. Taking this chapter into account this was obviously not the case. So the question is why did Radiz say what he said in the manga? People could say that he was just lying but what motive would he have for lying. More importantly why would Radiz not tell goku the truth. I don't see how telling the truth could hurt his motives for trying to recruit his brother.

It is entirely possible Raditz did not return to Planet Vegeta (and it is heavily implied), so Bardock would have never communicated the real reason for Kakarot's departure. Bardock or Gine would be unable to relay their suspicions to Vegeta or Raditz without having Frieza or his men intercept the communications.

The biggest plothole of all is How did Radiz even find goku in the first place? In the chapter they sent goku off in secret and presumably the only people that would know about it are Bardock, Gine and Possibly Radiz if they told him before they died with planet vegeta's destruction. Obviously if Bardock and Gine never had the chance to tell Radiz this would only make the Plothole even bigger but lets just assume that they did tell him. Their is still the issue of how radiz found goku on earth in the first place. It seems that the way Bardock and Gine sent goku off the planet was pretty aimlessly. As if even they wouldn't know where he would end up. I can already see people saying that their could have been a tracking device on goku's pod but the pod was stolen plus the saiyans are not the only race that use those pods. So even if their were tracking devices how would radiz be able to distinguish his brothers stolen pod from everyone elses.

It is possible Kakarot's pod releases a signal that can be picked up from a certain range. It did take Raditz over a decade to locate Kakarot.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

Now that Castaway Child of Destiny has come out I think I might have found a few plotholes with it. Now of course this only applies if you consider this chapter to be canon..

I don't like the idea that changed the purpose of what sent Goku to Earth, according to this Bardock and Gine were somewhat loving parents and that Bardock knew Freeza was going to betray them without his psychic power and intended to sent Goku away to have a better life in safety as opposed to him constantly retold he was sent to a random weak planet to kill the inhabitence leaving Earth as a coincidence. Then theres the controversy over Goku's age and him having Saiyan armour in this rendition.

[sekzee]

It makes more sense than sending a nude infant to fend for himself.

[Legendary Saiya-Jin]

I don't like the idea that changed the purpose of what sent Goku to Earth, according to this Bardock and Gine were somewhat loving parents and that Bardock knew Freeza was going to betray them without his psychic power and intended to sent Goku away to have a better life in safety as opposed to him constantly retold he was sent to a random weak planet to kill the inhabitence leaving Earth as a coincidence. Then theres the controversy over Goku's age and him having Saiyan armour in this rendition.

I'm not sure it actually erases the psychic side-story entirely and Bardock was just telling Gine that it was just a feeling just to avoid sounding crazy with having visions, but I always thought it was kind of silly to me. And I think Kakarot's age makes a lot of sense. It also makes sense that Saiyans weren't just genetically inclined to commit planetary genocide, but were probably raised for a few years at least for the indoctrination. What would have been the point of Goku losing his memory if the evil nature was mostly genetic?

[hleV]

I think it was Raditz and Vegeta's own belief that Goku was sent to Earth purely to conquer it for it to be sold later on. I believe they also said that "weak Saiyan children like Goku are sent to planets like this", which doesn't seem to be the case considering Goku was the only living Saiyan besides Raditz, Nappa and Vegeta, making Goku the only case like that.

[penguintruth]

No... plotholes in Minus? Seriously? What a staggering revelation.

Akira Toriyama just isn't as familiar with his own work as he used to be. Almost nothing in Minus gels with the 42 volumes of the original DB manga, aside from Saiyans being a nasty alien race and Freeza being a thing.

I generally operate in DB fandom by Rule of 42 (not to be mistaken with Rule 34 or The Answer To Life, The Universe, and Everything), which is to say, as far as canonicity, if it isn't in the original 42 volumes of the manga, IT NEVER HAPPENED.

Garlic Junior? NEVER HAPPENED. Bardock? NEVER HAPPENED. Bardock the Super Saiyan? NEVER HAPPENED. Battle of Gods? NEVER HAPPENED, BUT MAYBE KIND OF IF YOU SQUINT.

I don't want to hear about Power Level numbers past Freeza's death, don't care about Gogeta, GT can GT-FO, and anything even Toriyama himself writes from now on is suspect. Gine doesn't exist, Tarble is a figment of your imagination, and Uub never rode a candy cloud.

I'm putting Minus in the same crate as the Star Wars prequels, the third Tenchi Muyo OVA, Bubblegum Crash, and most of my middle and high school years, stamping them with "DENIAL", and shipping them off to be looked at by top men.

TOP. MEN.

[Blade]

aside from Saiyans being a nasty alien race

Even that's a little debatable.

[hleV]

Garlic Junior? NEVER HAPPENED. Bardock? NEVER HAPPENED. Bardock the Super Saiyan? NEVER HAPPENED. Battle of Gods? NEVER HAPPENED, BUT MAYBE KIND OF IF YOU SQUINT.

I don't want to hear about Power Level numbers past Freeza's death, don't care about Gogeta, GT can GT-FO, and anything even Toriyama himself writes from now on is suspect. Gine doesn't exist, Tarble is a figment of your imagination, and Uub never rode a candy cloud.

Bardock was in Freeza's flashback. Anyway regarding Kanzenban not happening, essentially what you're saying is that if an author made an error, then fixed it in a re-relase of his work, that error STILL DEFINITELY HAPPENED. I can not, and never will agree with such logic.

[Blade]

Garlic Junior? NEVER HAPPENED. Bardock? NEVER HAPPENED. Bardock the Super Saiyan? NEVER HAPPENED. Battle of Gods? NEVER HAPPENED, BUT MAYBE KIND OF IF YOU SQUINT.

I don't want to hear about Power Level numbers past Freeza's death, don't care about Gogeta, GT can GT-FO, and anything even Toriyama himself writes from now on is suspect. Gine doesn't exist, Tarble is a figment of your imagination, and Uub never rode a candy cloud.

Bardock was in Freeza's flashback. Anyway regarding Kanzenban not happening, essentially what you're saying is that if an author made an error, then fixed it in a re-relase of his work, that error STILL DEFINITELY HAPPENED. I can not, and never will agree with such logic.

I think he was specifically referring to the Anime special. Whilst Bardock is included in the manga, it doesn't necessarily mean anything more than that the character exists in Toriyama's estimations as opposed to being a direct affirmation of the events in the special.

[penguintruth]

I would certainly like to include the Bardock TV special, but it's been poisoned by Episode of Bardock. And once you start making exceptions...

[Kid Buu]

I like the special too.

For EoB, well just see my signature.

[Marco Polo]

Now that Castaway Child of Destiny has come out I think I might have found a few plotholes with it. Now of course this only applies if you consider this chapter to be canon.
The first thing might not be really a plothole but something that just didn't make since to me. Gine suggested to bardock for both of the them to leave the planet however bardock says they would be found by scouters if they attempted. This is still
however a ship moving off the planet and with frieeza's spaceship hovering above, I hardly think it would be obscure for a pod the be leaving the planet.

Also related to this: even the Galactic King noticed Kakarot's spacepod. So it seems to be a plothole that Freeza didn't notice it.

On to the more serious plothole. In the manga Radiz states that the reason why goku was sent to earth was to eliminate all life on earth so they could sell the planet. Taking this chapter into account this was obviously not the case. So the question is why did Radiz say what he said in the manga? People could say that he was just lying but what motive would he have for lying. More importantly why would Radiz not tell goku the truth. I don't see how telling the truth could hurt his motives for trying to recruit his brother.

It's clearly stated in DB- that Bardock and Gine told Raditz about it (sending Kakarot away). However, how what exactly did they tell him is anyone's guess. It's possible that they didn't tell him the real reason because they told him via the Scouters and it's been established that Freeza can hear what people say through those.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Also related to this: even the Galactic King noticed Kakarot's spacepod. So it seems to be a plothole that Freeza didn't notice it.

Just because someone noticed it doesn't mean that everyone must notice it.

[FoolsGil]

Finally googled Dragonball Minus,First off, did Toryama just finish watching Man of Steel? If Goku being sent off by his father isn't a reference I don't know what is.

As for the plotholes, I wouldn't be surprised if they start to be filled over the next few years. I don't think Toryama is done drawing dragonball specials.

[VegettoEX]

Finally googled Dragonball Minus

W-... why would you need to do that...?!

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2014/03/24/ja ... all-minus/
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2014/03/31/vi ... j-2014-19/
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2014/04/06/dr ... -released/
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2014/04/07/dr ... mentation/

[Kamiccolo9]

Finally googled Dragonball Minus

W-... why would you need to do that...?!

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2014/03/24/ja ... all-minus/
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2014/03/31/vi ... j-2014-19/
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2014/04/06/dr ... -released/
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2014/04/07/dr ... mentation/

There's a site too?!?!


YES! I said it!

[FoolsGil]

Finally googled Dragonball Minus

W-... why would you need to do that...?!

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2014/03/24/ja ... all-minus/
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2014/03/31/vi ... j-2014-19/
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2014/04/06/dr ... -released/
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2014/04/07/dr ... mentation/

Oh! there was articles ya'll already done about Minus. Now I just feel silly.

[Hellspawn28]

The Bardock TV special was over 20 years ago. Either AT does not remember it very well or AT choose to do with his own thing with the character. He had nothing to do with the Bardock TV special other then working on character designs. I for once, rather have AT do his own thing then adapt on what Toei already did.