The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Post by Hades » Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:05 pm

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Post by mister yummy » Thu Apr 10, 2014 2:20 pm

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SSJ2 Future Gohan vs Future Android 17

Gohan gets a senzu bean so he can grow his arm back.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:23 pm

kuartus4 wrote:SSJ2 Future Gohan vs Future Android 17

Gohan gets a senzu bean so he can grow his arm back.
Obviously Ssj2 Gohan. He won't need his right (?) Arm
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:01 pm

Saiyan saga Piccolo fused with Kami vs. Oozaru Vegeta.

So what if Kami in the Saiyan saga knew about the Namek fusion and Piccolo agree to fuse with him. Would Piccolo be strong enough to beat Vegeta as a Oozaru?
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Post by TheGmGoken » Fri Apr 11, 2014 4:11 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Saiyan saga Piccolo fused with Kami vs. Oozaru Vegeta.

So what if Kami in the Saiyan saga knew about the Namek fusion and Piccolo agree to fuse with him. Would Piccolo be strong enough to beat Vegeta as a Oozaru?
Didn't Elder say that Piccolo fused with Kami would have not died and Elder knew about SSJ
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Post by Kid Buu » Fri Apr 11, 2014 5:13 pm

Piccolo Daimao Vs Goku - No Tenshinhan/Kinto interference.

I re-read this fight and Goku had help form both of those prior to Piccolo using Tenshinhan as a hostage. What do you guys think?
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Post by Eternal Super Saiyan » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:21 pm

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Zombie wrote:Only AT comments that Bardock never reached Elite (4,000) status.
According to Vegeta, neither did Goku.
Goku wasn't promoted because the Saiyans were destroyed at that point. But Toriyama was asked about Bardock's battle power, and his answer was that he wasn't a mid-class warrior, but he was one of the strongest low-class warriors. So, Bardock is weaker than Nappa.
Perhaps before his movie he may be low class, but keep in mind he was in a period of constant change in battle power (one of the doctors stating he keeps coming back half dead and starting the next mission a lot stronger). Didn't Bardock also take over planets that Zarbon/Dodoria said "couldn't be taken by a batch of low-level saiyans"?

He kept injuring himself to the point that maybe he accessed minor Zenkai's? I find that very possible.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Apr 12, 2014 1:04 am

Eternal Super Saiyan wrote:Perhaps before his movie he may be low class, but keep in mind he was in a period of constant change in battle power (one of the doctors stating he keeps coming back half dead and starting the next mission a lot stronger). Didn't Bardock also take over planets that Zarbon/Dodoria said "couldn't be taken by a batch of low-level saiyans"?

He kept injuring himself to the point that maybe he accessed minor Zenkai's? I find that very possible.
I wasn't talking about TV Special Bardock, I was talking about manga Bardock.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Post by xmysticgohanx » Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:30 pm

Sick SSJ Goku vs 100% Freeza.

Strongest DB character Videl can defeat?

Kibitokai vs FP Cell (or SPC if it's a stomp).

FPSSJ Goku vs ASSJ Goku.

USSJ Gohan vs SSJ2 Gohan if speed was equal.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:36 pm

Cyborg Freeza (base/70%) vs Freeza (buff/100%)

Cyborg Freeza (base/70%) vs King Cold
xmysticgohanx wrote:Sick SSJ Goku vs 100% Freeza.

Strongest DB character Videl can defeat?

Kibitokai vs FP Cell (or SPC if it's a stomp).

FPSSJ Goku vs ASSJ Goku.

USSJ Gohan vs SSJ2 Gohan if speed was equal.
Freeza, barley. 19 could take numerous hits from sick Goku, and 19 seemed rather weak.

Majin Spopovich, one that still had the extra power but not the creepy zombie-like attributes like surviving a broken neck.

They're about equal, but Kibitoshin eventually pulls through.

I don't know if he even can use Grade II anymore.

I have them both at x100, but IMO, Grade 3 boosts power and nothing else. The most noticeable aspect that it is lacking in is speed, but I don't think it boosts durability either. It also has horrible energy drain issues. So SS2 Gohan easily wins.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Apr 13, 2014 2:31 am

xmysticgohanx wrote:Sick SSJ Goku vs 100% Freeza.
Freeza was stronger than #19 IMO, so he wins.

Kibitokai vs FP Cell (or SPC if it's a stomp).
Kibitoshin beats SP Cell, but not easily.
FPSSJ Goku vs ASSJ Goku.
SSG2 Goku get tired over time, so SSFP eventually wins.
USSJ Gohan vs SSJ2 Gohan if speed was equal.
SS2 Gohan wins.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Sun Apr 13, 2014 4:10 am

Super Buu (Janemba, Cell, and Cooler absorbed), huh? What a random combination. He's not going to be anywhere near Buutenks or Buuhan, so Vegetto still stomps.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
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Post by Kid Buu » Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:40 am

Yamcha, Tenshinhan, Chaozu Vs Piccolo; if that filler fight continued.

Piccolo can't remove his weighted clothing.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Apr 13, 2014 9:44 am

Kid Buu wrote:Yamcha, Tenshinhan, Chaozu Vs Piccolo; if that filler fight continued.

Piccolo can't remove his weighted clothing.
Honestly see Piccolo winning with humans getting lucky shots. Piccolo was kicking their asses.
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Post by Hugo Boss » Sun Apr 13, 2014 1:06 pm

BoG Goku (regular form) vs King Cold
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Post by Blade » Sun Apr 13, 2014 2:04 pm

Hugo Boss wrote:BoG Goku (regular form) vs King Cold
Probably King Cold.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sun Apr 13, 2014 2:48 pm

Hugo Boss wrote:BoG Goku (regular form) vs King Cold
Seeing as Goku's base pl is still below 120 Million (100% Final Form Freeza) and coupling that with Beerus's comment that Goku would still require Super Saiyan to beat Freeza and the fact Goku himself along with Kaio don't deny it show that like with Freeza, Goku would need at least SSJ1 to defeat Cold.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Sun Apr 13, 2014 2:52 pm

Cold is weaker than Freeza though.

I think Cold is still slightly stronger, but Goku is skilled enough to make up for it and defeat Cold.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
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