Dragon Ball Z "Seasons" On Blu-ray: News & Discussion

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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Seasons" On Blu-ray: News & Discussion

Post by Ajay » Sun Apr 13, 2014 12:38 pm

A lot of people keep asking if these sets are worth buying or not so I thought I'd give my honest overview of this release.

Those of you who know the history behind these releases can just skip down to the review section.

It's essentially a proper write up of everything I've posted in this thread but I hope this proves useful!
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun Apr 13, 2014 2:19 pm

AjayLikesGaming wrote:A lot of people keep asking if these sets are worth buying or not so I thought I'd give my honest overview of this release.

Those of you who know the history behind these releases can just skip down to the review section.

It's essentially a proper write up of everything I've posted in this thread but I hope this proves useful!
Great review this is.

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And then afterwards there's a review of Dragon Ball Kai Episode 01 *sigh* at that picture quality but I'm hoping the Blu-ray release will be better although I'm not getting my hopes up at all considering it'll be mostly the same.. probably. :?
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Post by supersaiyan3 » Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:27 pm

As much as I wanted to hate this release, I'm starting to like it. I think this is how Kai should've looked--it's way better than poorly re-animated scenese and soft colors. The widescreen aspect of it is love-hate. I love how gorgeous it looks on my 65" TV, but it still feels overly-cramped half the time. The only time I don't like the digital pans is when they do it in the middle of a camera pan because that's when you can see the frames jump a little. I'll probably find myself watching these instead of my Dragon Box from now on. Even if the blu-rays aren't perfect, they're better than compressed 480p quality.

And it has the Faulconer score :)

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Post by samuraix123 » Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:40 pm

supersaiyan3 wrote:As much as I wanted to hate this release, I'm starting to like it. I think this is how Kai should've looked--it's way better than poorly re-animated scenese and soft colors. The widescreen aspect of it is love-hate. I love how gorgeous it looks on my 65" TV, but it still feels overly-cramped half the time. The only time I don't like the digital pans is when they do it in the middle of a camera pan because that's when you can see the frames jump a little. I'll probably find myself watching these instead of my Dragon Box from now on. Even if the blu-rays aren't perfect, they're better than compressed 480p quality.

And it has the Faulconer score :)
Yeah I really like this release a-lot as well. but it won't always be the way I watch the series because I have so many different releases like the Dragon-Boxes,Level Sets and such but I do like this release. :)
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Post by JEFFMAN219 » Sun Apr 13, 2014 4:18 pm

Heres a review of the new season 3 blu ray

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHBmKh1 ... R3bNlOzcIg

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Post by Metalwario64 » Sun Apr 13, 2014 4:42 pm

JEFFMAN219 wrote:Heres a review of the new season 3 blu ray

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHBmKh1 ... R3bNlOzcIg
Ay ay ay... "Of course it's better than the Dragon Boxes. C'mon guys, it's in HD, and the Dragon Boxes are not in HD."

This guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun Apr 13, 2014 4:50 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:
JEFFMAN219 wrote:Heres a review of the new season 3 blu ray

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHBmKh1 ... R3bNlOzcIg
Ay ay ay... "Of course it's better than the Dragon Boxes. C'mon guys, it's in HD, and the Dragon Boxes are not in HD."

This guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
Two words that describe his review in a nutshell: Amazing and epic.

It's a serviceable release, that's it.
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Post by samuraix123 » Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:11 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:
JEFFMAN219 wrote:Heres a review of the new season 3 blu ray

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHBmKh1 ... R3bNlOzcIg
Ay ay ay... "Of course it's better than the Dragon Boxes. C'mon guys, it's in HD, and the Dragon Boxes are not in HD."

This guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
Reading your comment about what he said I guess I shouldn't waste my time watching it? :P I love these sets but saying they're better than the Dragon-Boxes(In my opinion is just no. lol)
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Post by qjz123 » Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:17 pm

JEFFMAN219 wrote:Heres a review of the new season 3 blu ray

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHBmKh1 ... R3bNlOzcIg
He used my screenshots and gave me no credit. :thumbdown:
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:25 pm

Dragon Boxes still look better IMO. It's not impossible for a DVD to look better in a Blu-Ray.
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Post by Ajay » Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:46 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Dragon Boxes still look better IMO. It's not impossible for a DVD to look better than a Blu-Ray.
Yup, totally agree. As has been pointed out already; that guy doesn't know the hell he's talking about.
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Post by TheKingOfKamehamehas » Sun Apr 13, 2014 9:23 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Dragon Boxes still look better IMO. It's not impossible for a DVD to look better in a Blu-Ray.
Yep, I personally agree that being Blu-Ray doesn't mean HD. You can still keep the grain intact and not over saturate the colors for Blu-Ray. Look at the Level Sets, they did a really absolute job without screwing it up. This guy doesn't understand. If you need any more info check this review.
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Post by G1Ravage » Sun Apr 13, 2014 9:35 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Larger artwork for S4 & 5
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Post by MarcFBR » Sun Apr 13, 2014 9:38 pm

TheKingOfKamehamehas wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:Dragon Boxes still look better IMO. It's not impossible for a DVD to look better in a Blu-Ray.
Yep, I personally agree that being Blu-Ray doesn't mean HD. You can still keep the grain intact and not over saturate the colors for Blu-Ray. Look at the Level Sets, they did a really absolute job without screwing it up. This guy doesn't understand. If you need any more info check this review.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulY2c5EPdB8
Few things.

The guy should pick his recording locations better, his intro has all kinds of echoing from where he is recording.

He refers to HD as a 'format' (which it isn't.) He gets relatively close, but it'd help if he did a bit more research (at one point he refers to 'tv box format' which... isn't a thing.)

B for effort, as I believe the guy cares, but some research and extra energy would help, as overall it's down to a D and I had to turn it off after a minute or so because he gets so much wrong from a technical perspective while trying to explain the 'technical' to people.

Also... awesome theme song.
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Post by Metalwario64 » Sun Apr 13, 2014 9:50 pm

MarcFBR wrote:Also... awesome theme song.
Yes, I completely agree. :mrgreen:
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Post by eledoremassis02 » Sun Apr 13, 2014 9:51 pm

Seeing TOEI's scan of the footage for Kai, I can't wait to compare it to the equivalent of the Z blu rays from FUNi though I think FUNi would win on color on that one

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Post by dan2026 » Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:03 am

I have to say these Blu-rays seem like garbage.

Look at this comparison between Kai and the new Blu-rays.
Half the footage is lost and its so blurry and washed out.
Funimation fucked up big time.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison.php?id=64189

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Post by JackyBoi99 » Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:09 am

These sets are hardly better than the orange bricks. Better audio and more detail, still really shit though
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Post by Vegard Aune » Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:12 am

dan2026 wrote:I have to say these Blu-rays seem like garbage.

Look at this comparison between Kai and the new Blu-rays.
Half the footage is lost and its so blurry and washed out.
Funimation fucked up big time.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison.php?id=64189
I believe I've mentioned this before, but that is not a fair representation of the two products as a whole. I mean, yeah, the BluRays look like that all the way through, but only three or four episodes of Kai look that sharp. And the only reason those episodes of Kai look that sharp is that, for whatever reason, Toei stored those particular Z-episodes on 35mm film rather than the 16mm film the rest of the show was stored on. FUNi, however, did not get such high quality film-prints for them, so for this particular segment, it was literally impossible for FUNi to give us anything comparable to Kai's quality. The footage they had to work with simply wasn't good enough in general.

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Post by dan2026 » Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:44 am

Fair enough, but these Blu-ray still look the pits.

The grain has been DNRed to hell and left the picture looking frankly a mess.
And whoever decided to crop into widescreen deserves to be shot.

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