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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:50 pm

I think humans can reach above SSj level with enough training. If you have them weaker then Freeza then how they did stop Cell and Buu in their universe.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:54 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I think humans can reach above SSj level with enough training. If you have them weaker then Freeza then how they did stop Cell and Buu in their universe.
By not letting either of them hatch.

If the humans could reach anywhere close to the level of the main base saiyans, and therefore greater than Freeza with kaio-ken, they would have. There's not much else they could do in the alternate universe to get stronger than they did in the main timeline, aside from learning kaio-ken.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Puto » Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:54 pm

By destroying Cell while he's still being grown and preventing Boo from being released in the first place.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by testing223 » Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:09 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
testing223 wrote:Zen Buu probably never saw Tenshinhan use this in his universe!

He's not scared, just a little bit surprised!

Even in regular DBZ, Buu would not have seen Tenshinhan and probably killed him without even bothering to absorb him!
In "regular DBZ," Buu saw Tenshinhan. He saved Dende from Buutenks, and was called a "quite the master" by Buu.
Yeah and then he was killed an hour later!
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Skar » Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:51 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Skar wrote: He might not be considered a god but at least a deity.
Nitpicking, but Dabura can't be a god without being a deity. They are the same thing. So, if you consider him to be a deity, then he is, by default, a god as well.
Sorry that may have been the wrong word to use. I meant "deity" as in an evil god like a demon or devil. Apparently the Kais, Kaioshin, and Makaioshin were all born from the same tree in Other World. The Makaioshin were immune or evil so they didn't the same designation as the others.
Hellspawn28 wrote:I think humans can reach above SSj level with enough training. If you have them weaker then Freeza then how they did stop Cell and Buu in their universe.
In DBM the humans are all weaker than Frieza in base. There was a poster by BK-81 showing all the villains they fought in their universe:
http://bk-81.deviantart.com/art/DBM-Uni ... -169996168

I'm not sure how accurate this is or if it has been confirmed by Salagir. It appears that Dabura was the strongest villain they fought. They may have only killed Babidi and freed Dabura without needing to defeat him. It depends how evil dabura was. He might just thank them and return to the Demon Realm. If he does decided to attack them anyway he would weaker without the Majin power-up.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by RandomGuy96 » Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:00 am

Dabra would still slaughter them effortlessly in straight combat. The Majin power boost is not that big. So either they freed him or sealed him with the Mafuba somehow.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:11 am

They might have killed Dabra with the Kienzan. I don't know how they handle Cell since Cell could still have the cells of Piccolo, Vegeta and Coola. I hear Freeza was killed by Bardock in their universe.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by RandomGuy96 » Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:17 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:They might have killed Dabra with the Kienzan. I don't know how they handle Cell since Cell could still have the cells of Piccolo, Vegeta and Coola. I hear Freeza was killed by Bardock in their universe.
They don't handle Cell. They should just keep him from hatching.

I think it's more likely that Cooler killed him.

Not likely. The Kienzan is ridiculously easy to dodge, Dabra is way faster than them, and even if it connects, there's no guarantee that it wouldn't just break on contact without doing any damage, considering how massively stronger he is than everyone else.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Kingdom Heartless » Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:08 am

I don't understand why people claim [insert species] shouldn't be as strong as Saiyans, when in the series, all the main Saiyans are stronger than Saiyans should be. And Namekians shouldn't be as strong as Piccolo is.

Power ups in Dragon Ball almost always lack logic. If those leaps in logic can be used in giving a cool character more screentime, sure, why not?
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:15 am

RandomGuy96 wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:I think humans can reach above SSj level with enough training. If you have them weaker then Freeza then how they did stop Cell and Buu in their universe.
By not letting either of them hatch.

If the humans could reach anywhere close to the level of the main base saiyans, and therefore greater than Freeza with kaio-ken, they would have. There's not much else they could do in the alternate universe to get stronger than they did in the main timeline, aside from learning kaio-ken.
Yep. Though Yamcha should be stronger than any Super Saiyan that hasn't mastered the form, and maybe he could have gotten some modifications from Bulma to increase his power to any extent the author wishes.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by hulkty » Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:39 am

Krillin and Tien just Solar Flare/Kienzan combo'd everyone and everything that couldn't regenerate. Simple as that... :/

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:01 am

Kingdom Heartless wrote:I don't understand why people claim [insert species] shouldn't be as strong as Saiyans, when in the series, all the main Saiyans are stronger than Saiyans should be. And Namekians shouldn't be as strong as Piccolo is.

Power ups in Dragon Ball almost always lack logic. If those leaps in logic can be used in giving a cool character more screentime, sure, why not?
Humans themselves kinda implied that they couldn't catch up. Piccolo kept up and thus kept training. Also Piccolo power for a Namek makes sense. Nail was 42k. Piccolo was below that regularly but fused with Nail and Kami to become stronger. Then ROSAT happen. Saiyans had zenkai that most other Saiyans didn't get cause they use the moon or DOMINATED their foes.

Though most power comes from plot. So Idc about Ten power in DBMV.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TonyTheTiger » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:57 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:They might have killed Dabra with the Kienzan. I don't know how they handle Cell since Cell could still have the cells of Piccolo, Vegeta and Coola. I hear Freeza was killed by Bardock in their universe.
The only reason Cell exists at all is because Dr. Gero developed a crazy fixation on Goku. Remove Goku from the picture and Cell may not have even been created. Piccolo also may not exist depending on how that whole thing with Pilaf and King Piccolo went down.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:40 pm

It's possible that Kuririn and the others defeat the RR Army. Gero could still have create #16 - #19 and Cell for revenge. Piccolo Daimo did happen in U9 since he is seen on the U9 poster. Elder Kaioshin is free from the Z Sword then they must have fought Buu in U9.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Tzigi » Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:08 pm

Tenshinhan doesn't like rings:
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:13 pm

Ok he done this twice now(wouldn't shock me if he did this in his universe). Ten should be banned from tournaments. Immediately.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Marco Polo » Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:15 pm

Did he destroy the Shenron blow-up thing?

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by FoolsGil » Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:12 pm

I just thought of something. Once you take Rule of Cool out, why did Tenshinhan grow a new set of hands for a Double Kikoho?Couldn't he have amassed the same amount of power he made with that blast with one set of hands?

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Marty Kirra » Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:14 pm

I thought the humans in that universe (Yamcha and Tenshinhan) were actually androids...? Or did I misinterpret something way back when they were first revealed?

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:49 pm

Marty Kirra wrote:I thought the humans in that universe (Yamcha and Tenshinhan) were actually androids...? Or did I misinterpret something way back when they were first revealed?
Yamcha is, he became his universe's #17. From what I remember though, we don't really know if the same thing was done to Tenshinhan, making him #18 or something, it just seemed kind of likely based on the fact that it had happened to Yamcha.
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