The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:13 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:Goku Kaioken X10 vs. Monster Zarbon

If Goku never got hurt badly during his fight with Vegeta and fought Zarbon on Namek. Would Goku win this fight?
He would just use Kaiokenx4 kamehameha to kill Zarbon,

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:34 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:Goku Kaioken X10 vs. Monster Zarbon

If Goku never got hurt badly during his fight with Vegeta and fought Zarbon on Namek. Would Goku win this fight?
That would put Goku at 80 thousand vs Zarbon at 30 thousand-ish. Goku would stomp.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:24 pm

If Goku never got hurt then he would never have much training on Namek's space ship. I think he would be much weaker, but he could still win.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbgtFO » Sun Apr 20, 2014 5:45 pm

Since Pui Pui is often put in the same tier as certain Saiyan Arc characters, due to his 10x gravity boast, I thought he should take on the Saiyan Arc gauntlet:

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Gohan(post training)
Piccolo(post training)
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Goku(post training)
Vegeta
Ozaru Vegeta

How well does he do?

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Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Sun Apr 20, 2014 5:55 pm

I think he clears it with ease.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:02 pm

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:19 pm

dbgtFO wrote:Since Pui Pui is often put in the same tier as certain Saiyan Arc characters, due to his 10x gravity boast, I thought he should take on the Saiyan Arc gauntlet:

Raditz
Gohan(post training)
Piccolo(post training)
Nappa
Goku(post training)
Vegeta
Ozaru Vegeta

How well does he do?
He loses against Oozaru Vegeta, despite being roughly equal to him, IMO. Vegeta's got that crazy durability, and should be able to just overpower Pui Pui with size and strength.
Hellspawn28 wrote:If Goku never got hurt then he would never have much training on Namek's space ship. I think he would be much weaker, but he could still win.
Goku was still at 8 thousand when he fought Vegeta and Nappa though. Even if he didn't improve at all, using a 10 x Kaio Ken would still put him almost 2 and a half times stronger than Monster Zarbon.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DannyDBZfanforever » Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:19 pm

Majin Buu with South kaioshin absorb Vs Ultimate Gohan
Turtles (after eating the fruit) Vs First Form Frieza
Super #13 VS #16
Beerus Vs Omega Sheron
Syn Sheron VS Super Saiyan 2 Vegetto
Omega Sheron Vs SS4 Goku and SSJ 3 Vegetto
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SSj 2 Vegetto Vs Baby Vegeta and Super 17

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Post by AGentlemanSaiyan » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:31 pm

DannyDBZfanforever wrote: Beerus Vs Omega Sheron
Super Mega Debatable, only because we don't know Beers Full Power.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by chaospunishment » Mon Apr 21, 2014 1:36 am

DannyDBZfanforever wrote:Majin Buu with South kaioshin absorb Vs Ultimate Gohan
Turtles (after eating the fruit) Vs First Form Freeza
Super #13 VS #16
Beerus Vs Omega Sheron
Syn Sheron VS Super Saiyan 2 Vegetto
Omega Sheron Vs SS4 Goku and SSJ 3 Vegetto
Mr Buu vs Hatchiyack (strongest), Brolly (Movie 10), Super Perfect Cell an)
SSj 2 Vegetto Vs Baby Vegeta and Super 17
Ultimate Gohan, I don't think Buff Buu is that much stronger than Super Buu to close to gap between them.

Turles smacked around Goku who was at 300,000+ with ease. Turles wins

Super #13 doesn't do anything that shows he's as strong as Imperfect Cell. So #16

We never see Beerus' full power, impossible to say

Syn Shenron took a 10X Kamehameha Dragon Fist off guard. All we know is that Super Vegito => SS4 Goku. So Syn Shenron

Omega Shenron easily

Mr Buu destroys them all with little to no effort.

SS2 Vegito. Baby isn't stronger than SS4 Goku and Super 17 matches hits with SS1 Kid Goku. Then gets a hole punched through him by Base Kid Goku.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:40 am

I see SSJ3 Veggeto able to handle anything in GT in terms of villains.

For the sake of argument ill say Super Veggeto is as strong as SSJ4 Goku. Now, going from SSJ1 to SSJ3 would make him 8 times stronger correct (correct me if am wrong)?

Seeing as Goku for all intents and purposes killed Omega Shenron with the Dragon Kamehameha (lets be honest, he only came back from the regeneration, otherwise that was the end of the dragon) in SSJ4, I dont see how SSJ3 Veggeto would lose to Omega. Perhaps SSJ4 Gogeta could stop him, but I doubt it given his insanely short Fusion timer.

SSJ3 Veggeto > Everything we have seen in the franchise so far, in my opinion.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:25 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Seeing as Goku for all intents and purposes killed Omega Shenron with the Dragon Kamehameha (lets be honest, he only came back from the regeneration, otherwise that was the end of the dragon) in SSJ4, I dont see how SSJ3 Veggeto would lose to Omega.
That was Beyond Limits SS4 Goku. Normal SS4 Goku is weaker than base Yi Xing Long, and Super Yi Xing Long is 10 stronger than base Yi Xing Long, which makes Super Yi Xing Long over 10 times stronger than SS4 Goku. SS4 Gogeta is stated to be dozens of times stronger than SS4 Goku, and there is also Goku saying that merging with Vegeta would probably not be enough against Beerus, with Kaio & Vegeta implying the same, while saying that he couldn't imagine such realm existing (I can't think of anything other than realm = power to make sense) when talking about SSGod... you know where this is going, right?
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:42 pm

For the sake of argument ill say Super Veggeto is as strong as SSJ4 Goku. Now, going from SSJ1 to SSJ3 would make him 8 times stronger correct (correct me if am wrong)?

Seeing as Goku for all intents and purposes killed Omega Shenron with the Dragon Kamehameha (lets be honest, he only came back from the regeneration, otherwise that was the end of the dragon) in SSJ4, I dont see how SSJ3 Veggeto would lose to Omega. Perhaps SSJ4 Gogeta could stop him, but I doubt it given his insanely short Fusion timer.
That was not SS4 Goku. That was SS4 Goku powered up by all his teammates holding hands and donating energy (sound familiar?). Regular SS4 Goku is not even 10% as strong base Syn Shenron, as he fired a x10 Kamehameha to no effect. By contrast, SS3 Vegetto is "only" 8 times SS4 Goku. Omega takes it even further, being explicitly stated as ten times stronger than Syn.

SS4 Goku: 1
-x10 Kamehameha: 10

Syn Shenron: 15
-+Dragon Balls: 150

SS Vegetto: 1
-SS3 Vegetto: 8

I think Beerus falls somewhere in that humongous gap. I guess if I had to give them numbers in relation to those ones:

Godku: 12
Beerus: 20
Whis: 30
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Post by Hugo Boss » Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:26 pm

Arbitrarely, I see SSGod Goku around 20 times as strong as Super Vegetto. Also, I have Syn Shenron > Super Vegetto > SS4 Goku. Seeing Omega Shenron over 10 times stronger than Syn Shenron and stronger than both SS4 Goku & Vegeta (Beyond), I would have to make a choice about numbers for comparison.

SS4 Goku - 2
Super Vegetto - 3
SS2 Vegetto - 6
Syn Shenron - 8
SS4 Goku (Beyond) - 20
SS3 Vegetto - 24
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:45 pm

Anyone wanna get it on this?

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I have SSJ3 Mirai Gohan around Super Perfect Cell (maybe less due to only one arm). So, my money is on Goku with relative ease. Maybe only needing SSJ2.
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Post by Rocketman » Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:03 pm

Godku is weaker than Vegetto, but Vegetto has the unfortunate side-effect of looking too much like Vegeta, and that just doesn't get Japan's willy to salute.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:49 pm

As of 2014, Super Yi Xing Long is the strongest villain in the franchise until we see the full power of Beerus and Whiss, or any other villains pop up in new media. I would say Super Yi Xing Long would beat SSj3 Vegito. To me it's Super Yi Xing Long>Whis>Yi Xing Long>FP Super 17>Beerus>Bebi Golden Oozaru Vegeta>Super 17>Bebi Vegeta 3.
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Hellspawn28 wrote:As of 2014, Super Yi Xing Long is the strongest villain in the franchise until we see the full power of Beerus and Whiss, or any other villains pop up in new media. I would say Super Yi Xing Long would beat SSj3 Vegito. To me it's Super Yi Xing Long>Whis>Yi Xing Long>FP Super 17>Beerus>Bebi Golden Oozaru Vegeta>Super 17>Bebi Vegeta 3.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:59 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:As of 2014, Super Yi Xing Long is the strongest villain in the franchise until we see the full power of Beerus and Whiss,
For all we know, the power that Beerus and Whis displayed in the movie surpasses Omega. We don't really have a way of knowing, so you can't really say for certain that Omega is the strongest villain in the franchise.
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