Buu Saga Kai

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Re: Buu Saga Kai

Post by EmmaWinters » Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:13 pm

kei17 wrote:I was rewatching episode 100 and noticed that this time they didn't even have enough money to redraw flashing shots. In the scene where a bus hijacker shoots police cars with a machine gun, the footage suddenly gets jumpy. They seem to have dealt with it by simply dropping some frames.
I haven't noticed any redrawn scenes. Flashing shots definitely benefited the most in Kai, but despite that, I'm relieved that they've (seemingly) stopped crudely reanimating things.
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Post by bkev » Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:15 pm

EmmaWinters wrote:
kei17 wrote:I was rewatching episode 100 and noticed that this time they didn't even have enough money to redraw flashing shots. In the scene where a bus hijacker shoots police cars with a machine gun, the footage suddenly gets jumpy. They seem to have dealt with it by simply dropping some frames.
I haven't noticed any redrawn scenes. Flashing shots definitely benefited the most in Kai, but despite that, I'm relieved that they've (seemingly) stopped crudely reanimating things.
I can only hope they'll leave the flashing scenes alone on home video releases, but considering the music is scored to these dropped frames I doubt it. It is jarring as all hell, especially the Goten shot from episode 101.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:04 am

According to this - http://dragonballbenelux.blogspot.com/2 ... aydvd.html there will be 35 episodes.
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Re: Buu Saga Kai

Post by ChibiGoku » Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:11 am

KentalSSJ6 wrote:According to this - http://dragonballbenelux.blogspot.com/2 ... aydvd.html there will be 35 episodes.
You're misinterpreting that the Blu-ray and DVD's only span across 35 episodes. The actual length won't be that short. In fact, WTK over at Fandom Post, posted that Amazon has a fourth set listed and it lists going up to episode 146. You can see that here.

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<第135話~第146話収録>
It should be noted that it doesn't appear that 146 is listed as "Last Episode", much like what happened during the Freeza arc of Dragon Ball Kai when Toei initially listed the "last" blu-ray set, so I'd bet the Toei Animation European website's episode count is accurate.

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Post by Valerius Dover » Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:51 am

So, if I'm not mistaken, this would bring the total episode count up to 167. Most likely, Seasons 5-7 will be released with 23 Episodes each, retaining the Sumitomo score and Theme Songs. I'm looking forward to hearing the English versions of those. :D
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Post by Ultimat Vegeta Fan » Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:05 am

Mabye they wil make a new saga after buu that plays after batlle of gods to make it 69 episodes long

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Post by sintzu » Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:14 am

Ultimat Vegeta Fan wrote:Mabye they wil make a new saga after buu that plays after batlle of gods to make it 69 episodes long
If we get a new saga it will be under the Z name not Kai
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Post by Cold Skin » Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:29 am

Look, at the pace it's been going so far, I can't imagine how it can be 69 episodes.
And yet, the info comes from Toei themselves, they can't have that wrong.

Right now, they've cut pretty much everything they could, you would believe that the whole thing would be just as short as the previous sagas.
So really, unless at some point in upcoming episodes they said "oh, screw it, let's keep all fillers and go terribly slow until the end now", I can hardly imagine that the current pace leads to 69 episodes!

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Post by B » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:02 am

Haven't multiple people already hypothesized that they're just not going to cut out fighting?
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:09 am

Valerius Dover wrote:So, if I'm not mistaken, this would bring the total episode count up to 167. Most likely, Seasons 5-7 will be released with 23 Episodes each, retaining the Sumitomo score and Theme Songs. I'm looking forward to hearing the English versions of those. :D
You know, Dragon Ball Kai already had two seasons before so the Majin Boo arc would be the third one making FUNimation's "seasons" illogical because they're not following any order. They really should've just called it "Collection" instead than "Season", at least this way there wouldn't be any confusion.
Ultimat Vegeta Fan wrote:Mabye they wil make a new saga after buu that plays after batlle of gods to make it 69 episodes long
If they do it'll certainly not be using the Dragon Ball Kai franchise Toei Animation probably wants to get this done asap, after all, just look at the spectacular picture quality and music the Majin Boo arc has.
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Post by sintzu » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:16 am

Cold Skin wrote:Look, at the pace it's been going so far, I can't imagine how it can be 69 episodes.
And yet, the info comes from Toei themselves, they can't have that wrong.

Right now, they've cut pretty much everything they could, you would believe that the whole thing would be just as short as the previous sagas.
So really, unless at some point in upcoming episodes they said "oh, screw it, let's keep all fillers and go terribly slow until the end now", I can hardly imagine that the current pace leads to 69 episodes!
If they keep the fights the way they were in Z which from the trailers looks to be the case then i can see why it's 69
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Post by TheAldella » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:50 am

Sorry for the absolutely horrendous quality, but if I'm not mistaken, these are redrawn?
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Post by DannyDBZfanforever » Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:47 pm

Will it really be 69 eps of the Majin Buu saga in Kai version? If it is true, I believe that Toei will pass many fillers between episodes.

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Post by sintzu » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:24 pm

DannyDBZfanforever wrote:Will it really be 69 eps of the Majin Buu saga in Kai version? If it is true, I believe that Toei will pass many fillers between episodes.
It looks like it will be but i think the reason is because they are going to leave the fights the way they were in z not the fillers
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:45 pm

You also have to consider that Toei's doing this to make profit not just to please fans, so in their favour those 69 episodes will be profitable rather than 30-40 episodes.

Them Japanese Blu-ray Boxes sure are expensive even though the picture quality isn't that good or the music.
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Post by sintzu » Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:15 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:Them Japanese Blu-ray Boxes sure are expensive even though the picture quality isn't that good or the music.
Do people in japan actually buy anime for that price ?
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:24 pm

Those who can they do others rent/stream the episodes or films to their device as it's a lot cheaper than owning it.

Now for example, Saint Seiya BOX 1 & BOX 2 are coming out soon in Japan for around $340 each, so in this instance they're not really that expensive plus for the quality they're getting it's an awesome deal. But for the English audience we gotta wait for a quality sub release.

Edit: It's actually an upscaled version of SS on Blu-ray. :(
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Post by Valerius Dover » Fri Apr 25, 2014 4:59 pm

Ultimat Vegeta Fan wrote:Mabye they wil make a new saga after buu that plays after batlle of gods to make it 69 episodes long
Nah, that would mean putting in actual effort. :lol:
Seriously, though, I think it was specified that there it's 69 Majin Buu episodes. I do agree that the current pace seems a bit strange for that, though.
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Post by Freeza Soldier #156 » Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:31 pm

sintzu wrote: It looks like it will be but i think the reason is because they are going to leave the fights the way they were in z not the fillers
If the episode count is correct, I have a feeling this is why. This makes me sad. A few of the fights need some serious trimming down (looking at you Gotenks.) I have a feeling it's going to be breakneck pace until Buu is released and then it's going to slow down. I just hope it doesn't slow too drastically. I'm looking for a good chunk of the Buu flying around destroying the world filler to be gone as well. Honestly, this really doesn't need to be more than 45-50 episodes. I'm really digging the pace they have going now. I hope they keep it up.

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Post by DannyDBZfanforever » Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:02 pm

Yeah, I think Toei will leave fillers between fights, example: Base gotenks will fight Fat Buu or SSJ 2 Vegeta fighting dozens of mini Kid Buu :lol: . Just see what Toei did with anime Toriko (completely different from the manga), Toei do not care about the quality and fidelity to the Manga. I did not condemn them, but if they really wanted to do a good job, they should do the anime from the start, with new animation and a similar pace with the Manga. It's good, but could be much better.

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