New Sailor Moon anime and Kai

[kei17]

Well, so it seems that they finally learnt how to revive old manga/anime series.

[Michsi]

This has been mentioned before, but it seems that we are looking at a trend : Lupin, HunterxHunter, Sailor Moon, Rurouni Kenshin and now Dragon Ball (and I might have missed some too.)

[ConanThe3rd]

To be fair, if I was Jhony Toei and I had a choice of Reanimating something like Sailor Moon or taking a chance on Jump's latest series; Ultra Hypothetical Underpants Flash Fighter Girl Wifu, I'd take my chances with the Sailors.

Or I'd animate St&rs, but that's just me.

Has Toei been confirmed as the animators btb?

[sangofe]

This has been mentioned before, but it seems that we are looking at a trend : Lupin, HunterxHunter, Sailor Moon, Rurouni Kenshin and now Dragon Ball (and I might have missed some too.)

Is Lupin a remake? And it wouldn't be right to call dbz kai a remake imo.

[Eire]

You can call it revival. Lupin's series and movies never were a direct adaptations, more like stories sharing a characters (I wouldn't even say that they share the same universe since nobody matters maintaining the consistency or timeline). Kai was too cheap to be called remake.

The remake trend was always present in anime (like in every medium) but now, when it involves titles well known in the West it became more visible. Hope that new BD movie will be rather Lost Canvas than Omega.

[AgitoZ]

I dunno, animated series done by TOEI look like hell, Dragon Ball should've been made by Sunrise.

I thought with the avatar you have you'd know how wrong that statement can be. Toei is just as hit and miss as any other animation studio, especially since most of their work is continually on-going.

You can call it revival. Lupin's series and movies never were a direct adaptations, more like stories sharing a characters (I wouldn't even say that they share the same universe since nobody matters maintaining the consistency or timeline). Kai was too cheap to be called remake.

Something has to be dead to be revived doesn't it?

[Xell]

Toei aren't making a Dragonball remake because it's their cash cow. They're waiting for the exact right moment.

Don't get me wrong, I know the popularity of Saint Seiya and Sailor Moon, but I think Toei are holding it back until they either NEED to do it or they feel they should. What it all boils down to is if they can make a massive profit from it. It's the same reason why Square Enix won't make a Final Fantasy VII remake yet.

Dragonball 50th Anniversary? Perhaps.

[alakazam^]

In summer 2013, to celebrate 20th anniversary of Sailor Moon, new anime will start, it will follow manga closely, and animation will be completely new, not redrawn, as for return voices, so far, Ms. Kotono Mitsuishi and Mr. Toru Furuya confirmed, that they will reprise their roles, as Usagi and Mamoru.
Seeing, how Toei created for Saint Seiya and Sailor Moon true sequels/remakes, it make me really sad, that it was Kai, who got so screwed Granted, unlike Dragon Ball, Sailor Moon anime was very different from manga, but still, Kai at least deserved a fully new animation, not just partly redrawn scenes, and poorly cut filler and manga scenes

As far as I know, the announcement only confirms a new anime will start, it doesn't say anything about following the manga or any other speculation.

[BlazingFiddlesticks]

Toei aren't making a Dragonball remake because it's their cash cow. They're waiting for the exact right moment... It's the same reason why Square Enix won't make a Final Fantasy VII remake yet.

Oh absolutely; you can find examples in a lot of media- appeal to the widest fanbase while spending the least amount of money to assure a profit somewhere and fund expensive, riskier projects. It's Funimation's well-known philosophy as well, and there's nothing really wrong with it. It just is.

[Adamant]

I dunno, animated series done by TOEI look like hell, Dragon Ball should've been made by Sunrise.

I thought with the avatar you have you'd know how wrong that statement can be. Toei is just as hit and miss as any other animation studio, especially since most of their work is continually on-going.

You can call it revival. Lupin's series and movies never were a direct adaptations, more like stories sharing a characters (I wouldn't even say that they share the same universe since nobody matters maintaining the consistency or timeline). Kai was too cheap to be called remake.

Something has to be dead to be revived doesn't it?

Yeah, the new Lupin III isn't a revival. There's been new Lupin III anime produced every year for ages now, there's nothing all that special about this new one.

[Michsi]

Is Lupin a remake? And it wouldn't be right to call dbz kai a remake imo.

Well, I wasn't referring to remakes specifically, but to a trend of bringing old names back into the limelight.

The remake trend was always present in anime (like in every medium) but now, when it involves titles well known in the West it became more visible. Hope that new BD movie will be rather Lost Canvas than Omega.

It's true that old stories have being constantly brought back, but I can't remember if there have ever been so many names in such a short time.

[coola]

Sorry for necroposting, but yesterday, we finally get to see new information about Sailor Moon Crystal, for me, the most surprising thing, was fact, that only Ms. Kotono Mitsuishi return to voice Usagi, all other characters are recast, i know old Ami actress is still active seiyuu, so i wonder why she wasn`t asked to return. It surely wasn`t budget problem, because all women they cast are well known seiyuu, so I'm sure they weren`t hired for less. I'm really looking forward to see this new version of anime, hopefully it will be true remake, instead of "Dragon Ball Z Diet"

[Vegard Aune]

I'm really looking forward to see this new version of anime, hopefully it will be true remake, instead of "Dragon Ball Z Diet"

Of course it'll be a full-fledged new series. They wouldn't have completely revised character-designs if they were just going the Kai-route. Whether this new version will actually stick closer to the manga or not remains to be seen though... Personally I'm hoping for a somewhat more faithful adaptation, but considering what a breakneck pace the manga runs at and how from what I've seen so far, about all the characterization the villains and supporting cast in the old anime got was in fact anime-original and the manga's version of a lot of the characters were completely interchangeable... I do also want some expansion of the material. If only to give the characters who aren't our main heroes some distinct character-traits as well.

[Blade]

I think that it may turn out to be a good thing that we got Kai, as it means we're now unlikely to see a remake - so if Toei wants to milk the franchise further, it's going to have to expand on it. You know? Actual new material!

[Gyt Kaliba]

I think that it may turn out to be a good thing that we got Kai, as it means we're now unlikely to see a remake - so if Toei wants to milk the franchise further, it's going to have to expand on it. You know? Actual new material!

Let's hope so at any rate! If anything, as far as them doing a re-animation of the old material goes, I could see/kinda hope that maybe, years down the line when they actually have to do a full cast replacement, or at least for the main cast, they'll do full movie re-tellings to let us get used to the new cast via 'old' story material rather than just throwing us in with them in new stuff.

[Blade]

I think that it may turn out to be a good thing that we got Kai, as it means we're now unlikely to see a remake - so if Toei wants to milk the franchise further, it's going to have to expand on it. You know? Actual new material!

Let's hope so at any rate! If anything, as far as them doing a re-animation of the old material goes, I could see/kinda hope that maybe, years down the line when they actually have to do a full cast replacement, or at least for the main cast, they'll do full movie re-tellings to let us get used to the new cast via 'old' story material rather than just throwing us in with them in new stuff.

I'm just sick of the endless regurgitation, especially in Toei's handling of the franchise, as it has never been about celebrating the original material - but simply about finding new ways to monetise it.

[ABED]

Why does it matter what their reasons are for making new material?

[Kid Buu]

Sorry for necroposting, but yesterday, we finally get to see new information about Sailor Moon Crystal, for me, the most surprising thing, was fact, that only Ms. Kotono Mitsuishi return to voice Usagi, all other characters are recast, i know old Ami actress is still active seiyuu, so i wonder why she wasn`t asked to return. It surely wasn`t budget problem, because all women they cast are well known seiyuu, so I'm sure they weren`t hired for less. I'm really looking forward to see this new version of anime, hopefully it will be true remake, instead of "Dragon Ball Z Diet"

Usagi and Mamoru were confirmed first thing, so Furuya should be back too. It'll get hard to get used to the new voices, but I'm sure it'll work.

I wonder if the cats will be recasted? In PGSM, Luna had the same VA while Artemis was voiced by Kappei Yamaguchi (Ranma/Inuyasha).

[Blade]

Why does it matter what their reasons are for making new material?

It depends what you call 'new'. I don't regard Kai as being that, it's a regurgitation.

[Basaku]

I'm just sick of the endless regurgitation, especially in Toei's handling of the franchise, as it has never been about celebrating the original material - but simply about finding new ways to monetise it.

And a completly new series wouldn't be about monetization? Of course it ould be, just like GT was. Everything is about cash and it's not wrong by default.