Unpopular DB opinions

[ABED]

I'm sure it's an error by the animators. It's clear in the manga that Freeza is picking off Goku's friends and child in order to make Goku suffer before he kills him.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

It very well could have been an intentional change. Like them switching who killed Cargo.

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

Not sure how unpopular this one is, but I've always felt the best part of the fight against Vegeta wasn't Goku vs. Vegeta, but rather when Kuririn, Gohan and Yajirobe jump in.

[baneofdemon22]

I didn't care for the Battle of Gods movie and grouped it with the rest of the flicks released so far. I thought it was another cash-in, but after watching the extended version, my opinion flipped. I love it! It made up for a lot of the Boo arc to me. I wish there were no numbered forms of Super Saiyan, except for 2 and Super Saiyan God, since it's its own thing. I think SSJ3 looks pretty cool, but I don't want it to be apart of the main story, just a movie form or something.

[MarCas92]

Unpopular opinions? Well here it goes.

Dragon Ball never got as good as it did it's first 2 years (manga).

The art in the Android Arc is the best for the Z portion of the manga.

Dragon Ball as a whole just isn't that well written and the characters aren't particularly deep (except maybe Vegeta and Piccolo).

Kid Boo was a lousy final villain (fitting since the last arc of the series was the least good).

The manga is better than the anime.

Battle of the Gods is the best movie.

World's Strongest is the 2nd best.

YuYu Hakusho as a whole is much better than Dragon Ball. (Don't misunderstand, I still like DB more than YYH).

Android 19 is one of the best designed characters.

Dragon Ball Minus doesn't contradict anything in the manga.

[TheAldella]

Unpopular opinions? Well here it goes.

Dragon Ball never got as good as it did it's first 2 years (manga).

The art in the Android Arc is the best for the Z portion of the manga.

Dragon Ball as a whole just isn't that well written and the characters aren't particularly deep (except maybe Vegeta and Piccolo).

Kid Boo was a lousy final villain (fitting since the last arc of the series was the least good).

The manga is better than the anime.

Battle of the Gods is the best movie.

World's Strongest is the 2nd best.

YuYu Hakusho as a whole is much better than Dragon Ball. (Don't misunderstand, I still like DB more than YYH).

Android 19 is one of the best designed characters.

Dragon Ball Minus doesn't contradict anything in the manga.

I agree with...five out of nine. Nice.

[Flame Dragon]

Woah woah woah, what about Android 19? I have never seen someone even like him.

[Kid Buu]

Dragon Ball never got as good as it did it's first 2 years (manga).

Agreed. The first two arcs are my favourite, glad to see someone is in the same boat!

For the hell of it, I'll respond to the rest of your stuff:

The art in the Android Arc is the best for the Z portion of the manga.

Never really thought about that, but I can see that.

Dragon Ball as a whole just isn't that well written and the characters aren't particularly deep (except maybe Vegeta and Piccolo).

Agreed once again, and I don't think Vegeta or Piccolo are deep either.

Kid Boo was a lousy final villain (fitting since the last arc of the series was the least good).

Yeah, that's true. He feels more like an obstacle as opposed to a villain.

The manga is better than the anime.

Hmm I'm actually more of a fan of the anime. Curious to hear your reasoning on that.

Battle of the Gods is the best movie.

World's Strongest is the 2nd best.

Mine is Dead Zone, but I can see that.

YuYu Hakusho as a whole is much better than Dragon Ball. (Don't misunderstand, I still like DB more than YYH).

I don't really like YYH, but I do think YYH does a few things better than DBZ.

Android 19 is one of the best designed characters.

Yeah! I loved 19 and 20's creepiness. They were really fun villains.

Dragon Ball Minus doesn't contradict anything in the manga

Probably true.

[garnetjester]

Dragon Ball never got as good as it did it's first 2 years (manga).

Wholeheartedly agree. It was so fun to read it, and so full of many adventures and strange creatures! I like the parts with grown up Goku too, but the tone of the story changed a lot and I think I prefer the early parts a lot more because they are funnier

Dragon Ball as a whole just isn't that well written and the characters aren't particularly deep (except maybe Vegeta and Piccolo).

I don't think Vegeta or Piccolo are deep at all. They're the typical bad guy gone good characters. I don't think DB is badly written (except for the maybe some bits in the Buu arc) but it's also not too complex to begin with. I think the deepest DB character is future Trunks, and that's why he's one of my favorites. With that said though, it's impressive how while being kind of one dimensional, all of the cast of DB is generally very endearing, hell, for the simple fight-maniac Goku is, he's probably the most charismatic anime character for me. I think that's where Toriyama really excels, he doesn't need a contrived super convoluted past for his characters, or a really deep motivation, and still they end up being lovable and amazing.

Kid Boo was a lousy final villain (fitting since the last arc of the series was the least good).

I think he was alright for a final villain, but honestly the whole Buu arc dragged so much for me that by the time he appeared and blew up the Earth I was already pretty bored with the whole thing. I like that he did gags and stuff, though, the comedic undertone in the Buu arc is its redeeming grace for me.

The manga is better than the anime.

Agreed completely. It's better by far. The anime drags way too much, which is a shame, because it's a very faithful adaptation of the source material. I still really like the anime too, and think fondly of it, but the manga is the best way to consume the story in my opinion.

I won't quote the other opinions, but I loved BoG a whole lot, especially the extended version. Definitely my second favorite movie, first is Dead Zone.

[Kid Buu]

I've been thinking Cell's backstory is given away way too soon, like literally it's all there in his debut.

One concept I had for Cell is that in his debut he poses as a good guy whose come to help Piccolo defeat the Androids, and once the Androids are beaten Cell makes a surprise absorption on #17. Just have Kami fuse with Piccolo anyways, the Androids saying they want to kill Goku should have been enough of a green light.

[FrogTrigger]

I've been thinking Cell's backstory is given away way too soon, like literally it's all there in his debut.

One concept I had for Cell is that in his debut he poses as a good guy whose come to help Piccolo defeat the Androids, and once the Androids are beaten Cell makes a surprise absorption on #17. Just have Kami fuse with Piccolo anyways, the Androids saying they want to kill Goku should have been enough of a green light.

That would've been interesting, but would he still be drawn the same way or appear more 'heroic'?

I think world's strongest and ead zone are my two fav dbz movies

BROOOOOOOJACK is number three, plus his name is probably the most fun to say

Vegeta seems mad petty and I kinda like that about him

[Kid Buu]

Not sure, but I'd have him introduce himself as someone created by Bulma and sent to the present to help fight against Androids.

Foreshadowing of his "heel" turn would include Trunks & Krillin finding an embyro in Gero's lab.

[TheGmGoken]

Sounds prettt lame honestly. Cell imperfect was smart and all but Cell got genes from different people. Plus it's to expected for his heel turn. Predictability isn't bad. But this sounds boring compared to the actual Cell

[ABED]

I agree that the mystery surrounding Cell was given away FAR too soon. That exposition dump was awful. There were more logical ways to give the audience the info they needed than dump it all out in a very apparent manner all at once.

[thatdbzguy]

I agree that the mystery surrounding Cell was given away FAR too soon. That exposition dump was awful. There were more logical ways to give the audience the info they needed than dump it all out in a very apparent manner all at once.

Yet another reason why the Cell arc is terrible.

[ABED]

I agree that the mystery surrounding Cell was given away FAR too soon. That exposition dump was awful. There were more logical ways to give the audience the info they needed than dump it all out in a very apparent manner all at once.

Yet another reason why the Cell arc is terrible.

I hate that I gave you ammunition, but the fact remains, regardless of how the exposition was delivered it's a good story. You wouldn't have even thought of that if someone hadn't pointed it out to you.

[UltimateHammerBro]

I agree that the mystery surrounding Cell was given away FAR too soon. That exposition dump was awful. There were more logical ways to give the audience the info they needed than dump it all out in a very apparent manner all at once.

Yet another reason why the Cell arc is terrible.

I hate that I gave you ammunition, but the fact remains, regardless of how the exposition was delivered it's a good story. You wouldn't have even thought of that if someone hadn't pointed it out to you.

Don't give him more ammunition. The words "Cell saga" and the like act as a magnet for "the Cell saga is terrible yada yada yada".

[thatdbzguy]

I hate that I gave you ammunition, but the fact remains, regardless of how the exposition was delivered it's a good story. You wouldn't have even thought of that if someone hadn't pointed it out to you.

Funny how you've gotten on me for thinking my views on the Cell arc are fact, yet you just said that the Cell saga being good is a fact.

And no, this is something I noticed before I even joined Kanzenshuu, and you're not the first person I've seen complaining about it.

[Freeza Soldier #156]

And no, this is something I noticed before I even joined Kanzenshuu, and you're not the first person I've seen complaining about it.

Yet, when you first got here, your opinion was the complete opposite. You talked about how you enjoyed the Cell arc and how Cell was your favorite villain, etc. You change your opinion faster than people change underwear. If someone says one thing, you agree and take that on as your "opinion". When someone else says something, even if it's the opposite, you'll do a complete 180 and suddenly that will be your "opinion". The whole point of this forum is to have fun and meaningful discussions about the series. I can't even recall the last time a discussion with you was even remotely close to fun. All you do is constantly dredge up the same topic over and over again. Any discussion with you basically boils down to "It's a fact that the Cell arc sucks because of all of these reasons I've heard other people complain about, regardless of whether or not anyone thinks otherwise."

[Flame Dragon]

"It's a fact that the Cell arc sucks because of all of these reasons I've heard other people complain about, regardless of whether or not I think otherwise."

Fixed it for you.
Now i'm gonna ask you to not bring this here again, you have already got a thread to talk about this, not to mention 4 or 5 older threads you made in the past.

Anyway, i also love Dr. Gero & Imperfect Cell design, they are really creepy villains.