Broly: A Psychological Diagnosis
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Broly: A Psychological Diagnosis
So it's obvious that there is something wrong with Broly mentally, most likely because of his trauma as a child, but what kind of mental disease might he have? Here are some of Broly's characteristics that may point to mental insanity:
1.) he is in humane and doesn't hesitate to kill anyone, even his own father.
2.) he often plays with his victims instead of just killing them; an example of this is when he points a ki blast at the enslaved aliens and then proceeds to destroy their home planet.
3.) he has an irrational hatred towards someone
there are probably many more symptoms, but these three big ones point towards Antisocial personality disorder, which is characterized by disregard for the safety or feelings of others, and irrational anger or hatred.
What do you think?
1.) he is in humane and doesn't hesitate to kill anyone, even his own father.
2.) he often plays with his victims instead of just killing them; an example of this is when he points a ki blast at the enslaved aliens and then proceeds to destroy their home planet.
3.) he has an irrational hatred towards someone
there are probably many more symptoms, but these three big ones point towards Antisocial personality disorder, which is characterized by disregard for the safety or feelings of others, and irrational anger or hatred.
What do you think?
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Re: Broly: A Psychological Diagnosis
I believe it's called "Terrible Character Syndrome". TCS for short.
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Re: Broly: A Psychological Diagnosis
I'd say the whole movie is terrible. The weak premise is what stands out the most: Broly (aka, Mary Sue) holding a mindless grudge against Goku just because he cried as a baby?!Edward Newgate wrote:I believe it's called "Terrible Character Syndrome". TCS for short.
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Not to mention, how would he even know that it was specifically Goku who cried all the time? What about other babies?Luso Saiyan wrote:I'd say the whole movie is terrible. The weak premise is what stands out the most: Broly (aka, Mary Sue) holding a mindless grudge against Goku just because he cried as a baby?!Edward Newgate wrote:I believe it's called "Terrible Character Syndrome". TCS for short.
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I'm telling ya, there's somethin wrong with his noggin!Luso Saiyan wrote:I'd say the whole movie is terrible. The weak premise is what stands out the most: Broly (aka, Mary Sue) holding a mindless grudge against Goku just because he cried as a baby?!Edward Newgate wrote:I believe it's called "Terrible Character Syndrome". TCS for short.
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Re: Broly: A Psychological Diagnosis
How do you figure Broly's a Mary Sue?Luso Saiyan wrote:I'd say the whole movie is terrible. The weak premise is what stands out the most: Broly (aka, Mary Sue) holding a mindless grudge against Goku just because he cried as a baby?!Edward Newgate wrote:I believe it's called "Terrible Character Syndrome". TCS for short.
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Re: Broly: A Psychological Diagnosis
Well, speaking as a Psychologist-in-training...well, I'd say he has Anti-Social Personality disorder, as boring as that sound. Also, the connections between his frontal lobe and his amygdala are very weak (meaning he has impulse control problems). He may also have Obsessive-Compulsive disorder if his behavior towards "KAKAAAROOOOOT!!!" is any indication, though what we saw in the later movie's could just be brain damage from being in a coma for all that time. And...
That's about it really. Sorry if that's not terribly exciting.
That's about it really. Sorry if that's not terribly exciting.
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Re: Broly: A Psychological Diagnosis
Psychology isn't some type of science that transcends the universe, you cannot diagnose an alien psychologically because they hold different values, and different meanings/ways to life.
For the saiyan race, they are literally planet exterminators, in a psychological assessment which holds human bias, you would call them all murdering psychopaths, when really, they're just doing what is not any different from pest control in their eyes.
Psychology, and many other human values hold no usefulness when trying to analyze an alien culture.
But, we do know Broly was an 'abnormal' individual, and his status made even the King Vegeta tremble.
For the saiyan race, they are literally planet exterminators, in a psychological assessment which holds human bias, you would call them all murdering psychopaths, when really, they're just doing what is not any different from pest control in their eyes.
Psychology, and many other human values hold no usefulness when trying to analyze an alien culture.
But, we do know Broly was an 'abnormal' individual, and his status made even the King Vegeta tremble.
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Re: Broly: A Psychological Diagnosis
You know that's always been my problem with the movie. It would have been better without Goku being involved and just being a revenge plot against Vegeta.Luso Saiyan wrote:I'd say the whole movie is terrible. The weak premise is what stands out the most: Broly (aka, Mary Sue) holding a mindless grudge against Goku just because he cried as a baby?!Edward Newgate wrote:I believe it's called "Terrible Character Syndrome". TCS for short.
If I had done the film, it would have been just Vegeta and Trunks in space and less of a one-sided brawl.
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But the thing is, the Saiyans are extremely similar to us, to the point where they're apparently able to breed with humans without the offspring becoming sterile. So I still think Psychology can apply between races.Psychology isn't some type of science that transcends the universe, you cannot diagnose an alien psychologically because they hold different values, and different meanings/ways to life.p
Actually, that's extremely similar to many past societies, like Nazi Germany, the Vikings...heck, just about any war-like culture that makes it's living off of subjugating, plundering, and killing their neighbors.For the saiyan race, they are literally planet exterminators, in a psychological assessment which holds human bias, you would call them all murdering psychopaths, when really, they're just doing what is not any different from pest control in their eyes.
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".
Re: Broly: A Psychological Diagnosis
He remembered his ki obviouslyEdward Newgate wrote:Not to mention, how would he even know that it was specifically Goku who cried all the time? What about other babies?Luso Saiyan wrote:I'd say the whole movie is terrible. The weak premise is what stands out the most: Broly (aka, Mary Sue) holding a mindless grudge against Goku just because he cried as a baby?!Edward Newgate wrote:I believe it's called "Terrible Character Syndrome". TCS for short.

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Re: Broly: A Psychological Diagnosis
Don't be sorry, I think it's so incredible that the forum is so diverse in terms of members and their occupations, and any information is welcomeFionordequester wrote:Well, speaking as a Psychologist-in-training...well, I'd say he has Anti-Social Personality disorder, as boring as that sound. Also, the connections between his frontal lobe and his amygdala are very weak (meaning he has impulse control problems). He may also have Obsessive-Compulsive disorder if his behavior towards "KAKAAAROOOOOT!!!" is any indication, though what we saw in the later movie's could just be brain damage from being in a coma for all that time. And...
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Re: Broly: A Psychological Diagnosis
The whole movie was meant to lure Vegeta into a trap. Once Broly saw Goku (did he even recognize him by voice? I don't recall Baby Broly studying his face), all that was thrown out the window, when Vegeta's family contributed to Broly's insanity as well.
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Re: Broly: A Psychological Diagnosis
Broly is some House-level shit.
The implication is that he could be relatively docile (for a saiyan, I guess) until he became angry, at which point the ship inexplicably sinks.
Gotta be a neurological problem going on there.
The implication is that he could be relatively docile (for a saiyan, I guess) until he became angry, at which point the ship inexplicably sinks.
Gotta be a neurological problem going on there.
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Re: Broly: A Psychological Diagnosis
Culture, Beliefs = Anthropology (Social Sciences)Fionordequester wrote:But the thing is, the Saiyans are extremely similar to us, to the point where they're apparently able to breed with humans without the offspring becoming sterile. So I still think Psychology can apply between races.Psychology isn't some type of science that transcends the universe, you cannot diagnose an alien psychologically because they hold different values, and different meanings/ways to life.p
Actually, that's extremely similar to many past societies, like Nazi Germany, the Vikings...heck, just about any war-like culture that makes it's living off of subjugating, plundering, and killing their neighbors.For the saiyan race, they are literally planet exterminators, in a psychological assessment which holds human bias, you would call them all murdering psychopaths, when really, they're just doing what is not any different from pest control in their eyes.
Genetics = Human Sciences (Psychology)
It's different when you are taking a race whose genetics predispose them to savagery, and a human civilization which chose the option to base their modus operandi on the destruction of others in order to prosper.
Nothing innate is urging humans to battle, unlike Saiyan's who feel it like an itch that needs to be scratched. Even if a human believed he needed to fight, it wouldn't be from within, it would be his culture forcing him to do so, either by propaganda (See Nazi Germany), coercion (See Nazi Germany), religious/cultural beliefs (Vikings Valhalla).
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And that has been proven not to be the case by the appearance of Tarble, Gine and the whole concept of the Super Saiyan God, meaning that there are Saiyans who simply do not like fighting, just as there are humans who do not.Gokuden wrote:Nothing innate is urging humans to battle, unlike Saiyan's who feel it like an itch that needs to be scratched. Even if a human believed he needed to fight, it wouldn't be from within, it would be his culture forcing him to do so, either by propaganda (See Nazi Germany), coercion (See Nazi Germany), religious/cultural beliefs (Vikings Valhalla).
Humans as a species are shown to historically be war mongers who conquer and dominate, just ask our genetic cousins Homo Floriensis or the Neanderthals. Oh right, we decimated them.
We in our combined history on this planet have been just as monstrous as the Saiyans are shown to be. So yes, I believe human psychology would mostly apply to them as well, since they are basically human genetically and psychologically. Heck, even their societies and customs are pretty much similar. Obviously this is because imagining a whole society without borrowing from our history is beyond our own imagination. We cannot imagine what we cannot comprehend.
Apart from that, as a psychologist (albeit clearly not as advanced as our buddy Fionordequester since my course was brief) I believe conditioning from his father is at play here as well, since Paragus was shown to be bat shit insane. I mean his whole plan is convoluted and flat out bonkers. Use Broli to destroy planets and shit, find Vegeta, attract him to this remote planet with promises of ruling, have Broli kill him, have Broli die with comet, ???, Profit?
I mean, this guy was sore at first due to King Vegeta sentencing him to death, but then he started having delusions of grandeur using the power of his own son, whom he has no problem having killed just because he can't deal with him, not for some selfless realization that he is too dangerous or anything.
Sure Broli is shown to enjoy violence since young, like any other Saiyan his age, except he is incredibly powerful. Tullece and Vegeta are shown to be just as evil, if not more. They are just not as powerful. Then you introduce his crazy dad who wants revenge against the royal family at all costs, he keeps hammering this into his young son's mind, he must avenge them, he must kill Vegeta. Why would Broli have a beef with Vegeta at all? He didn't even know him, he was a baby anyway, why would he remember anything if his father didn't hammer it into his mind? Furthermore there's the fabulous mind control tiara. Do you honestly not think it would not fuck with his emotional health? That thing is supposed to keep his urges and emotions in check, it's only when he senses the ki of that annoying baby that was right next to his crib that he finally breaks the circlet and all his suppressed urges and emotions come rushing in. How would you fucking feel?
Remember, this guy is a Saiyan, not more, not less, but just as evil as the likes of Tullece and Vegeta, only immensely more powerful and with around a full decade of repressed emotion. Judging all this, is all that follows that strange? It seems only natural to me. All this emotion rushing in, all these urges, all the power unrestrained, fuck, I would probably do the same.
To me (and this may have been just a "cool scene they added", if it was on purpose, kudos), the one scene that best identifies this is the moment just before he fully transforms. First, all his rage builds up and his power spikes, his dad tries to control it, he looks up and has a moment of sheer calm and clarity (what I take from his expression), followed by an immense burst of rage and power which destroys the circlet and transforms his body beyond it's own capabilities. His finally free from his fathers clutches and ready to act on all those feelings and urges he had within for around a decade.
In sum, maybe he would have been just a normal ass Saiyan (psychologically speaking) if his dickwad of a father didn't fuck so much with him.
Re: Broly: A Psychological Diagnosis
He relishes destruction and lacks empathy. He seems like a sadistic psychopath with a god complex due to his natural power, who eventually becomes obsessed by the one person he instinctively feels is a threat to him: Goku.
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Wasn't Tullece the same?rereboy wrote:He relishes destruction and lacks empathy. He seems like a sadistic psychopath with a god complex due to his natural power(...)