What's up with Gotenks' Hair?

Panda · Post by **Panda** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 5:04 pm

I'm lazy and I don't have any pictures but has anyone noticed Gotenks' widows peak? Neither Goten or Trunks have a widows peak but Gotenks does. I guess it "inhereted" from Vegeta but since Gotenks' is a combination of Trunks and Goten doesn't that kind a make him like, their kid? (gross...)

I don't know. It just seems odd to me.

Mystic Jack · Post by **Mystic Jack** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 7:07 pm

You're right about the fact Goten and Trunks not having a peak to their hair, really I think the design was just to give it a vibrant look and to show the streak's in the hair of black and lavander.

Li'l Lemmy · Post by **Li'l Lemmy** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:17 pm

Panda wrote:I'm lazy and I don't have any pictures but has anyone noticed Gotenks' widows peak? Neither Goten or Trunks have a widows peak but Gotenks does. I guess it "inhereted" from Vegeta but since Gotenks' is a combination of Trunks and Goten doesn't that kind a make him like, their kid? (gross...)

Well, here's a comparison shot for those who need it:

Hmm. Shoulda picked a Gotenks whose peak was a little more pronounced, but we all get the idea.

Anyhoo. If Fusion really does give rise to a hybrid entity, then I don't see why it wouldn't/couldn't "borrow" something from Trunks' ancestry in creating Gotenks, since it's all encoded in Trunks' biological makeup anyway.

Let's get scientific: The idea that Gotenks could be the "son" of Goten and Trunks may be strange or even discomforting, but it isn't without merit . . . and keep in mind that nature doesn't particularly share our distinctions of morality and taste, anyway. There's a rare reproductive process in nature called symbiogenesis in which two separare organisms merge to create an single new, permanent organism . . . sound familiar? With the obvious difference that Goten and Trunks will always de-fuse, I've always likened Fusion to the humanoid equivalent of this fascinating process.

It's very similar to the Potara, in fact, which are permanent!

Let's make a blind guess: While I don't have any proof, it's been a long-standing theory of mine that Gotenks could have been specifically intended to resemble Vegeta. He died so early on that maybe Gotenks' attitude and hairstyle were done with the Saiyan prince in mind. It's almost as though we got our SSJ3 Vegeta after all!

Let's come up with another excuse: I'unno. Mystic Jack's theory isn't so bad, either.

MartianOddity · Post by **MartianOddity** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:09 am

Myself I've always wondered where Goten's and Trunks' small kid noses dissapeared. You know, those small chubby noses Akira Toriyama drew on the kids to make then look like kids? Gotenks has a teen's nose. I wonder why?

I don't really know why Gotenks hair became almost the one of Vegeta's, but it maybe was the best design solution.

vl · Post by vl » Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:14 am

Li'l Lemmy wrote:

Let's make a blind guess: While I don't have any proof, it's been a long-standing theory of mine that Gotenks could have been specifically intended to resemble Vegeta. He died so early on that maybe Gotenks' attitude and hairstyle were done with the Saiyan prince in mind. It's almost as though we got our SSJ3 Vegeta after all!

Maybe the hairstyle, but not the attitude. Vegeta would never make such a joke out of himself like Gotenks. And I never saw Vegeta laughing except for his Evil Laugh and his grin before a fight he knows he's gonna win.

Bejiita · Post by **Bejiita** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:52 am

Actually, Goten and Trunks sometimes have this when all their hair is blown up. Well maybe not Goten as much, but it does slightly dip in the middle, either way it must be based off of the hair line Trunks has.

I'll try and find a picture.

Here, you can clearly see the hair line which near enough resembles the one Gotenks has, so there isn't any theories about Goten and Trunks' child! Funny stuff, this is simply the hair line Trunks has beneath all those strands!

And to mention it's harder to notice the shape of Trunks' hairline because there isn't a think line representing it, just gaps where each strand is rising from with a white gap in it's place, I'm sure with a drawn line to shape it it would resemble Gotenk's exactly.

Vegeta's one is very much more different and unique to him, let me try and find Goten with this, also Goku has the same hair line in DB, although I have seen the anime give him a more or less stright hair line with curves at the sides.

Can you see a Gotenks in this edited picture?

You may find many anime screens which have Trunks with a flat hairline, like when he goes back to base form after winning the Jr. Championships, I am obviously basing my view from the manga which is the original.

Panda · Post by **Panda** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 12:12 pm

http://content.answers.com/main/content ... _photo.jpg

No peak.

http://goldknight.rubberslug.com/galler ... mID=169864

No peak...

http://www.dbzn.net/fusions/gotenks.jpg

Peak... and a very obvious one.

With other screenshots (that apparently vary between the animation groups) both Trunks and Goten (and Gohan...) have peaks occasionally. Mainly while in SSJ-form.

Bejiita · Post by **Bejiita** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 12:17 pm

As I stated at the bottom of my post, my theory is using a Trunks picture from the manga, which is the original and was drawn by the creator of the fused character we are talking about.

It's funny why those Trunks pictures you provided were not manga images.

Are you trying to compare original with artificial? The proof is staring you in the eye right there my friend.

Don't make me laugh.

Panda · Post by **Panda** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 12:49 pm

Oh, well excuse me. I don't own any manga (or anime for that matter)

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/20078546/

No Peak.

http://www.dbgoku.nl/gallery/Dragonball ... mage19.htm

No Peak.

http://images.google.com/images?q=chibi ... anga&hl=en

And since Meri is apparently the only one with Chibi-Trunks manga scans. No peak for a good number of those.

Bejiita · Post by **Bejiita** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:16 pm

Yea Toriyama does seem to draw his hair line different in a few images actually. It because Trunks' hairline is hard to make out, I can still find a few images out of the mange where the Gotenks hairline is visible on Trunks, SSJ and base form. And the hair does often hide the sape of it a lot too.

Toriyama did make some mistakes in some places, but this looks more like a miss-judgement since it's blatantly obvious in a lot of pictures, and this has to be where Gotenks takes it from.

You can clearly see the shape in these images that it peaks in the middle.

veshira · Post by **veshira** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:56 pm

My in-universe theory is...

From Trunks' side, Gotenks inheritated his widow's peak and purple hair, while from Goten he inheritated the black and possibly the spikiness, but probably not. It seems the "Vegeta-hair-style" gene is a powerful one that lives on, popping up every random generation or so, since Vegeta Jr. has it.

My out-of-universe theory is...

Toriyama wanted to draw a chibi Vegeta-looking character.

SaiyaMel · Post by **SaiyaMel** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:29 am

Perhaps all saiya-jin have peaks - just some more pronounced than others.

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:13 pm

Well...Raditz had a widow's peak, at least.

And...and Nappa too. Very pronounced one, at that. For sure.