Dragon Ball Z "Seasons" On Blu-ray: News & Discussion

[Puto]

EDIT: The guy actually claimed that the footage on the left was from the Orange Bricks are they purposely making them look worse? :shock:

Those are the orange bricks— just that the upscale was done with nearest neighbour, which is positively the most HORRENDOUS way you can upscale video footage.

[qjz123]

When they have to lie to get their point across they should know that something is wrong. They didn't have to lie when they made the level sets.
Edit: I found this on wikipedia: An image scaled with nearest-neighbor scaling (left) and 2×SaI scaling (right). Wow I don't even know what to say.

[Fizzer]

The 4:3 shots a actually look pretty good. Would buy.

[dbboxkaifan]

The 4:3 shots a actually look pretty good. Would buy.

I suppose I'd consider it too but I don't know why FUNimation likes to make the footage darkened, the same happened to Curse of the Blood Rubies.

Blackening the footage is a horrible idea and we're losing details due to it.

[bkev]

That's what TV settings are for. If the encode is good, it's not that hard to brighten it up a little bit. It won't be perfect, but it would likely be a step up. People have done wonders with the Star Wars blu-rays by starting with basic color correction processes.

It kills me that the cropping is done afterwards, though. Guess we know what won the survey...

[eledoremassis02]

Hopefully this new Sailor Moon Bluray will impact later FUNi releases of Z
http://youtu.be/0EiRioogSvA?t=22s

[qjz123]

Hopefully this new Sailor Moon Bluray will impact later FUNi releases of Z
http://youtu.be/0EiRioogSvA?t=22s

Why would it? Funimation didn't remaster that themselves did they? There have been no releases that were given to Funimation already remastered in 4:3 where Funimation went and changed the aspect ratio. They have only changed the aspect ratio on 2 release and those are releases that they made themselves.

[eledoremassis02]

Hopefully this new Sailor Moon Bluray will impact later FUNi releases of Z
http://youtu.be/0EiRioogSvA?t=22s

Why would it? Funimation didn't remaster that themselves did they? There have been no releases that were given to Funimation already remastered in 4:3 where Funimation went and changed the aspect ratio. They have only changed the aspect ratio on 2 release and those are releases that they made themselves.

Viz is distributing the blu rays for Sailor Moon but at this point I am not sure if they remastered it. However, it could show FUNimation that there is no need to "Update" Z, then again Sailor Moon only had 2 releases here in the U.S. But if you look at sailor moon, it looks clear (for the 720p video anyway) and looks near to how how I've remembered seeing it. Depending on the grain levels its sorta on par with the level sets with the colors boosted a bit it appears.

Plus, if the screen shots posted 1 page back, it appears they remastered it in 4:3 and then changes it 16x9.

But I guess the damage was done during the orange bricks because I guess you could assume they planned on a 4:3 release for the season blu rays but because of the orange bricks people have become accustomed too 16x9 Z. Hopefully we can get Dragon Ball in 4:3 though

[qjz123]

Hopefully this new Sailor Moon Bluray will impact later FUNi releases of Z
http://youtu.be/0EiRioogSvA?t=22s

Why would it? Funimation didn't remaster that themselves did they? There have been no releases that were given to Funimation already remastered in 4:3 where Funimation went and changed the aspect ratio. They have only changed the aspect ratio on 2 release and those are releases that they made themselves.

Viz is distributing the blu rays for Sailor Moon but at this point I am not sure if they remastered it. However, it could show FUNimation that there is no need to "Update" Z, then again Sailor Moon only had 2 releases here in the U.S. But if you look at sailor moon, it looks clear (for the 720p video anyway) and looks near to how how I've remembered seeing it. Depending on the grain levels its sorta on par with the level sets with the colors boosted a bit it appears.

Plus, if the screen shots posted 1 page back, it appears they remastered it in 4:3 and then changes it 16x9.

But I guess the damage was done during the orange bricks because I guess you could assume they planned on a 4:3 release for the season blu rays but because of the orange bricks people have become accustomed too 16x9 Z. Hopefully we can get Dragon Ball in 4:3 though

It's still not a fair comparison, Yu Yu Hackusho, DBZ Kai, just to name a couple of series that were remastered in Japan, Funimation didn't touch them. Viz did not do the remastering their release of Sailor Moon should not be compared to Funimation's release of DBZ. Funimation is using multi generation 20 year old film masters. Funimation has not changed the aspect ratio of anything that was already remastered. I've seen a lot of people including Viz make this comparison it makes absolutely no sense to me.

[eledoremassis02]

I understand that. I don't fault FUNimation for crushed blacks or even "excessive grain" thats just what they have to work with. My feeling is just that you dont have to make a 20+ year old show look like it was produced yesterday in order for people to enjoy it. Degraining a little is ok, but they did it alittle too much and while the 16x9 is better than the orange brick, some scenes need additional digital pans that are woozy. They also not saturate the image as much. While the 16x9 is not as bad as the orange bricks, when the raw 4:3 shots come up they remind me how much cooler it would look.

The sailor moon sets equal would be the canceled level sets. Heck, I even hear sailor moons being sold as 1/2 season sets

[qjz123]

I understand that. I don't fault FUNimation for crushed blacks or even "excessive grain" thats just what they have to work with. My feeling is just that you dont have to make a 20+ year old show look like it was produced yesterday in order for people to enjoy it. Degraining a little is ok, but they did it alittle too much and while the 16x9 is better than the orange brick, some scenes need additional digital pans that are woozy. They also not saturate the image as much. While the 16x9 is not as bad as the orange bricks, when the raw 4:3 shots come up they remind me how much cooler it would look.

The sailor moon sets equal would be the canceled level sets. Heck, I even hear sailor moons being sold as 1/2 season sets

I'm not defending the cropping I'm just saying that Viz's release shouldn't be compared because its not a release they are doing themselves yes I know it is also an old show but in the past whenever Funimation has brought over a release the was already done in Japan they have released it as is. It annoyed me when Viz took a shot at Funimation because they were releasing Sailor moon uncropped because thats something that Funimation has been doing for years.

[SSJ3_Zack]

So yesterday I got a copy of the first level set and the quality blew me away, I'm pissed that I've been supporting this release. I really liked the graininess of the level sets (is that weird?). What are the chances of Toei doing it's own remaster in HD? I might give these blu rays to my nephew whilst I wait for a better release.

[qjz123]

So yesterday I got a copy of the first level set and the quality blew me away, I'm pissed that I've been supporting this release. I really liked the graininess of the level sets (is that weird?). What are the chances of Toei doing it's own remaster in HD? I might give these blu rays to my nephew whilst I wait for a better release.

That's not weird at all most of us feel the same way about the grain. As far as Toei doing an HD remaster, they're currently releasing the Buu saga of Kai so I wouldn't expect an HD remaster of the original series for a while.

[Kid Buu]

Sailor Moon and Ranma 1/2 Blurays are Viz, and they constantly take cheap shots at Funi for using 16:9

[SupremeSSJ]

No you're not weird I love the grain in 80's anime it gives it a better feel to the show.

[TheGmGoken]

Sailor Moon and Ranma 1/2 Blurays are Viz, and they constantly take cheap shots at Funi for using 16:9

They do? Examples?

[Kid Buu]

Sailor Moon and Ranma 1/2 Blurays are Viz, and they constantly take cheap shots at Funi for using 16:9

They do? Examples?

"Ranma confirmed to be hi-def in 4:3, the original aspect ratio. #nocropping"

https://twitter.com/VIZMedia/status/388785620409417728

This was said when it was announced DBZ was gonna be 16:9

[Gokuden]

On Twitter Viz says that the new voice actors for the dub are being picked by the creator of Sailor Moon herself.

Why can't DBZ have a working relationship with Toriyama that way? Nonetheless, this is very exciting, I will be the first in-line to get Sailor Moon complete sur Blu-ray.

Gotta hand it to Viz, they know how to treat the Sailor ladies.

#NoCropping

Let's send several tweets to Funimation with that hashtag, like Sony fans did to keep the PS4 region-free.

[qjz123]

On Twitter Viz says that the new voice actors for the dub are being picked by the creator of Sailor Moon herself.

Why can't DBZ have a working relationship with Akira that way? Nonetheless, this is very exciting, I will be the first in-line to get Sailor Moon complete sur Blu-ray.

Gotta hand it to Viz, they know how to treat the Sailor ladies.

#NoCropping

Let's send several tweets to Funimation with that hashtag, like Sony fans did to keep the PS4 region-free.

Why does everyone keep saying this… Viz is licensing an already existing Blu ray release from Japan and releasing it the way they got it. Well guess what? Funimations been doing that for YEARS long before Viz ever did. Yu Yu Hakusho and DBZ Kai just to name a couple. It just so happens that when it comes to DBZ there is no Blu ray release for it in Japan other than Kai oh yeah and guess what? Funimation brought Kai over and kept it in 4:3. Viz's release of Sailor Moon and Funimations cropped release of DBZ can't be compared. Its not like Funimation is bringing over a release that was already done and complete in 4:3 in Japan and taking it and cropping it to 16:9 which Viz's #NoCropping would lead you to believe. Funimation is creating this release themselves from scratch its a completely different situation. What Viz is doing with their #NoCropping is nothing special in fact Funimation did long before Viz ever even thought of it. Funimation has never changed the aspect ratio of a complete release that they licensed from Japan.

[Kid Buu]

I don't think there is a Sailor Moon Bluray release in Japan actually.

There was a Ranma 1/2 Bluray in Japan that Viz used.