How much stronger would Broly be?

[Kishido]

How much stronger would he be with the following things happened to him... and how would he compare in the Z universe?

1. Super Saiyan 2
2. Legendary Super Saiyan 2
3. Super Saiyan 3
4. Legendary Super Saiyan 3
2. Majin upgrade to his standard legendary mode
3. Elder Kai Upgrade

[Low Tone G]

After a Majin Power-up he would simply explode. He was already pure evil couldn't even control himself.

[Kaboom]

Well, the way I see it, Broli's "Legendary" Super Saiyan form is just his substitute for Super Saiyan 2, and the "(Legendary) Super Saiyan 3" for him we've seen in the games is just one step above that. So that considered...

1. Roughly as strong as with "Legendary" Super Saiyan, but a little faster.
2. No such thing as "Legendary Super Saiyan 2."
3. Same relative boost that anyone gets with Super Saiyan 3 — Roughly 4x stronger than his LSSJ or SSJ2.
4. Same as above.
5. The so-called "Majin boost" is Bobbidi bringing out your dormant power, which is unpredictable. I, personally, get the impression that most of Broli's power is already on the surface, and the gradual power growth he experiences over the years is pretty much what would be dormant power for other people just being brought out to the surface instead. So his boost from Bobbidi would be very minor.
6. The Elder Kaioshin's boost is likewise a dormant power unlock, but it brings you WAY past your current limits, rather than just to or a bit past them like Bobbidi's. So based on what I said in #5, he'd probably end up somewhere between SSJ3 Goku and Evil Boo.

[Kishido]

Well, the way I see it, Broli's "Legendary" Super Saiyan form is just his substitute for Super Saiyan 2, and the "(Legendary) Super Saiyan 3" for him we've seen in the games is just one step above that. So that considered...

1. Roughly as strong as with "Legendary" Super Saiyan, but a little faster.
2. No such thing as "Legendary Super Saiyan 2."
3. Same relative boost that anyone gets with Super Saiyan 3 — Roughly 4x stronger than his LSSJ or SSJ2.
4. Same as above.
5. The so-called "Majin boost" is Bobbidi bringing out your dormant power, which is unpredictable. I, personally, get the impression that most of Broli's power is already on the surface, and the gradual power growth he experiences over the years is pretty much what would be dormant power for other people just being brought out to the surface instead. So his boost from Bobbidi would be very minor.
6. The Elder Kaioshin's boost is likewise a dormant power unlock, but it brings you WAY past your current limits, rather than just to or a bit past them like Bobbidi's. So based on what I said in #5, he'd probably end up somewhere between SSJ3 Goku and Evil Boo.

Dragon Ball Kai card game...

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2014 ... _Broly.png

As you see... He clearly hasn't the pupils as in his legendary state... And his Super Saiyan 3 state looks like a legendary form as but is, instead in one case, always listed as normal Super Saiyan 3 and not legendary.

I dunno... it could easily be that he has a normal Super Saiyan 3 mode and a legendary mode... Even if he haven't seen them. Same as he has a normal SS form as well

[Kaboom]

Well, good for the Kai card game, listing things that don't make any sense and introducing inconsistencies.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Wait, Legendary Super Saiyan 2 Broli is actually a thing?! If so, is he called like that, or he is called just Super Saiyan 2?

[xmysticgohanx]

1. Weaker than LSSJ; His SSJ = SSJ Gohan but LSSJ > SSJ2 Gohan so I give it a 3x boost.
2. >Fat Buu but might lose due to regeneration.
3. In between Fat Buu and SSJ2 Goku.
4. SSJ3 Goku < LSSJ 3 << SSJ Gotenks
2. Unpredictable.
3. >Majin boost.

EDIT: Had the arrows in #4 facing the wrong way

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Wait, Legendary Super Saiyan 2 Broli is actually a thing?! If so, is he called like that, or he is called just Super Saiyan 2?

スーパーサイヤ人2ブロリー
Sūpā Saiya-jin 2 Burorī

It's just regular Super Saiyan 2 that for some reason uses his "Legendary" appearance, the same as Super Saiyan 3 has for him in the various games. Though I know it's an official game, I'm not sure how much stock I'd put into their classifications. I mean, they also have this as Super Saiyan 2 Gohan from the Cell Games. =P

[Kaboom]

Well, I'm glad that's cleared up. I'm a bit ashamed that I can't instantly pick out the characters for "Super Saiyan" on sight at this point.

[dbzfan7]

How much stronger would he be with the following things happened to him... and how would he compare in the Z universe?

1. Weaker than his LSSJ form which I consider his version of SSJ2 or a different grade form.
2. Answer up above
3. Stronger than SSJ3 Goku but weaker than SSJ3 Gotenks, Ultimate Gohan, Super Boo, etc.
4. What I said before.
2. I don't think he really has hidden power.
3. Better than whatever Majin could give.

[Saiga]

Some official proof that LSS = SS2 Broli. I dig it. That other card is clearly Gohan transforming into SS2 so no problems there, nope. Nosiree.

Anyway, that said:

1 / 2 - He already is, I believe. So.. as strong as he already is!

3 / 4 - 4x stronger than that, per SS3's multiplier. I'm not really sure how to rank Broli's strength from movie 10 though, so I don't know whether he'd wind up stronger or weaker than Goku. Either way he'd be in the same range.

5 / 6 - Can't tell. Broli's dormant power isn't ever really explored. Presumably "Ultimate Broli" would be weaker than Ultimate Gohan since non-hybrids typically have less dormant power, but who knows.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Some official proof that LSS = SS2 Broli. I dig it. That other card is clearly Gohan transforming into SS2 so no problems there, nope. Nosiree.

I'm not sure it works like that man. lol

Looking through all the Broli cards in the current MBC database, none of them use the term "Legendary Super Saiyan". All of the buff form cards use "Broli", "Super Saiyan Broli" and "Super Saiyan 2 Broli". Ya also have "Super Saiyan 3 Broli", but there is an obvious difference there. =P

[Saiga]

Yeah, well... a Super Saiyan 2 Broli is still a Super Saiyan Broli and a Broli.

[KentalSSJ6]

Yeah, well... a Super Saiyan 2 Broli is still a Super Saiyan Broli and a Broli.

I think LSSJ is treated like a Grade with Broly. He can use the state when he wishes.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I'll take it as Legendary Super Saiyan 2. His SS3 is named at least once as Legendary Super Saiyan 3, so it would make sense for him to have a Super Saiyan 2 version of his form.

[Mjb1985]

I don't think there is a need for LSSJ2 or LSSJ3. Legendary Super Saiyan is plenty. The guy literally does nothing for years being restrictive and has an outrage and craps all over the Saiyans who have been training their whole lives. Then he's in a coma for 7 years and craps all over the much improved Saiyans again. Broly's power rising disgustingly and he does not need such forms imo. If there was a way though, it would be LSSJ2 and LSSJ3, LSSJ is just Super Saiyan for Broly, but it's super special.

[xmysticgohanx]

I'll take it as Legendary Super Saiyan 2. His SS3 is named at least once as Legendary Super Saiyan 3, so it would make sense for him to have a Super Saiyan 2 version of his form.

That's what I consider it to be too. Also I just realized a mistake I did in my post almost a month after

[MasterVampire]

I don't know why people think Broly is strong.

Goku was able to beat him just with the combined energy from his friends.

I wouldn't have Broly stronger than SSJ2.
SSJ2 Goku, Vegeta and Kid Gohan would easily beat him.
Same with Cell and Buu.

[Darkprince410]

I don't know why people think Broly is strong.

Goku was able to beat him just with the combined energy from his friends.

I wouldn't have Broly stronger than SSJ2.
SSJ2 Goku, Vegeta and Kid Gohan would easily beat him.
Same with Cell and Buu.

Part of it comes from the dub, where a scene right before Piccolo's arrival has him seemingly stating that he's growing stronger, which has led to some people believing that his strength is constantly rising following his transformation. Original version of the scene has him stating that his ki is rising, but that it's overflowing and causing him considerable pain, to where he needs to expel the excess, thus putting more or less a cap on his strength.

Then there's people misinterpreting the opening bit of info we get in movie 8, believing that Broly's "destruction" of the Southern Galaxy was an instantaneous act rather than something he was doing over the course of several years. As a result, you get thinking along the lines of "Well, if Cell was only able to destroy a Solar System and Broly can destroy a galaxy, then Broly must be many many times stronger than Cell!"

Some people also seem to misinterpret the strength he received from his friends. Despite none of them transforming, I see people believing that Gohan, Trunks, and Vegeta donated their full Super Saiya-jin strength to him, and thus "Oh, it took Goku, who was far stronger than a Super Saiya-jin 2, to defeat Broly!"

Then there's merchandising and other such media that have helped to skew how strong he's perceived. A few such examples would be the old DBZCCG by Score, which had a lv. 5 Broly personality card from Movie 10 with a battle power almost equal to that of a lv. 5 Ssj3 Goku personality card from the Buu Saga, and both the Dragonball Z Budokai 3 and Tenkaichi 3 intros, showing Broly being able to go toe-to-toe with Ssj Gogeta, which would obviously put him in upper Buu Saga tiers of strength.

[dario03]

I don't know why people think Broly is strong.

Goku was able to beat him just with the combined energy from his friends.

I wouldn't have Broly stronger than SSJ2.
SSJ2 Goku, Vegeta and Kid Gohan would easily beat him.
Same with Cell and Buu.

Some people also seem to misinterpret the strength he received from his friends. Despite none of them transforming, I see people believing that Gohan, Trunks, and Vegeta donated their full Super Saiya-jin strength to him, and thus "Oh, it took Goku, who was far stronger than a Super Saiya-jin 2, to defeat Broly!"

That part actually does make some sense though (well actually no but that's because the whole thing doesn't make sense). But if Gohan, Trunks, and Vegeta donated just base level strength then there wouldn't of been much of a change at all (unless we get into the SS isn't 50x and is only a slight boost in the movies (except for Movie 5)). Actually Goku probably wouldn't even get his power level up to his fresh level if he added their weakened base strength to his weakened strength and Piccolo would of been the biggest gain. So I would say he did get some SS strength from them, but all of them were beat up so its not like it was all of their strength combined.