"Dragon Ball XENOVERSE" Official Discussion Thread

[hulkty]

Every big game franchise is the same when you think about it so I don't know why some games are insulted while others are loved. Dimps or Spike will be great for me, I just hope if it's Spike their doing Tenkachi 4 and if it's Dimps their doing Budokai 4 or Burst Limit 2.

Why do people still ask for these? They will never happen. Its WAY too late now...

[EXBadguy]

Theres a rumor on Facebook saying this game will use a tweaked version of the Brave Soldiers engine and that it goes from the Saiyan saga to Majin Buu saga with no movie characters/saga and a board game style story mode . But if this Rumor is true then the game sounds like shit to be honest.

I actually wouldn't mind and board story, just as long as it has real alternate endings and try to have destined battles like in the Soul Calibur series. Like I said many times, playing through the main story's gettin' old. So old to the point that I don't even care if they do a original crappy fan-fiction story.

Why do people still ask for these? They will never happen. Its WAY too late now...

It's about time somebody else said it besides me. And whoever said that fans have had enough of Spike since 2007, why were there people wishing Spike back after the releases Budokai HD collection and BoZ. Don't know whatcha got until it's gone.

[VegettoEX]

And whoever said that fans have had enough of Spike since 2007, why were there people wishing Spike back after the releases Budokai HD collection and BoZ.

Aren't you seeing all the people also wishing for Dimps to come back with a new game, as well?

Everyone's also clearly ignoring Super Saiyan Prime's points - based in reality with sales figures and business models behind them - about Burst Limit still being the best-selling HD game for the generation and Bandai Namco first jumping to an HD Collection of Budokai games with no word about a similar Sparking! collection. Numbers don't lie, and speak louder than words on Internet forums.

[EXBadguy]

Aren't you seeing all the people also wishing for Dimps to come back with a new game, as well?

Yes that as well, in fact I sometimes see more people bitching for Dimps to come back than Spike, but that doesn't negate my point because even since we saw more of UT back a few years ago, fans went beserk and the support of a BT4 and RB3 went high quickly.

Everyone's also clearly ignoring Super Saiyan Prime's points - based in reality with sales figures and business models behind them - about Burst Limit still being the best-selling HD game for the generation and Bandai Namco first jumping to an HD Collection of Budokai games with no word about a similar Sparking! collection. Numbers don't lie, and speak louder than words on Internet forums.

I think that both "words" and numbers speak equally louder. Look what happened with the RB series along with some other games like DmC(though it had solid sales, more that haters thought it would sell), SSIV:AE, etc. It doesn't matter what situation these games were in, all I'm saying that if there's a majority in the interwebz who don't like a game, they don't buy it and the sales show that people don't like it.

Oh, and correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't UT had decent sales?

[VegettoEX]

Ultimate Blast/Tenkaichi jumped up slightly over Raging Blast 2, yeah, but still only basically met where the first Raging Blast was at and didn't come anywhere near close to Burst Limit.

I can't really tell what else you're saying. You're just name-dropping other games and spouting generic game talk, all summed up with... I... can't tell at all. Words don't speak louder than numbers. Bandai Namco is a business, and they clearly saw a better bottom line ahead of them selling HD versions of Budokai games than they did Sparking! games.. and specifically to international audiences (namely US and Europe), as they didn't even release the compilation in Japan at all. If that doesn't tell you something, you're not paying attention.

[EXBadguy]

I never said words speak louder than numbers, I said both words and numbers speak "evenly". I'll say it again, IF a majority of people from the interwebs(which I mean more than one forum) express their dislike for a game, the sales will show. Anyone remember the RB2 vs Storm 2 a long time ago, Storm 2 won because people express their interest for it along with expressing their hatred for RB2 for saying "it's the same shit over and over". Storm 2 sold a million while RB2 sold almost 500,000. I even remember Storm 2 winning an AWARD at E3 a few years ago for something, but I don't remember what it was.

I know it may seem that I believe that words speak louder, but I'm not. I get the whole business perspective, I'm just talking about the other side of the sales.

[Hellspawn28]

And whoever said that fans have had enough of Spike since 2007, why were there people wishing Spike back after the releases Budokai HD collection and BoZ. Don't know whatcha got until it's gone.

After the first RB game came out, people were like "I want something new. This gameplay is getting old". The first RB game had hype since it was pretty much a Sparking game in HD. The game end up being a water down version of the Sparking games and the star pieces were the most annoying thing that the game had to offer. Spike has it's fair share of fanboys which is why you have fans here wanting another RB or Sparking game.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

Yes that as well, in fact I sometimes see more people bitching for Dimps to come back than Spike, but that doesn't negate my point because even since we saw more of UT back a few years ago, fans went beserk and the support of a BT4 and RB3 went high quickly.

That was more of a large reaction to the underdelivery UT had vastly sweeping the fanbase. Like with BoZ people only want Spike back because the scale of disappointment was the lesser of the two with them over Artdink. When Spike was in charge people aggressively insisted they wanted Dimps Back then too. The game fanbase seems to be vague with what they want but side with the lesser of the two flops when the worst gets worse.

[Hellspawn28]

I wouldn't be so certain of that. For a while now I've gotten the suspicion that Atari assisted in the funding of the games produced in their era, whether they were Japanese developed or otherwise. Something convinced Bandai to make a new console game after five years, but it certainly wasn't the sales of Legendary Super Warriors. There's also the fact that products like the first Budokai and Shin Budokai seemed tailored around where the US release of DBZ was situated. Movie 12 was eleven years old by the time Shin Budokai launched in Japan, but weeks away from launch in the US when that game came out. It'd also be neglectful of me to not mention that prior to Budokai Tenkaichi, every PS2 game launched in North America before Japan. That relationship seemed more serious than solely one based on localizations.

The last time I check, the only DBZ games that Atari had any apart of is the Legacy of Goku games and any DBZ games made in the US. The ones from Japan like the Budokai games and the Sparking Games are all done by Bandai. Bandai is the ones paying Spike and Dimps to make the DBZ games. Atari is lucky enough to have them come out in the US first. Movie 12 was always a popular movie with the Japanese fandom the last time I remember. Doing a game that retells Fusion Reborn seem like a good idea because of the nostalgia.

[The Tori-bot]

Up close, those screens do actually look pretty schweet. Will probably hold out until I get a next-gen console to give this a shot.

[Hellspawn28]

This is not our first real next gen DBZ game though. I think this will be our last DBZ game on the PS3 and 360. Our first next gen DBZ game will likely be out by 2016. By 2016, PS4 and Xbox One will be more common in households.

[jjgp1112]

The only way I'll be excited is if Spike can keep its filthy paws off of it. Dimps, please!

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

The only way I'll be excited is if Spike can keep its filthy paws off of it. Dimps, please!

I agree. Spike isnt the worst company to handle these games but they their babisteps of improvement quality each year and constant backtracking in the sequels is why these games never improve on anything relevant. They know how to make these games but never build on anything they start.
Too many amatuer programmers and terrible time management is what makes DBZ games so medicore. ArtDink is more so just a weak company period. Cheap labour that failed Namco in the end. Instead of just putting Dimps, who developed the most popular mainstream fighting series of all time have them treat DBZ with the same experience, understanding and effort for our sake, they get generic no-name groups to make them. This is what I honestly believe is the problem.
Spike just seems unable to translate their Tenkaichi success onto next gen consoles, and it should have been left at that. Instead of trying to milk an empty cow they should bring back their fighting Bull. (Budokai)

Theres nothing that suggests at all Dimps is related to this game and for what I know its highly unlikely to be untrue; but if this is a BoZ2, theres no hope for this game.

It's not Artdink for 3 Reasons:

1.The game was being worked on October 2013 (confirmed by treevax).
2.he talked with a community manger and they told him it's not Artdink.
3. Their models would never NEVER get this smooth/great looking.

It's highly likely it's Dimps because of the models/Graphics and specially the Goku model,just go look at Spike models and Burst Limit models and u will know why.

it's Dimps or Spike or another company it's definitely not Artdink though.

I only suspected it was ArtDink based on the lighting and the colour scheme being almost identical to BOZ which you have to admit, the only thing that seperates it is the fact the models are clean, but its the PS4 if the models were as bad as they were in BoZ on next gen, it would just be laughably pathetic.

It doesnt really look like a Dimps game to me, the scene of Goku and Vegeta in their stances look almost exactly like RB2's. As someone else mentioned, the backside model of Goku's hair and face look like Spike's - overlyrounded and plasticy. The hair highlights in the other shot look like Ultimate Tenkaichi's. I have a stronger feeling this is a spike game using BoZ mechanics at most. It just seems that way. I dont see why Namco would suddenly want Dimps considering how they are. Someone suggested that they use Dimps just to bring the icebreaking hype for the new consoles as they were the first to launch on each prior platform (minus Ps1) but it doesnt make sense of a marketing strategy to do that, why even need spike? Considering Spike's tighter relationship with Namco and Namco's ignorantly more positive view of them from Tenkaichi milking - it seems like they must be their go-to group.

[Nanotchi]

Well, Dimps still works with BandaiNamco, I can say that. They develop the tamagotchi nintendo 3DS games, I know that, and they've been doing it for years. I would love to see them return for dragon ball though~

[American Pelican]

This is not our first real next gen DBZ game though. I think this will be our last DBZ game on the PS3 and 360. Our first next gen DBZ game will likely be out by 2016. By 2016, PS4 and Xbox One will be more common in households.

We don't really know what the lead platform is.

[Daimo-Rukiri]

This is not our first real next gen DBZ game though. I think this will be our last DBZ game on the PS3 and 360. Our first next gen DBZ game will likely be out by 2016. By 2016, PS4 and Xbox One will be more common in households.

We don't really know what the lead platform is.

Glorious PC Master Race?...

Anyway, it'll probably be another boring fighting game we've got since 2002... I wish they would give the free roam combat system a try with actual thought put into the game... Sagas was a mess><

[Hellspawn28]

Knowing how DBZ games are made then I guess the PS3 and 360 are the main platform. PS3 is not going to be dead for another two more years. Japan may milk the PS3 even longer knowing how the milk the PSP. The PSP died out like in 2010 for America.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

Up close, those screens do actually look pretty schweet. Will probably hold out until I get a next-gen console to give this a shot.

TBH with DBZ games, still-scans mean nothing. We don't really know what images are even gameplay shots, for all we know the best pics (Goku vs Freeza/Goku vs Cell) could be a snap from the game opening. Don't doubt me until you consider how these DBZ companies work. Its not impossible for them to do that regardless of how unlikely you see it. It isnt. Even without that as a consideration the visuals in motion are the tell-tales. If the animations are choppy and combat strings look clunky even by the trailer's demonstration the game itself is worthless. I'm sorry, its just hard to not be skeptical with this game.

Yes you seem Right,But we can't know for sure until a trailer is released (where the developer is announced),I honselty don't get it with them trying new ideas (UT,BOZ) and giving a tight budget to the developers and a tight develop time which causes a un-polished glitchy online and crappy game at the end.Considering what u said i've got back to screens and yes it seems like Spike's since the graphics of the rocks and house and the tree doesn't look so great unlike Dimps it's probably UT-Upgraded models but diff cell-shading level though.

All it will take is a trailer for me to guess what this games going to be yet another waste of time. Probably RB3 most likely, either using Treevax's ideas (judging from character creation still there) or they're just winging it. They better at least be using Treevax's ideas or this game might as well not be made.

[dbboxkaifan]

HE TOUGHT it was Dimps but he said it was a mistake.

So he thought at first it was a Dimps game and now it isn't any longer according to him? There goes his credibility as the special dude with more inside info.

This is not our first real next gen DBZ game though. I think this will be our last DBZ game on the PS3 and 360. Our first next gen DBZ game will likely be out by 2016. By 2016, PS4 and Xbox One will be more common in households.

Unless the prices of both systems drop down to $300-$250 then average consumers and parents of kids will just stick to the last-gen consoles (360, PS3, Wii) for now, although during the Christmas time they always spend more than they should.

The so-called "next-gen" already commenced in 2012 so it's current-gen (PS4, XO, WU) by now, and the 360/PS3/Wii are last-gen.

[miguelnuva1]

Every big game franchise is the same when you think about it so I don't know why some games are insulted while others are loved. Dimps or Spike will be great for me, I just hope if it's Spike their doing Tenkachi 4 and if it's Dimps their doing Budokai 4 or Burst Limit 2.

Why do people still ask for these? They will never happen. Its WAY too late now...

Maybe because Budokai 3 and Tenkaichi 3 were both fun games despite not having a decent budget and being rushed out by Bandai. I can only imagine how fun Budokai 3 would be if Dimps were allowed to fully finish it.