DBZ Kai coming to Toonami

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Re: DBZ Kai coming to Toonami

Post by Avenged » Wed May 28, 2014 12:38 pm

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Mewzard wrote:I wonder when the website will be updated about the news of Kai coming to Toonami. Figured it might not be through the holiday weekend, but I'm surprised nothing was posted today.
Which website? Kanzenshuu?

An existing dub coming to another network is not really something we would post about.
Nope this site hardly ever posts news on the English dub.
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Re: DBZ Kai coming to Toonami

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Wed May 28, 2014 12:41 pm

Gotta admit, I kind of wondered about whether it would be posted or not, since I'm pretty sure I remember it being posted about when the show first came to Nicktoons...but I can see the difference there. Back then, it was flat out the premiere of the show, dub or otherwise, on English shores in an official capacity. That would carry more news-worthy weight than it just now being ported to Toonami.

Granted, I still think it merits posting myself, but eh, it's not my site, not my decision, so there you are. :P
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Re: DBZ Kai coming to Toonami

Post by Mewzard » Wed May 28, 2014 3:01 pm

VegettoEX wrote:Which website? Kanzenshuu?

An existing dub coming to another network is not really something we would post about.
It's the only Dragon Ball-focused website I've gone to since...well, many many years (back in the Unrivaled and Planet Namek days).

I do appreciate the post though:

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2014/05/28/dr ... fall-2014/

I know it's not your primary focus (being far more fans to the original version), but to the kind of fan I am, it's been the news of the year thus far for me (at least until a US release of Battle of Gods/one of the older specials, or a new movie is announced).

Kai is what I always wanted from when I discovered what was removed/changed from the original: a more accurate, better acted dub with the proper music (while still keeping the voices I liked).

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Re: DBZ Kai coming to Toonami

Post by Son Goku » Wed May 28, 2014 5:33 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I think that was a random one time thing back in 2008. I think the last time Toonami played DBZ was DBZ Movie 12 and 13. Before that, it was the Black Star Dragon Ball arc of GT in early 2005. Ultimate Uncut was not on Toonami since it was around 11:00 PM on weekdays from what I can remember.
Just like to clear up a few things here.

1. DBZ's last run on Toonami lasted from April 7th, 2007 to March 22nd, 2008, running episodes 140 through 180 during that time. Before that, it was off and on during the summer of 2006 with episodes from late Namek and Garlic Jr.
2. Movies 12 and 13 aired during late 2006.
3. Toonami did air some of Ultimate Uncut dub after it finished its 10pm weekday run, airing from October 15th, 2005 to January 14th, 2006. They got 9 episodes in, then switched to showing the Saban dub for 4 weeks before the show was pulled until that summer.
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Re: DBZ Kai coming to Toonami

Post by Kid Buu » Thu May 29, 2014 3:51 am

KentalSSJ6 wrote:
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90sDBZ wrote:Didn't an episode of Z air on Toonami just last year when Toonami returned for April Fools? It was the one when Gohan beats Cell I believe.
They did, as part of the original 'one night April Fool's Day event' of Toonami, that generated such a huge fan reaction that we ended up getting Toonami back full-time.
Funny how that works. A shame they lost Inuyasha though.
That's why I stopped watching. Despite owning the series on DVD/Blu-Ray, there was something nostalgic about staying up late to watch InuYasha.

I'm not really a fan of Kai or the English Version so I wont watch, but I'm glad that Toonami fans will get to see it I guess.
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Re: DBZ Kai coming to Toonami

Post by ChibiGoku » Fri May 30, 2014 9:29 pm

Alright, at the risk of the possibility of this topic getting off topic, I figured I'd post this.

There has been some speculation as to why FUNimation and Toei Animation decided to go with Toonami for broadcast, as opposed to continuing their relationship with Saban Brands on broadcast for the Vortexx. Ultimately, we now know our answer:

Traditional Saturday Morning Programming Ends This Fall as Saban Brands Pulls the Plug on the Vortexx

Truthfully, I'm not surprised, as I had speculated something was happening to the block, given Vortexx would be a no show at the Licensing Expo, Dragon Ball Kai would not go into the Buu arc in the Fall, and ultimately the move to push the show on Toonami got announced.

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Re: DBZ Kai coming to Toonami

Post by BurakkuForesuto » Sat May 31, 2014 2:33 pm

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Blade wrote:Well, we have sort of just had recent confirmation that the Ocean Kai was actually produced for Cartoon Network. So in regard to the mysteries wrapped up in an enigma surrounding that particular production, nothing will surprise me anymore.
That was most likely a mistake. Tom Keenlyside and John Mitchell obviously don't give two fucks about Dragon Ball as they also listed the Westwood Dub as one of their shows that had aired in the US.
The Westwood dub aired on the UK Cartoon Network, but the company itself is still American. It stands to reason that the American Cartoon Network was still technically their client for the project.
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Re: DBZ Kai coming to Toonami

Post by Daimo-Rukiri » Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:48 am

Kid Buu wrote:That's why I stopped watching. Despite owning the series on DVD/Blu-Ray, there was something nostalgic about staying up late to watch InuYasha.

I'm not really a fan of Kai or the English Version so I wont watch, but I'm glad that Toonami fans will get to see it I guess.
I was hoping they'd air the Final Act eventually, Toonami had interests in it back in 2012 so that was kind of disappointing and I also don't get Neon Alley although it is a new channel.

I'll probably catch Kai if it's at a decent time.

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Post by Kid Buu » Mon Jun 02, 2014 2:09 am

Yeah that came as a shock it was taken off prematurely, but I'm sure InuYasha: The Final Act will come to Toonami one day seeing as it is still one of Viz's most popular Shonen franchises (they already have both Naruto series on there and Bleach is on its way out).

You can also watch it legally for free on Hulu, but I think they only have the sub so I bought the Blu-Rays to watch it dubbed. Although the sub isn't bad, I prefer the dub because I just need Paul Dobson's Naraku. Such an awesome performance, especially
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Re: DBZ Kai coming to Toonami

Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Jun 02, 2014 3:32 am

Someone is not happy with this news :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7aiLWHHGlA

People forget that Toonami is always have been about action animated shows from Japan and North America. Toonami is not made for nostalgia.
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Re: DBZ Kai coming to Toonami

Post by ChibiGoku » Mon Jun 02, 2014 7:08 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:Someone is not happy with this news :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7aiLWHHGlA

People forget that Toonami is always have been about action animated shows from Japan and North America. Toonami is not made for nostalgia.
He made a response video too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg7eCJMnCaM

And he contradicts himself too!

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Post by JEFFMAN219 » Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:55 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:Someone is not happy with this news :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7aiLWHHGlA

People forget that Toonami is always have been about action animated shows from Japan and North America. Toonami is not made for nostalgia.
Smh what an idiot. You see this why I go off on people like him on YouTube, his stupidity angers me.

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Post by Freeza Soldier #156 » Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:58 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:Someone is not happy with this news :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7aiLWHHGlA

People forget that Toonami is always have been about action animated shows from Japan and North America. Toonami is not made for nostalgia.
I was going to count the number f-bombs in there, but I couldn't keep up. There is just no helping some people. *sigh* :problem:

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Re: DBZ Kai coming to Toonami

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:16 pm

Kid Buu wrote:Yeah that came as a shock it was taken off prematurely, but I'm sure InuYasha: The Final Act will come to Toonami one day seeing as it is still one of Viz's most popular Shonen franchises (they already have both Naruto series on there and Bleach is on its way out).

You can also watch it legally for free on Hulu, but I think they only have the sub so I bought the Blu-Rays to watch it dubbed. Although the sub isn't bad, I prefer the dub because I just need Paul Dobson's Naraku. Such an awesome performance, especially
I doubt they will get Final Act. Its only 26 episodes and yes I know they got Shingeki No Kyojin and that 25 but SNK is arguably the most talked about anime/manga franchise of the past few years and even recently outsold One Piece in half year sales.
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Post by Kid Buu » Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:23 am

Shows like Sword Art Online, Black Lagoon, and Blue Exorcist are on there. Final Act may not be on as early as AoT, but I'm sure it'll get a later timeslot at one point.
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Post by Son Goku » Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:37 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:I doubt they will get Final Act. Its only 26 episodes
That didn't stop them from getting Deadman Wonderland, Casshern Sins, Samurai 7, Tenchi Muyo! GXP, Sword Art Online, Space Dandy, Blue Exorcist, and Black Lagoon.

Really, length is not a factor in whether Toonami gets a show or not, they've even talked about being interested in airing OVAs with only a handful of episodes (which, in the case of Fooly Cooly, they already have). The deciding factors in if Toonami gets a show are if it's licensed and dubbed, if they can afford to air it, and if the Toonami staff/fanbase are interested in the show.
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Post by Nikkolas » Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:09 pm

Kid Buu wrote:Yeah that came as a shock it was taken off prematurely, but I'm sure InuYasha: The Final Act will come to Toonami one day seeing as it is still one of Viz's most popular Shonen franchises (they already have both Naruto series on there and Bleach is on its way out).

You can also watch it legally for free on Hulu, but I think they only have the sub so I bought the Blu-Rays to watch it dubbed. Although the sub isn't bad, I prefer the dub because I just need Paul Dobson's Naraku. Such an awesome performance, especially
Out of curiosity, do you mean you have Final Act on blu-ray? I've been keeping an eye out for the first anime in BR form but I don't think it's gonna happen. And even if it does, it might end up being a Japan only thing, like what happened with the old Gundam series. (I'd love me some Wing and Zeta on blu ray....but I'm a dub fan so that ain't gonna happen. Not legally anyway)

It is always refreshing to see IY still has fans though. :) Been a lover of the series for over a decade now - ever since the early days of adult swim. Sadly I wasn't a huge fan of Final Act. Replacing Kagome and Sesshy's voices, the former being my favorite performance in the original next to Dobson's Naraku, was really crappy. That plus it kind abridged too many things for my taste.

Oh and in regards to the tip about Hulu - a quick warning for anyone interested in buying Inuyasha Season Sets The "repackaged" sets released in 2013 are missing some OPs and maybe EDs. I saw it on hulu that at least the first OP, "Change the World", was removed and replaced with Inuyasha's regular theme. I checked this years ago so I can't remember how many other OPs were gone but I know at least one other was. I can't speak for EDs because I don't subscribe to hulu so I only got the free sample of the beginning of the episode but it seems to me that Viz just lost the license to some of the songs and didn't bother renewing them.

So if you are gonna buy the DVDs, try and look for older releases, generally around 2005-2008 or 2009 I believe

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Post by Kid Buu » Tue Jun 03, 2014 6:15 pm

I have the repackaged sets. They still have the correct OP and EDs, it is just the Hulu version that messes it up.

And yeah I have the Blu-Rays for Final Act, they look great. :D Sadly, much like most anime, it was a bit pricey, but worth it. It'd be interesting to see the first series on Blu-ray, but my wallet wouldn't be able to take it.

EDIT: The movies are on Bluray too.
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Post by Nikkolas » Tue Jun 03, 2014 6:51 pm

Oh wow, really? That's interesting to hear about the OPs and EDs... I made sure to get used copies of the old sets of Season 1 and 2 because I was worried about that but I guess I don't have to be anymore. Not that it isn't worth it to try and get the old sets - used IY seasons on ebay go for about $10 when you get them in Auction so I might just keep doing that. I don't care about my stuff being New as long as it's complete.

I only really want Seasons 1-3 and 7 anyway. 1-3 because it had the best episodes IMO and 7 because it comes with extras like interviews with the dub cast. After I get those four, I'll get 5 and 6 someday but they aren't a priority.

Yeah i know about the Movies being on blu-ray but...uh...I don't like any of them if I'm honest. I have yet to see a good "Anime Movie" outside of one or two of the DBZ films.

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Post by Kid Buu » Tue Jun 03, 2014 6:59 pm

What, the Band of Seven arc isn't a priority? But Jakotsu is an awesome character. I got the new releases because slim cases take up a lot less room. :P

Season 7 comes with an interview with the subtitled cast. I think the last disc for every season comes with the dub interview, but I know for sure its on the Season 7 one.

We should probably continue this on PM....since it has nothing to do with DB at this point.
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