Are saiyans aboriginals of Planet Vegeta?

[Low Tone G]

Toriyama ingores the tsururu-jin existence on Planet Vegeta as in the manga there non of them are present. Does that mean Planet Vegeta is the saiyans' original homeworld? What about plantians, they were extinct by saiyans?

[Legendary Saiya-Jin]

Toriyama ingores the tsururu-jin existence on Planet Vegeta as in the manga there non of them are present. Does that mean Planet Vegeta is the saiyans' original homeworld? What about plantians, they were extinct by saiyans?

I've always wondered this myself, but it seems to be one of many things A.T. has finally cleared up by eliminating Toei side stories and introducing his own story. It seems apparent that Saiyans are Vegetalings and there's probably no reason to think they aren't otherwise.

[Kaboom]

This seems to be the case from Toriyama's perspective for now, but stuff like Minus has all taken place in a post-Tsufrian time period, so I wouldn't at all be surprised if he came up with his own little backstory for the Tsufrians in a future interview or Q&A session. In fact, with the conflicting versions of the story from multiple sources we have now (anime filler, GT, PtEtS), a single, all-trumping version from Toriyama himself could be a benefit.

[B]

Planet Vegeta used to be Planet Plant, according to Episode of Bardock. Where the Saiyans came from is never expanded upon, but it's not like Earth is just full of human beings.

... And I was speaking of "our" Earth; going even further with that, the Dragon World isn't just made up of animal-people.

[Thouser]

According to Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans and GT, the Saiyans originally came from another planet. Other than that I don't think it's ever been addressed.

Based on their name, I would assume they would originally have come from a place called "Saiya". Whether that was another planet, or maybe some kind of location on Planet Plant is open I guess. Unless the at-the-moment non-existant in-universe origin of their name has nothing to do with a location at all.

[Hellspawn28]

Tsufrians don't exist in the manga. I doubt AT will ever use them or mention in any future media. Episode of Bardock pretty much ignores the Tsufrians as well. It won't surprise me if AT says something like "Saiyans are ancient humans that came to Planet Plant over millions of years ago".

[Low Tone G]

I personally I can imagine that the beings of Planet Plant(Vegeta) were segregated, and never met each other untill the saiyans decided to migrate over Plantians, and erased them from existence.

[soulnova]

You know, Oiishi might even ask this question eventually. On Episode of Bardock she is also using the previous knowledge of "Planet Vegeta" was "Planet Plant" before. She really seems interested on the Saiyan Race so I can imagine the question about if Saiyans are really originally from Planet Plant or from "Planet Saiya".

Now, for the filler episode, AT was asked to help with the idea and design of the Tsufuru, which technically he could take in consideration, as nothing else contradicts this so far. But I wouldn't be surprised if he has forgotten about them. Ooishi certainly hasn't.



Someone really needs to give him a link to a wiki. xD

[Hellspawn28]

I like having filler stuff not be apart of the manga. I think we are better off not knowing where the Saiyans came from anyways. If we do, AT will give us answer that 90% of us will be bitching about.

[Kaboom]

Well whaddya know, Toriyama remembers the Tsufruians after all.

[B]

Great, now Episode of Bardock makes no sense. Unless Tsufruians and "Plantians" are one and the same...

Just... anything but GT, please.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Great, now Episode of Bardock makes no sense. Unless Tsufruians and "Plantians" are one and the same...

We only saw one village and its deserted surroundings out of the whole planet. It's like saying that there are no monkeys on Earth after only seeing a village in US.

[dbgtFO]

Judging from that interview it seems Toriyama is in line with the idea of the Saiyans originally coming from another planet than Vegeta, since he Refers to the Tsufurians as the original inhabitants of it.

[Low Tone G]

I'm fine that Toriyama aknowledges the existence of Tsufurians, and the saiyans are inhabitants of another planet, but it doesn't necessailry mean that plantians do not exist. Like a race on the same planet, like animal-type eartlings on Eatrh. Toriyama does like these oddities.

[Legendary Saiya-Jin]

Why do people keep mentioning Episode of Bardock? That's the one where he turns SSJ, right? (I just loathe this idea so much.) Does Akira really acknowledge as some sort of canon or did he have something to do with it or what? If not, who cares? It's just another one of Toei's inconsistency garbage and making everyone's grandmother a super Saiyan now with continuity jacking bs.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

It's a bit complicated, I guess. Toriyama designed Chilled and the manga version of Episode of Bardock is included in the manga based Chozenshu. BUT, Toriyama never really acknowledges what he actually considers it and even somewhat contradicts it with his newest additions to the franchise with Jaco, interviews, etc. So the answer is, we don't really know what it is considered.

That being said, regardless of who likes it or not, Episode of Bardock is part of the franchise and does present valid points to discuss about the topic at hand. So there is no reason to just shun it like a leper.

[B]

It's just another one of Toei's inconsistency garbage

"Tsufruians" have been "Toei's inconsistency garbage" for the past 15 or so years, until this book came out literally yesterday.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

It's just another one of Toei's inconsistency garbage

"Tsufruians" have been "Toei's inconsistency garbage" for the past 15 or so years, until this book came out literally yesterday.

Well, Toriyama made up the Tsufruians & their backstory for Toei.

[Hellspawn28]

I think King Kai's origin would fit the Tsufruians origin then the origin that Bebi give us in GT.

[soulnova]

Well, I'm glad he at least remembers or was reminded about them. I'm sure Oishii had to do with that. lol

So, we have pseudo-confirmation that Saiyans come from another planet. I'm actually fine with that.