Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TonyTheTiger » Fri May 30, 2014 1:11 pm

Broly's redefined power set was just a plot device. Vegetto needed an opponent that would give him an opportunity to show off his power. Vegetto fights somebody strong, demonstrates his overwhelming power, wins the fight, everyone thinks Vegetto is invincible and has the tournament in the bag, and...uh oh...he lost! That's textbook Dragon Ball plotting right there. So for this trick to work, Vegetto needed an opponent who was very strong but also very disposable (ex: it couldn't be Cell or Buu since they need to stick around). If we think of Vegetto as the DBM equivalent of Vegeta then Broly is the DBM equivalent of Android #19. I'm not sure who could have worked here. None of the official characters could make Vegetto sweat. Would any other non-plot essential character be ripe for a plot device power boost? Wouldn't we complain just as much if he randomly gave Bojack this "stronger over time" trait? And if Salagir invented someone out of thin air we'd be having the same conversation except replace "Broly fanwank" complaints with "OMG MARY SUE FAN CHARACTER!"
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by FoolsGil » Fri May 30, 2014 1:18 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:U13 Vegeta most likely went SSj2 by training. Vegeta would never stop training even when he becomes emperor of the galaxy.
Surely U3 Bardock would have became SSJ2 by now if that was the case. he likely would be years ahead of Vegeta when it comes to SSJ, and he had the motivation to ascend with Raichi still alive.
TonyTheTiger wrote:Broly's redefined power set was just a plot device. Vegetto needed an opponent that would give him an opportunity to show off his power. Vegetto fights somebody strong, demonstrates his overwhelming power, wins the fight, everyone thinks Vegetto is invincible and has the tournament in the bag, and...uh oh...he lost! That's textbook Dragon Ball plotting right there. So for this trick to work, Vegetto needed an opponent who was very strong but also very disposable (ex: it couldn't be Cell or Buu since they need to stick around). If we think of Vegetto as the DBM equivalent of Vegeta then Broly is the DBM equivalent of Android #19. I'm not sure who could have worked here. None of the official characters could make Vegetto sweat and if Salagir invented someone out of thin air we'd be having the same conversation except replace "Broly fanwank" complaints with "OMG MARY SUE FAN CHARACTER!"
That too. Broly was necessary for change in more ways than one.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TonyTheTiger » Fri May 30, 2014 1:28 pm

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Hellspawn28 wrote:U13 Vegeta most likely went SSj2 by training. Vegeta would never stop training even when he becomes emperor of the galaxy.
Surely U3 Bardock would have became SSJ2 by now if that was the case. he likely would be years ahead of Vegeta when it comes to SSJ, and he had the motivation to ascend with Raichi still alive.
Yeah, but the only reason Goku and Vegeta realized ascending was possible is because they started getting their asses kicked as Super Saiyans. The normal transformation into a Super Saiyan can happen naturally as we've seen with Goku, not to mention that the whole legend thing put it on everyone's radar as a possible achievement. But the ascension stuff was a very forced process. A specific course of events inspired the notion that going beyond was even possible and it took a lot of trial and error before they actually figured it out. So it's definitely possible that under different circumstances a Super Saiyan would never even think to try.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri May 30, 2014 4:20 pm

I don't think the Earth was fully destroyed in U13. I remember the U13 chapter with Goku and Radditz, they left the Earth with life still on it. Makes me wonder if Gero is still alive in U13. He could still create Cell somehow.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Rocketman » Fri May 30, 2014 7:10 pm

TonyTheTiger wrote:Wouldn't we complain just as much if he randomly gave Bojack this "stronger over time" trait?
I wouldn't. My hatred for it is entirely based on the Broly fanwanking.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by miguelnuva1 » Fri May 30, 2014 8:49 pm

Even if Vegeta learned to ascend without Goku I dont see him needing to surpass ASSJ.

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Post by rereboy » Sat May 31, 2014 8:11 am

Rocketman wrote:
TonyTheTiger wrote:Wouldn't we complain just as much if he randomly gave Bojack this "stronger over time" trait?
I wouldn't. My hatred for it is entirely based on the Broly fanwanking.
That just shows how incoherent your opinion is.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Rocketman » Sat May 31, 2014 2:18 pm

rereboy wrote:That just shows how incoherent your opinion is.
My opinion is very coherent: I am anti-Broly. Any idea, any use, any plot, becomes irrevocably poisoned by Broly being attached to it. And if elected, I will ban Broly forevermore from this great franchise.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by FoolsGil » Sat May 31, 2014 2:23 pm

Rocketman wrote:
rereboy wrote:That just shows how incoherent your opinion is.
My opinion is very coherent: I am anti-Broly. Any idea, any use, any plot, becomes irrevocably poisoned by Broly being attached to it. And if elected, I will ban Broly forevermore from this great franchise.
:lol: You're silly.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by goku the krump dancer » Sat May 31, 2014 2:39 pm

Rocketman wrote:
rereboy wrote:That just shows how incoherent your opinion is.
My opinion is very coherent: I am anti-Broly. Any idea, any use, any plot, becomes irrevocably poisoned by Broly being attached to it. And if elected, I will ban Broly forevermore from this great franchise.
If a worth while DBZ game ever comes out and we play online I'll make sure I use Broly to wreck you lol.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sat May 31, 2014 2:43 pm

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Rocketman wrote:
rereboy wrote:That just shows how incoherent your opinion is.
My opinion is very coherent: I am anti-Broly. Any idea, any use, any plot, becomes irrevocably poisoned by Broly being attached to it. And if elected, I will ban Broly forevermore from this great franchise.
If a worth while DBZ game ever comes out and we play online I'll make sure I use Broly to wreck you lol.
Unless of course he uses SSJ2 Goku, SSJ2 Vegeta, any form of Gotenks, any form of Buu, Mystic Gohan, Dabra, Beerus, Whis, Veggeto, almost anyone in GT, etc.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat May 31, 2014 2:46 pm

Speaking of which. If they made Broly fit in the timeline then why couldn't just use Hatchiyack instead? Wouldn't all the Saiyan at the Budokai make his power grow. Least that makes sense compared to "Broly is cool"

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Super Vegetto » Sat May 31, 2014 3:36 pm

Well nice art by Asura and story is moving faster in panels...

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Marco Polo » Sat May 31, 2014 4:08 pm

DBM got its mojo back :clap:

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat May 31, 2014 4:13 pm

rereboy wrote:The only thing in this fan manga that actually contradicts the manga is Cold being stronger than Freeza
There is also Dabra's energy been used for Majin Boo, and #17 & #18 being cyborgs.
(that stuff about 1st form Freeza's power isn't even in the fan manga, it was just a early and outdated idea of Salagir).
You are right. I was under the impression it was in that chart that Salagir posted in a sticky post during the Bardock special, but I was wrong.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat May 31, 2014 5:23 pm

He's going to use the Ghost Warriors now. I don't think this battle will last long now.
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Post by TrunksTrevelyan0064 » Sat May 31, 2014 5:37 pm

"I killed this person!" "Oh, in that case I will send that exact same person at you!" Um, how is that a good idea? Silly Raichi.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by goku the krump dancer » Sat May 31, 2014 7:04 pm

TrunksTrevelyan0064 wrote:"I killed this person!" "Oh, in that case I will send that exact same person at you!" Um, how is that a good idea? Silly Raichi.
Lmmfao

I freakin called it though . Maaaybe they're stronger now though and Raichi might get disqualified for having "people" help him. Unless I missed something before.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sat May 31, 2014 7:29 pm

TrunksTrevelyan0064 wrote:"I killed this person!" "Oh, in that case I will send that exact same person at you!" Um, how is that a good idea? Silly Raichi.
Well, the ghost warriors in the OVA were much stronger than the fighter they were emulating, weren't they?
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