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Broly's redefined power set was just a plot device. Vegetto needed an opponent that would give him an opportunity to show off his power. Vegetto fights somebody strong, demonstrates his overwhelming power, wins the fight, everyone thinks Vegetto is invincible and has the tournament in the bag, and...uh oh...he lost! That's textbook Dragon Ball plotting right there. So for this trick to work, Vegetto needed an opponent who was very strong but also very disposable (ex: it couldn't be Cell or Buu since they need to stick around). If we think of Vegetto as the DBM equivalent of Vegeta then Broly is the DBM equivalent of Android #19. I'm not sure who could have worked here. None of the official characters could make Vegetto sweat. Would any other non-plot essential character be ripe for a plot device power boost? Wouldn't we complain just as much if he randomly gave Bojack this "stronger over time" trait? And if Salagir invented someone out of thin air we'd be having the same conversation except replace "Broly fanwank" complaints with "OMG MARY SUE FAN CHARACTER!"
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Surely U3 Bardock would have became SSJ2 by now if that was the case. he likely would be years ahead of Vegeta when it comes to SSJ, and he had the motivation to ascend with Raichi still alive.Hellspawn28 wrote:U13 Vegeta most likely went SSj2 by training. Vegeta would never stop training even when he becomes emperor of the galaxy.
That too. Broly was necessary for change in more ways than one.TonyTheTiger wrote:Broly's redefined power set was just a plot device. Vegetto needed an opponent that would give him an opportunity to show off his power. Vegetto fights somebody strong, demonstrates his overwhelming power, wins the fight, everyone thinks Vegetto is invincible and has the tournament in the bag, and...uh oh...he lost! That's textbook Dragon Ball plotting right there. So for this trick to work, Vegetto needed an opponent who was very strong but also very disposable (ex: it couldn't be Cell or Buu since they need to stick around). If we think of Vegetto as the DBM equivalent of Vegeta then Broly is the DBM equivalent of Android #19. I'm not sure who could have worked here. None of the official characters could make Vegetto sweat and if Salagir invented someone out of thin air we'd be having the same conversation except replace "Broly fanwank" complaints with "OMG MARY SUE FAN CHARACTER!"
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Yeah, but the only reason Goku and Vegeta realized ascending was possible is because they started getting their asses kicked as Super Saiyans. The normal transformation into a Super Saiyan can happen naturally as we've seen with Goku, not to mention that the whole legend thing put it on everyone's radar as a possible achievement. But the ascension stuff was a very forced process. A specific course of events inspired the notion that going beyond was even possible and it took a lot of trial and error before they actually figured it out. So it's definitely possible that under different circumstances a Super Saiyan would never even think to try.FoolsGil wrote:Surely U3 Bardock would have became SSJ2 by now if that was the case. he likely would be years ahead of Vegeta when it comes to SSJ, and he had the motivation to ascend with Raichi still alive.Hellspawn28 wrote:U13 Vegeta most likely went SSj2 by training. Vegeta would never stop training even when he becomes emperor of the galaxy.
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I don't think the Earth was fully destroyed in U13. I remember the U13 chapter with Goku and Radditz, they left the Earth with life still on it. Makes me wonder if Gero is still alive in U13. He could still create Cell somehow.
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I wouldn't. My hatred for it is entirely based on the Broly fanwanking.TonyTheTiger wrote:Wouldn't we complain just as much if he randomly gave Bojack this "stronger over time" trait?
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Even if Vegeta learned to ascend without Goku I dont see him needing to surpass ASSJ.
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That just shows how incoherent your opinion is.Rocketman wrote:I wouldn't. My hatred for it is entirely based on the Broly fanwanking.TonyTheTiger wrote:Wouldn't we complain just as much if he randomly gave Bojack this "stronger over time" trait?
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My opinion is very coherent: I am anti-Broly. Any idea, any use, any plot, becomes irrevocably poisoned by Broly being attached to it. And if elected, I will ban Broly forevermore from this great franchise.rereboy wrote:That just shows how incoherent your opinion is.
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Rocketman wrote:My opinion is very coherent: I am anti-Broly. Any idea, any use, any plot, becomes irrevocably poisoned by Broly being attached to it. And if elected, I will ban Broly forevermore from this great franchise.rereboy wrote:That just shows how incoherent your opinion is.
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If a worth while DBZ game ever comes out and we play online I'll make sure I use Broly to wreck you lol.Rocketman wrote:My opinion is very coherent: I am anti-Broly. Any idea, any use, any plot, becomes irrevocably poisoned by Broly being attached to it. And if elected, I will ban Broly forevermore from this great franchise.rereboy wrote:That just shows how incoherent your opinion is.
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Unless of course he uses SSJ2 Goku, SSJ2 Vegeta, any form of Gotenks, any form of Buu, Mystic Gohan, Dabra, Beerus, Whis, Veggeto, almost anyone in GT, etc.goku the krump dancer wrote:If a worth while DBZ game ever comes out and we play online I'll make sure I use Broly to wreck you lol.Rocketman wrote:My opinion is very coherent: I am anti-Broly. Any idea, any use, any plot, becomes irrevocably poisoned by Broly being attached to it. And if elected, I will ban Broly forevermore from this great franchise.rereboy wrote:That just shows how incoherent your opinion is.
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Speaking of which. If they made Broly fit in the timeline then why couldn't just use Hatchiyack instead? Wouldn't all the Saiyan at the Budokai make his power grow. Least that makes sense compared to "Broly is cool"
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There is also Dabra's energy been used for Majin Boo, and #17 & #18 being cyborgs.rereboy wrote:The only thing in this fan manga that actually contradicts the manga is Cold being stronger than Freeza
You are right. I was under the impression it was in that chart that Salagir posted in a sticky post during the Bardock special, but I was wrong.(that stuff about 1st form Freeza's power isn't even in the fan manga, it was just a early and outdated idea of Salagir).
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He's going to use the Ghost Warriors now. I don't think this battle will last long now.
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"I killed this person!" "Oh, in that case I will send that exact same person at you!" Um, how is that a good idea? Silly Raichi.
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LmmfaoTrunksTrevelyan0064 wrote:"I killed this person!" "Oh, in that case I will send that exact same person at you!" Um, how is that a good idea? Silly Raichi.
I freakin called it though . Maaaybe they're stronger now though and Raichi might get disqualified for having "people" help him. Unless I missed something before.
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Well, the ghost warriors in the OVA were much stronger than the fighter they were emulating, weren't they?TrunksTrevelyan0064 wrote:"I killed this person!" "Oh, in that case I will send that exact same person at you!" Um, how is that a good idea? Silly Raichi.
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