Vegeta admitting Goku's better; does BoG rekindle any hope?

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Vegeta admitting Goku's better; does BoG rekindle any hope?

Post by Legendary Saiya-Jin » Fri May 30, 2014 7:12 pm

Do you think Vegeta's experience in BoG might have given him some hope again in being able to catch up to Goku and reawakening to his previous aspirations to finally outdo him? I don't mean in a malicious way like he used to; just probably for the sake of tradition of having been his rival for so long and perhaps having realised he finally achieved what Goku had in what may have helped give him strength.

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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Fri May 30, 2014 7:22 pm

Legendary Saiya-Jin wrote:Do you think Vegeta's experience in BoG might have given him some hope again in being able to catch up to Goku and reawakening to his previous aspirations to finally outdo him? I don't mean in a malicious way like he used to; just probably for the sake of tradition of having been his rival for so long and perhaps having realised he finally achieved what Goku had in what may have helped give him strength.
Personally, I dont think Vegeta is ever going to fully surpass Goku. He's always going to play second fiddle. That being said, theres nothing stopping him from having a moment such as his assault on Cell and Beerus.

That and with the possibility of a sequel to BOG and Toriyama liking the idea of Vegeta as a protagonist, I think its safe to say Vegeta will rise up here and there. Vegeta can admit Goku is the best, but that wont stop him from pushing himself in hopes he still may infact surpass Goku.
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Re: Vegeta admitting Goku's better; does BoG rekindle any ho

Post by B » Fri May 30, 2014 10:57 pm

I know that chronologically BoG is before the Kanzenban ending, but considering it was published/conceived a decade before, I always felt that was the take-away from the "perfect" end of the series. Vegeta conceding Goku's superiority isn't some sort of announcement of retirement. He simply no longer feels the need to or sees the point of fighting for his own selfish reasons. He begins to see Goku as a challenge and not an obstacle; an opponent, but not an enemy. Vegeta doesn't need to exert his power over people anymore.
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Post by Low Tone G » Sat May 31, 2014 5:26 am

Goku will always be better, but that doesn't mean that Vegeta must be incomparably worse (weaker) than him. Vegeta is proud to be the prince of all saiyans, the most powerful race of the universe, so he still has a reason to live and to become better and better.
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Post by Bullza » Sat May 31, 2014 9:39 am

I said before that Beerus should replace Vegeta as Goku's rival.

The whole Vegeta rivalry has been dragged out and his power is a complete joke now compared to Goku. Have Beerus be the rival from now on and let Goku play catch up for once.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat May 31, 2014 2:23 pm

Bullza wrote:I said before that Beerus should replace Vegeta as Goku's rival.

The whole Vegeta rivalry has been dragged out and his power is a complete joke now compared to Goku. Have Beerus be the rival from now on and let Goku play catch up for once.
Vegeta can easily catch up with Super Saiyan God, and I really doubt that he won't succeed in absorbing the form's power like Goku did. Especially when there are hints that this will actually happen in the near future, with Vegeta saying that he wants the form next time, Beerus saying that he could become a threat, and Toriyama saying that he wants Vegeta as the protagonist in the next movie.
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Re: Vegeta admitting Goku's better; does BoG rekindle any ho

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sat May 31, 2014 2:33 pm

Bullza wrote:I said before that Beerus should replace Vegeta as Goku's rival.

The whole Vegeta rivalry has been dragged out and his power is a complete joke now compared to Goku. Have Beerus be the rival from now on and let Goku play catch up for once.
With the way everything is moving, I'm willing to bet Goku and Vegeta will be taken as students under Beerus and/or Whis and trained by them.
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Re: Vegeta admitting Goku's better; does BoG rekindle any ho

Post by Bullza » Sat May 31, 2014 2:38 pm

That would just be retreading the same repetitive formula yet again. If he became a SSJ God then Goku would only become a SSJ God 2. Vegeta will always play second fiddle to Goku.

That whole rivalry should have died the moment Vegeta admitted Goku's superiority. Vegeta isn't even the same badass character he once was, now he's some comic relief character who sings and makes a fool out of himself and who looks in pots for people. He is now what Piccolo became in the Buu saga.

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