If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by hulkty » Fri May 30, 2014 9:43 pm

Does Toriyama only draw chibis and kids now? Those Naruto and Luffy picks made them look WAY too young... :/
Still cool though.
I want to see a Goku design from EVERY mangaka and compare them.

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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Fri May 30, 2014 10:28 pm

hulkty wrote:Does Toriyama only draw chibis and kids now? Those Naruto and Luffy picks made them look WAY too young... :/
Still cool though.
I want to see a Goku design from EVERY mangaka and compare them.
Eiichiro Oda (One Piece)
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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Fri May 30, 2014 10:31 pm

I really like that Yabuki one.
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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by Mewzard » Fri May 30, 2014 10:35 pm

If Masami Kurumada wrote Dragon Ball, it would have been a no-holds-bar Battle Shonen 24/7/365. Would have been an absolute bloodbath. No recurring villains or mercy, just brutal fist fights to the death, and badass attacks with a pile of bodies left in the Z Warriors' wake.

Goku'd be wearing more awesomely designed Saiyan armor and he'd eventually kill a god in an insane fight (yeah, we're getting close to that now, but we would have gotten that by 1991).

Also, SSJ God would look something like this:

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As for Yoshio Sawai, this is what SSJ3 Goku would look like:

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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat May 31, 2014 10:51 am

What if Takuya Mitsuda(Major and Buyuden author) wrote Db or even Akihisa Ikeda

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Re: If a different mangka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by Flame Dragon » Sat May 31, 2014 12:16 pm

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Lol No.
Masashi Kishimoto has shown himself to be a terrible writer. The War Arc is horrible and it revealed his real writing skill. Terrible writer.

Also One Piece used "friendship power" only during the Lucci fight, so no.
Naruto is poorly-written nowadays, yes, but not to the extent of DBZ. And I'm not sure what you're getting at with your statement about One Piece.
Even the Buu Saga is much better than the horrible 4th Ninja War Arc. Honestly that arc is godawful. DBZ never reached the bottom of the barrel as Naruto has done. In fact, the entirety of Dragon Ball is leagues above the War Arc writing.

Kishimoto sucks.

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Re: If a different mangka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by thatdbzguy » Sat May 31, 2014 1:21 pm

Flame Dragon wrote:DBZ never reached the bottom of the barrel
The Saiyan and Freeza arcs were just barely above the bottom of the barrel, the Cell saga defined a new bottom of the barrel, and the Buu saga definitely reached the bottom of the barrel.
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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by VegettoEX » Sat May 31, 2014 1:45 pm

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Re: If a different mangka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by DonZ » Sat May 31, 2014 3:42 pm

Flame Dragon wrote:
thatdbzguy wrote:
Lol No.
Masashi Kishimoto has shown himself to be a terrible writer. The War Arc is horrible and it revealed his real writing skill. Terrible writer.

Also One Piece used "friendship power" only during the Lucci fight, so no.
Naruto is poorly-written nowadays, yes, but not to the extent of DBZ. And I'm not sure what you're getting at with your statement about One Piece.
Even the Buu Saga is much better than the horrible 4th Ninja War Arc. Honestly that arc is godawful. DBZ never reached the bottom of the barrel as Naruto has done. In fact, the entirety of Dragon Ball is leagues above the War Arc writing.

Kishimoto sucks.
At least, while the Majin Buu arc did have A LOT of flaws here and there, and it's totally pointless and came out of nowhere, it's still pretty damn enjoyable. as for the 4th shinobi war.. oh god. i won't even try to describe how awful, boring it is.

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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sat May 31, 2014 3:49 pm

I think we we have gotten in the arc is fine. The problem is its way. too. damn. long. Seriously, the fight with Obito/Madara puts Goku VS Freeza to shame in terms of length. The whole battle and arc in general could have ended probably 15 chapters ago and maybe result in Kishimoto not admitting he didn't know how to kill his own villain. To sum up, the arc has just gone on for far too long.
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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by DonZ » Sat May 31, 2014 3:53 pm

^

Yeah, the arc's length or the pacing, is the reason why the enjoyment "section" is a total 0%. it's like nothing ever happening in this damn never-ending war >_>
as for being awful/poorly written, there's a lot of other reasons.

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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by FrogTrigger » Sat May 31, 2014 4:08 pm

I think Junji Ito could've made Cell hella creepy

Or Buu even

Now I wanna see Goku or someone vs Hellstar Remina

I mean it ate the fuckin moon!

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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sat May 31, 2014 4:36 pm

How bout Atsushi Okubo, author of Soul Eater?
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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by DonZ » Sat May 31, 2014 4:43 pm

Ok, how about Hiromu Arakawa (Fullmetal Alchemist) ? Maaan, this cow is a GENIUS!
probably my favorite mangaka of all time.

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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by Bullza » Sat May 31, 2014 5:03 pm

Naruto's a little dragged out at the moment but overall it's a far better manga than Dragon Ball as is One Piece.

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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by DonZ » Sat May 31, 2014 5:12 pm

Honestly, Naruto is just like Dragon Ball. both started off great, then slowly went downhill as the authors (Toriyama and Kishimoto) kept going. but i do agree that the best of Naruto is better than Dragon Ball's.
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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by Fionordequester » Sat May 31, 2014 5:15 pm

DonZ wrote:^

Yeah, the arc's length or the pacing, is the reason why the enjoyment "section" is a total 0%. it's like nothing ever happening in this damn never-ending war >_>
as for being awful/poorly written, there's a lot of other reasons.
Isn't that how war in general is though? I mean, I've never made it past when Sasuke's brother and that guy with the Shark Sword came in, messed up Kakashi, Guy, and that one women, but then almost got killed by Jiraiya, but, that actually sounds like a cool idea. To have an arc go on so long to reflect how miserable and seemingly never-ending war tends to be.
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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat May 31, 2014 5:20 pm

DonZ wrote:Honestly, Naruto is just like Dragon Ball. both started great, then slowly went downhill as the authors kept going. but i do agree that the best of Naruto is better than Dragon Ball's.
I disagree but gotta respect your opinion. To me Db only bad arc is Boo. While Naruto has much more.

What if the author of Mightest Disciple wrote Db

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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by ABED » Sat May 31, 2014 5:25 pm

I assume the writer would also be the illustrator, if so, I don't think the art would be for the better. I like the simplicity in Toriyama's art work. Sometimes stuff is too detailed it can be difficult to figure out who's doing what, but I've never found that problem with AT's work.
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Re: If a different mangaka wrote Dragon Ball

Post by DonZ » Sat May 31, 2014 5:34 pm

I don't think any other mangaka can write Dragon Ball without losing it's charm. maybe the closer one to do it is Eiichiro Oda, since Dragon Ball (mainly the original) and One Piece almost share the same atmosphere and style.

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