The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Cetra » Sat May 31, 2014 6:04 pm

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Cetra wrote:In the anime she has more than that and Rage Shenron would destroy 6 Level 100 Pokémon. There are only a few Pokémon that are ridiculously powerful such as Mewtwo or Arceus - storywise.
But isn't he weak against water?
That's not the problem. Dragon Ball characters are too strong, fast and resilient. I edited my post. Give her the legends like Kyogre and Palkia and she wins as they also have powers on a supernatural scale. Kyogre pretty much controls the sea and Palkia can even control Space. Then Suicune and such and everthings alright.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by cesarcoronel07 » Sat May 31, 2014 6:07 pm

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Cetra wrote:In the anime she has more than that and Rage Shenron would destroy 6 Level 100 Pokémon. There are only a few Pokémon that are ridiculously powerful such as Mewtwo or Arceus - storywise.
But isn't he weak against water?
That's not the problem. Dragon Ball characters are too strong, fast and resilient. I edited my post. Give her the legends like Kyogre and Palkia and she wins.
But if Rage Shenron is strong, how come he got defeated by rain?

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Cetra » Sat May 31, 2014 6:10 pm

It does not mean he has no weakness or is weak in general. You just cannot expect a Psyduck to defeat Rage Shenron with Water Gun. The Dragons all were a challenge for Goku but at the same time had to be defeated with strategy.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by cesarcoronel07 » Sat May 31, 2014 6:24 pm

Cetra wrote:It does not mean he has no weakness or is weak in general. You just cannot expect a Psyduck to defeat Rage Shenron with Water Gun. The Dragons all were a challenge for Goku but at the same time had to be defeated with strategy.
Well you're right, I guess Rage takes this.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sun Jun 01, 2014 4:26 pm

The Black Knight from Fire Emblem Path of Radiance (he has his blessed armor) vs. the Dragon Ball gauntlet in a Budokai match. How far does he go before losing via ringout (the armor protects him from all attacks not blessed by the goddess Ashera.)
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sun Jun 01, 2014 4:48 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:The Black Knight from Fire Emblem Path of Radiance (he has his blessed armor) vs. the Dragon Ball gauntlet in a Budokai match. How far does he go before losing via ringout (the armor protects him from all attacks not blessed by the goddess Ashera.)
Seeing as there is no way in hell Zelgius is going to keep up speed wise with almost anyone in DB, all they gotta do is yank off the armor. Just take the helmet off and go for a headshot.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sun Jun 01, 2014 6:52 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:The Black Knight from Fire Emblem Path of Radiance (he has his blessed armor) vs. the Dragon Ball gauntlet in a Budokai match. How far does he go before losing via ringout (the armor protects him from all attacks not blessed by the goddess Ashera.)
Seeing as there is no way in hell Zelgius is going to keep up speed wise with almost anyone in DB, all they gotta do is yank off the armor. Just take the helmet off and go for a headshot.
Way to spoil it :P
I specified ringout in this scenario. I'm wanting to know which of them can overcome his armor and Alondite to secure a ringout.

I'm not sure that the armor can be removed against his will anyway, at least not while blessed. That would be a good question to ask at a Q&A though.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Kamiccolo9 wrote:
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Kamiccolo9 wrote:The Black Knight from Fire Emblem Path of Radiance (he has his blessed armor) vs. the Dragon Ball gauntlet in a Budokai match. How far does he go before losing via ringout (the armor protects him from all attacks not blessed by the goddess Ashera.)
Seeing as there is no way in hell Zelgius is going to keep up speed wise with almost anyone in DB, all they gotta do is yank off the armor. Just take the helmet off and go for a headshot.
Way to spoil it :P
I specified ringout in this scenario. I'm wanting to know which of them can overcome his armor and Alondite to secure a ringout.

I'm not sure that the armor can be removed against his will anyway, at least not while blessed. That would be a good question to ask at a Q&A though.
Depends, who's he fighting first in this gauntlet?
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Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:08 pm

Shang Chi vs Any DB character pre Raditz(if it means anything Spiderman lost to Shang Chi)

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:20 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote: Depends, who's he fighting first in this gauntlet?
Just go by order of appearance in the manga. Or by strength of the fighters, from weakest to greatest.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:32 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
KentalSSJ6 wrote: Depends, who's he fighting first in this gauntlet?
Just go by order of appearance in the manga. Or by strength of the fighters, from weakest to greatest.
Seeing as all his strength comes form his armor and Alondite, id say Goku in his first Budokai would be enough to force him out of the ring.

I mean Ike was able to stop his charge and he's still just a normal (albeit skilled) human (then again Ike is broken as f*ck).
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hugo Boss » Sun Jun 01, 2014 9:18 pm

SS3 Goku (DBZ) vs Shiryu (Saint Seiya)

Strenght-wise
Speed-wise

Then, who could win?

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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:12 pm

Hugo Boss wrote:SS3 Goku (DBZ) vs Shiryu (Saint Seiya)

Strenght-wise
Speed-wise

Then, who could win?
Any of the Gold Saints can defeat Goku with little trouble. Those guys are well within DC character territory in terms of feats, speed, and strength.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:22 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:Shang Chi vs Any DB character pre Raditz(if it means anything Spiderman lost to Shang Chi)
Just to repost

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Post by DieHard » Mon Jun 02, 2014 2:45 am

KentalSSJ6 wrote:
Hugo Boss wrote:SS3 Goku (DBZ) vs Shiryu (Saint Seiya)

Strenght-wise
Speed-wise

Then, who could win?
Any of the Gold Saints can defeat Goku with little trouble. Those guys are well within DC character territory in terms of feats, speed, and strength.
How?They take a while to just climb a staircase and the strongest technique of the big boss could just destroy the roof of a marble house.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Jun 02, 2014 3:17 pm

Pui Pui vs. Er Xing Long (Haze Shenron)

Cell Saga Kuririn vs. Tullece after eating the fruit.

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Post by xmysticgohanx » Mon Jun 02, 2014 4:35 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:
Hugo Boss wrote:SS3 Goku (DBZ) vs Shiryu (Saint Seiya)

Strenght-wise
Speed-wise

Then, who could win?
Any of the Gold Saints can defeat Goku with little trouble. Those guys are well within DC character territory in terms of feats, speed, and strength.
In that case, Goku would win. SSJ2 Goku is a solar system+ buster and massively faster than light.
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Post by mmg86 » Mon Jun 02, 2014 5:32 pm

xmysticgohanx wrote:
KentalSSJ6 wrote:
Hugo Boss wrote:SS3 Goku (DBZ) vs Shiryu (Saint Seiya)

Strenght-wise
Speed-wise

Then, who could win?
Any of the Gold Saints can defeat Goku with little trouble. Those guys are well within DC character territory in terms of feats, speed, and strength.
In that case, Goku would win. SSJ2 Goku is a solar system+ buster and massively faster than light.
In case of... what? The "evidence standards" that make SS2 Goku that powerful also make normal Silver Saints (lightyears below the Golds) ludicrously faster than light (3333333333 times is the figure i get from a basic calc) and the generic punch of any Gold Saint universe level. Shiryu at his best is lightyears more powerful than the Gold Saints. They actually aint anywhere near that powerful (the Saints nor the DB cast) if we actually use some common sense, but if "anything goes"...

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Post by cesarcoronel07 » Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:27 pm

I don't know if this fight has been done before, but oh well... Pan GT (Shadow Dragon Saga) Vs. Goku Base (Buu Saga)

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Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:39 pm

IMO:

Pan >>> Android 20 > base Goku [Buu arc]
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