Goku's Feats

[White Oni]

"like a god" Oh AT, humble humble AT.

For what it's worth, in Japanese Piccolo just says Goku and Freeza are "monsters".

Interesting, thanks for clarifying herms.

[KentalSSJ6]

Wouldn't Goku's physical strength feat being punching through Kaio's planet in Battle of Gods? That is if you believe smaller = denser. Dont we have a equation or formula showing how dense it would be?

[IgnorantFuniFan]

Goku survived booty-contact with lava when he was fighting freeza

[White Oni]

The thing that someone like Choud Gohan could probably tank a solar system buster.
But he was easily knocked out by a highly suppressed beers.

The amount of force going into these knock out blows, against opponents that could easily tank the force of a solar system buster, would have to be absurd. (this is another reason I believe their movements are FTL, it makes sense of this.)

To put this into better perspective, let's scale things down a bit.



Frieza's death ray is vastly stronger than Vegeta's planet busting galec gun.

Ssj Goku tanks this concentrated blast of energy to the face like it was nothing.

Yet, an even stronger goku is seriously hurt and knocked out by physical blows.

The amount of force that would need to be in a physical blow, in order to match the amount of force in a stronger than planet busting blast, like Freeza's death ray, would have to be unimaginably huge.

The force of a physical punch or hit is relational to its speed.

This means that the only way to make sense of force being exerted by fighters punches in the show, is to assume their fists are flying and incredibly speed.

With this cosidered lets looks at some of the moments in DBZ and try to just think about how absurdly fast they must be moving.

18 here, in order to seriously harm and move a fighter far above namek Goku, must be flying at such an insanely fast speed it's almost mind boggling.

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Note that the fact that she flew her whole body at a high enough speed to harm him like this means that her full power punches/kicks must be FAR stronger, and they are, as we see, here.

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[White Oni]

Another feat from BoG is when gohan effortlessly deflects bullets with his finger. Note that he didn't even realize it was a real gun.

Bullets move from just about the speed of sound to up to 2 times the speed of sound.( I'm going with the lower end here,since it looked like a weak fire arm." That being said, in BoG we'd expect to hear sonic booms ever time someone like gohan moved like that. Yet we don't so the "no sonic boom = no speed of sound" theory has been debunked.

[Rocketman]

Sonic booms happen whenever anything, no matter the size, breaks the speed of sound. The crack of a whip is a small sonic boom.

[Hitiro]

Like Rocketman said. The size, duration and effectiveness of a sonic boom is related to the size of the object breaking the sound barrier. A human breaking the sound barrier is nothing like a jet fighter breaking the sound barrier. Bullets and whips are the same with that regard, they only produce small and very short sonic booms.

[White Oni]

I'm aware of and completely agree with the above 2 comments.

I was just bringing it up because someone was arguing that we'd hear or see sound effects written for sonic booms if z fighters move faster than sound.

[DieHard]

Well as a kid he tanked a blast of lightning from Muten Roshi disguised as Jackie Chun, and lightning is roughly 5 times hotter than the surface of the sun at around 53 thousand degrees.

Humans can survive being hit by lightning. THEREFORE HUMANS CAN SURVIVE THE SURFACE OF THE SUN

You know thats a stupid comparison.

[White Oni]

Well as a kid he tanked a blast of lightning from Muten Roshi disguised as Jackie Chun, and lightning is roughly 5 times hotter than the surface of the sun at around 53 thousand degrees.

Humans can survive being hit by lightning. THEREFORE HUMANS CAN SURVIVE THE SURFACE OF THE SUN

You know thats a stupid comparison.

Very few people take a direct strike from lightning and those that do get classified under that catagory and live weren't hit directl but through a metal instrument. (As far as I'm aware.)

A direct strike would melt right through your body and melt the spot of direct impact away instantaneously.
The few that have been classified as "direct hits" were holding metal items and thst item took the blunt of the initial impact, so what they really experience is a partial surge (which is stupid deadly but not anywhere near what it's be like to take the blunt of the initial hit.)

I read somewhere that one of the people classified said his metal fork took the direct impact and literally melted away into nothing in his hand.

So, if a superhero does tank a direct hit on his skin and doesn't feel a thing, that's a pretty damn impressive feat.

[Rocketman]

Very few people take a direct strike from lightning and those that do get classified under that catagory and live weren't hit directl but through a metal instrument. (As far as I'm aware.)

A direct strike would melt right through your body and melt the spot of direct impact away instantaneously.
The few that have been classified as "direct hits" were holding metal items and thst item took the blunt of the initial impact, so what they really experience is a partial surge (which is stupid deadly but not anywhere near what it's be like to take the blunt of the initial hit.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Sullivan

Dude was struck by lightning seven times.

[White Oni]

Very few people take a direct strike from lightning and those that do get classified under that catagory and live weren't hit directl but through a metal instrument. (As far as I'm aware.)

A direct strike would melt right through your body and melt the spot of direct impact away instantaneously.
The few that have been classified as "direct hits" were holding metal items and thst item took the blunt of the initial impact, so what they really experience is a partial surge (which is stupid deadly but not anywhere near what it's be like to take the blunt of the initial hit.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Sullivan

Dude was struck by lightning seven times.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/nature ... htning.htm

Read that^

There are different types of "lighting strikes" and to my knowledge no one has lived through taking a direct strike with initial contact on the skin and not on something else.

[KentalSSJ6]

Which is supposedly which he does for a extended duration. It's not a instant blast, he tanks a continuous current.

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He tanks the current until accidentally gazing at the moon and becoming a Oozaru. In the anime he's hit with the attack for over 3 straight minutes.

3 straight minutes of continuous direct contact with lightning and he's absolutely fine afterwards.

[Saiyan007]

That should count for a feat for goku as well

Capable of physically smashing planets with ease

[Kamiccolo9]

Which is supposedly which he does for a extended duration. It's not a instant blast, he tanks a continuous current.

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He tanks the current until accidentally gazing at the moon and becoming a Oozaru. In the anime he's hit with the attack for over 3 straight minutes.

3 straight minutes of continuous direct contact with lightning and he's absolutely fine afterwards.

Bankoku-Bikkuri-Shou [International Surprise Prize]
First Appearance: Chapter 50
Category: ki manipulation
People: Jacky Chun
Special Characteristics: A technique where he puts his hands together and concentrates his nerves, amplifying in the palms of his hands the faint electric pulse that flows through his body, and then fires at his opponent. Those hit by the attack have their body go numb from the intense electric shock, paralyzing them, and they will die like that if they do not surrender. In his entire life, Kame-sennin has only used this technique against two people. One was Goku, and the other one was Goku’s grandfather Son Gohan. It’s his ace in the hole technique, which he brought out during the finals of the 21st Tenkaichi Budoukai. (Daizenshuu 2, p.204)

There is nothing that indicates that Roshi is shooting lightning at him. Sure, he's shocking him, but theres a big difference in generating electric shocks and generating bolts of lightning.

[dario03]

The thing that someone like Choud Gohan could probably tank a solar system buster.
But he was easily knocked out by a highly suppressed beers.

The amount of force going into these knock out blows, against opponents that could easily tank the force of a solar system buster, would have to be absurd. (this is another reason I believe their movements are FTL, it makes sense of this.)

To put this into better perspective, let's scale things down a bit.



Freeza's death ray is vastly stronger than Vegeta's planet busting galec gun.

Ssj Goku tanks this concentrated blast of energy to the face like it was nothing.

Yet, an even stronger goku is seriously hurt and knocked out by physical blows.

The amount of force that would need to be in a physical blow, in order to match the amount of force in a stronger than planet busting blast, like Freeza's death ray, would have to be unimaginably huge.

The force of a physical punch or hit is relational to its speed.

This means that the only way to make sense of force being exerted by fighters punches in the show, is to assume their fists are flying and incredibly speed.

With this cosidered lets looks at some of the moments in DBZ and try to just think about how absurdly fast they must be moving.

18 here, in order to seriously harm and move a fighter far above namek Goku, must be flying at such an insanely fast speed it's almost mind boggling.

Spoiler:

Note that the fact that she flew her whole body at a high enough speed to harm him like this means that her full power punches/kicks must be FAR stronger, and they are, as we see, here.

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Or they just have higher attack and defense stats in ki/energy than physical or physical amped by ki. Kind of like how in some rpg games you can have a character that has low physical attack and defense but high magic attack and defense.

[Bullza]

Another feat from BoG is when gohan effortlessly deflects bullets with his finger. Note that he didn't even realize it was a real gun.

That's really nothing special Roshi was catching machine gun bullets fired at him from a few feet away.

[Bullza]

There were a couple feats in Dragon Ball, I remember Goku got shot at in the face with a Sniper Rifle and he just rubbed his cheek. He got hit point black with a rocket and just shook that off as well.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

That should count for a feat for goku as well

Capable of physically smashing planets with ease

The planets weren't destroyed though.

[Rocketman]

3 straight minutes of continuous direct contact with lightning and he's absolutely fine afterwards.

That's not lightning.