Goku's Feats

[goku the krump dancer]

Pardon the ignorance (if any) but what's the difference between a lightning strike and an electric zap? If any? I mean besides voltage obviously.

Nothing a quick google search can't solve but still.

[xmysticgohanx]

So should I use the Solar Flare dodging feat as proof for light speed? I really don't see why people believe the sonic boom argument, this is DB not real life.

[Rocketman]

Pardon the ignorance (if any) but what's the difference between a lightning strike and an electric zap? If any? I mean besides voltage obviously.

Scale. The shock you get from static electricity is a miniature lightning bolt, but it's disingenuous to shock yourself on a doorknob and then go "i just got hit by lightning!!"

Roshi's technique was not lightning. It was more like he tazed Goku.

[dbzfan7]

That should count for a feat for goku as well

Capable of physically smashing planets with ease

I'd throw in a speed feat. Holy shit he's moving fast.

[Saiyan007]

That should count for a feat for goku as well

Capable of physically smashing planets with ease

The planets weren't destroyed though.

The planets were obviously destroyed what did you think he did to them?

It's as clear as day

[DBZGTKOSDH]

The planets were obviously destroyed what did you think he did to them?

It's as clear as day

When planets are destroyed, they blow up, meaning that there is fire & rocks going in every direction. These didn't blow up, and we can even see that the smoke just covered them.

[DieHard]

You can see is passing through the planets,so yes he destroyed them.

[Saiyan007]

The planets were obviously destroyed what did you think he did to them?

It's as clear as day

When planets are destroyed, they blow up, meaning that there is fire & rocks going in every direction. These didn't blow up, and we can even see that the smoke just covered them.

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They obviously blew up why do you think whis stopped him?

[VegettoEX]

Making faces at people is an inappropriate response. May I remind you all to please type properly and with respect for your fellow fans? Thank you.

[White Oni]

Which is supposedly which he does for a extended duration. It's not a instant blast, he tanks a continuous current.

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He tanks the current until accidentally gazing at the moon and becoming a Oozaru. In the anime he's hit with the attack for over 3 straight minutes.

3 straight minutes of continuous direct contact with lightning and he's absolutely fine afterwards.

I'm not so sure that's lightning, looks more like an electric shock(which is vastly different) like other have said.

[White Oni]

There were a couple feats in Dragon Ball, I remember Goku got shot at in the face with a Sniper Rifle and he just rubbed his cheek. He got hit point black with a rocket and just shook that off as well.

Wait, really? Can I see the roshi scan?

If true, this is hilarious, as wonder woman, someone who has faster combat speed than the flash, is defined by one of her top combat speed feats, deflecting machine gun bullets. (Though she was blindfolded)

[Hellspawn28]

That should count for a feat for goku as well

Capable of physically smashing planets with ease

People seem always forget that this scene was gag scene. It was played for laughs. Some fans take everything too seriously.

[White Oni]

That should count for a feat for goku as well

Capable of physically smashing planets with ease

People seem always forget that this scene was gag scene. It was played for laughs. Some fans take everything too seriously.

While I agree that it's undeniable gag, this doesn't sound anywhere near unrealistic, as preGod ssj3 Goku easily blew a massive hole in K.Kai's planet, just by punching in its direction.

[White Oni]

To elaborate, there are 3 key factors in determining impact.

1) Mass
2) Speed
3) durability/density of the object being hit.
For example:
Here's an example of planetary impact.

This is a simulation of an asteroid called Apophis.

Note 3 things:

Mass: MASSIVE! 1050 feet across

Speed: 68740 mph

Density of object: Earth

Impact:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeY2W6cTflY

Notice that in the simulation video, nothing like a giant hole (with and entrance and exist) occurs to or planet.

Simulation 2 Wave force of Goku's fist vs KK planet.

Now note that the K.Kai's planet has a far higher gravity to it. This means that it is FAR more dense and thus harder to destroy upon impact.



Mass: 1/3 a foot.

Speed: ?

Density of object hit: "So, Dk = 1,17*10^10 kg/m^3, while density of Earth (De) is 5,5153*10^3 kg/m^3, so the density of King Kai's planet is around 2 millions of times higher than the desnity of Earth, and Goku punched a whole hole throughout this material."
I can't do this sorta math so here's someone who APPARENTLY can.

Spoiler:

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... 00#p684373

Impact:

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http://youtu.be/imiryMHYPB0?t=2m27s

Something important to note is that Goku's body stopped his fist from moving through the planet, thus most of the damage wasn't even contact damage but wave force damage, which is insane.

The amount of speed needed to make sense of this is unimaginable... Just something to think about.

[Rocketman]

Punching a hole through a planet is completely hurfdurf anyway. Goku's feats are bananas and his power is necktie, because we're already in magical made-up land.

[Kamiccolo9]

Punching a hole through a planet is completely hurfdurf anyway. Goku's feats are bananas and his power is necktie, because we're already in magical made-up land.

Totally stealing this. Pretty much sums up what I've been saying this whole thread.

[Saiyan007]

That should count for a feat for goku as well

Capable of physically smashing planets with ease

People seem always forget that this scene was gag scene. It was played for laughs. Some fans take everything too seriously.

i didn't find it funny at all it' still a feat regardless so....

[White Oni]

Punching a hole through a planet is completely hurfdurf anyway. Goku's feats are bananas and his power is necktie, because we're already in magical made-up land.

This can be said about nearly any superhero... It's fiction.

Also, no one's saying otherwise.

Anyone who looks at a story with dog presidents, a universal language, shape shifting people, and planet busters left and right, and says "This all makes sense! This is REAL life!" is probably clinically insane.

The purpose of threads like this, and most threads on this whole sub-forum, is to suspend disbelief and try and make the most sense of things.

If you think that's pointless, that's cool, I get it, but most of the things people do are pretty pointless so... I mean, you even spending the time to comment on this can be seen as pointless...

[Rocketman]

It's not suspending disbelief that I think is pointless, it's whenever people start dragging in scientific equations and shit in service to their feat fetish.

[White Oni]

It's not suspending disbelief that I think is pointless, it's whenever people start dragging in scientific equations and shit in service to their feat fetish.

If you can explain to me how we're supposed to make sense of feats without applying science, that'd be nice.

I mean, the main purpose of gathering feats is to better understand the damage output, among other things, a fighter is capable of.

So if AT says something like "Goku's strong enough to punch through a planet", I don't see anything wrong with applying science to this, to get an idea what this means for Goku's strength output.