Toriyama was heavily involved in the story, so if he pictured Goku living more than normally, he would have done it. But then again, we don't know exactly how much Toriyama was involved, and that was before he read the manga again and became familiar with the story again.dbzfan7 wrote:DBO is a dead online game. It doesn't matter what it said. It's not even listed in the new timelines at all.
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James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Regardless of Toriyama's involvement, DBO was an MMORPG and the story was written with that fact in mind. Hence the time traveling villains and all the time travel trips that conveniently allow you to revisit manga events and manga characters. Not to mention all the stupid things like Super Saiyan humans and Buu's and Freeza's species.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Toriyama was heavily involved in the story, so if he pictured Goku living more than normally, he would have done it. But then again, we don't know exactly how much Toriyama was involved, and that was before he read the manga again and became familiar with the story again.dbzfan7 wrote:DBO is a dead online game. It doesn't matter what it said. It's not even listed in the new timelines at all.
My point is, if DBO had been a manga, surely many things about it would have been written differently.
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Time-traveling was introduced in the manga, the Super Saiyan humans are Saiyan descendants that can transform with the help of the Dragon Balls, and there is a full back-story for why there is a Majin race.
As for Freeza's race, I think you confused it with Dragon Ball Heroes, because DBO doesn't have them.
As for Freeza's race, I think you confused it with Dragon Ball Heroes, because DBO doesn't have them.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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He could easily forgot that Goku got the Elder Kaioshins life, or simply just had Kaioshin years converted into Saiyan years.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Toriyama was heavily involved in the story, so if he pictured Goku living more than normally, he would have done it. But then again, we don't know exactly how much Toriyama was involved, and that was before he read the manga again and became familiar with the story again.dbzfan7 wrote:DBO is a dead online game. It doesn't matter what it said. It's not even listed in the new timelines at all.
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Which is what I pointed out in my 2nd sentence.dbzfan7 wrote:He could easily forgot that Goku got the Elder Kaioshins life, or simply just had Kaioshin years converted into Saiyan years.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Toriyama was heavily involved in the story, so if he pictured Goku living more than normally, he would have done it. But then again, we don't know exactly how much Toriyama was involved, and that was before he read the manga again and became familiar with the story again.dbzfan7 wrote:DBO is a dead online game. It doesn't matter what it said. It's not even listed in the new timelines at all.
But still, I don't see Goku getting Kaioshin's years. If he had, I'm sure that someone would have said it. And plus, why would Goku want to train Oob to make him his successor? He didn't want to train him only for their fight.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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I know. I was just clarifying further.DBZGTKOSDH wrote: Which is what I pointed out in my 2nd sentence.
But still, I don't see Goku getting Kaioshin's years. If he had, I'm sure that someone would have said it. And plus, why would Goku want to train Oob to make him his successor? He didn't want to train him only for their fight.
I don't either. I doubt Toriyama would do it that way. Not even he would make Goku live for hundreds of years more.
Well Vegeta said Goku taking Oob had nothing to do with protecting the Earth. It seems to me the whole successor thing is a mere afterthought. Sure he can be one, but Goku's primary focus was just to get a sparring partner.
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Even Goku said that his main reason for training Uub was for their rematch.dbzfan7 wrote:
Well Vegeta said Goku taking Oob had nothing to do with protecting the Earth. It seems to me the whole successor thing is a mere afterthought. Sure he can be one, but Goku's primary focus was just to get a sparring partner.
I don't think it was an afterthought on his part so much as just an excuse Goku could give his family to make the departure sting a bit less. "I'm going to take this boy to train him so that he can help protect the world when he gets older" works better than "I'm going to take this boy to train him so that when he gets strong he and I can fight".Chapter: 519 (DBZ 325), P13.6
Goku: “Hey, Oob. Once your training is complete, we’ll have a match again, properly this time! [ ] To tell the truth, this is my number one objective!”
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Fighting him was his main goal, but making him his successor was also another goal he had.dbzfan7 wrote:Well Vegeta said Goku taking Oob had nothing to do with protecting the Earth. It seems to me the whole successor thing is a mere afterthought. Sure he can be one, but Goku's primary focus was just to get a sparring partner.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Pretty much what you said. The whole successor bit was merely just a tiny bonus. It's really all about the fighting strong guys. Even if Oob didn't want to be his successor, it wouldn't matter so long as Goku gets his sparring partner.Darkprince410 wrote:I don't think it was an afterthought on his part so much as just an excuse Goku could give his family to make the departure sting a bit less. "I'm going to take this boy to train him so that he can help protect the world when he gets older" works better than "I'm going to take this boy to train him so that when he gets strong he and I can fight".
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I can not believe what I'm reading here.... Do you really consider Goku to be that selfish, as he took Uub to be one who can fight?
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Of course he is selfish... Why do you think he let Piccolo and Vegeta live? Because he wanted a rival. Even though that actually puts Earth in danger.Low Tone G wrote:I can not believe what I'm reading here.... Do you really consider Goku to be that selfish, as he took Uub to be one who can fight?