FUNimation's Top 10 Best Fathers Includes... Goku?!

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Re: FUNimation's Top 10 Best Fathers Includes... Goku?!

Post by RandomGuy96 » Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:09 pm

No one. Gohan isn't a fighter. So Goku is strongest fighter. But that's a different debate for in universe
Gohan and Gotenks can finger flick Goku, therefore he's not the strongest being in the universe. Simple.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Re: FUNimation's Top 10 Best Fathers Includes... Goku?!

Post by TheGmGoken » Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:12 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:
No one. Gohan isn't a fighter. So Goku is strongest fighter. But that's a different debate for in universe
Gohan and Gotenks can finger flick Goku, therefore he's not the strongest being in the universe. Simple.
In universe discussion. This is NOT the place.
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Re: FUNimation's Top 10 Best Fathers Includes... Goku?!

Post by RandomGuy96 » Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:13 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:
No one. Gohan isn't a fighter. So Goku is strongest fighter. But that's a different debate for in universe
Gohan and Gotenks can finger flick Goku, therefore he's not the strongest being in the universe. Simple.
In universe discussion. This is NOT the place.
There is no discussion to be had.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Re: FUNimation's Top 10 Best Fathers Includes... Goku?!

Post by TheGmGoken » Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:16 pm

Indeed there is. But not here.
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Post by Ringworm128 » Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:05 pm

I'm more surprised Gendo made the list.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:26 am

TheGmGoken wrote:Indeed there is. But not here.
No, there isn't.
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RandomGuy96 wrote:
dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Re: FUNimation's Top 10 Best Fathers Includes... Goku?!

Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:29 am

RandomGuy96 wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:Indeed there is. But not here.
No, there isn't.
You making this go longer than needed. The topic is best Father by Funimation. I'll be glad to explain myself but not here. Take it to Pm or start a topic.
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Re: FUNimation's Top 10 Best Fathers Includes... Goku?!

Post by Smochi » Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:57 am

I personally wouldn't want Goku as my biological father, but maybe he represents more than parenthood on the biological level? He was a hero and source of comfort to viewers for generations, and Dragonball did lead to a lot of the anime we love today. Maybe while he"s not the best father to Gohan and Goten, he does deserve the spot for what he represents?
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Re: FUNimation's Top 10 Best Fathers Includes... Goku?!

Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:16 am

TheGmGoken wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:Indeed there is. But not here.
No, there isn't.
You making this go longer than needed. The topic is best Father by Funimation. I'll be glad to explain myself but not here. Take it to Pm or start a topic.
There is nothing to explain. Gohan and Gotenks are far stronger than Goku, which is outright stated in plain words repeatedly, so he's not the strongest in the universe.
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RandomGuy96 wrote:
dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Re: FUNimation's Top 10 Best Fathers Includes... Goku?!

Post by Flame Dragon » Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:30 am

Who cares? It's not like Toei or Toriyama will actually ever allow Gohan to... *gasp* actually be better than <3Gokuuu$.

Trust me, even putting power aside, if Buu Saga Goku and Mystic Gohan fought, they would have found a way to make Goku win.
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Re: FUNimation's Top 10 Best Fathers Includes... Goku?!

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:09 pm

And the 'best father' bit has...what...to do with whether or not you want Goku to have been the strongest or not? That and, while I do hate the Goku focus the franchise takes at times, he...kind of is the main character, so I fail to see why it's so surprising that he gets so much either...
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Re: FUNimation's Top 10 Best Fathers Includes... Goku?!

Post by MediaFanGirl93 » Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:59 pm

I can't say that Goku is a bad father, but he's not father of the year either. He does care for his sons and is a good dad when he's actually around.
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