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Post by Rukura » Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:51 pm

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Flame Dragon wrote:The story of this game has the potential to be either amazing or godawful. Hopefully the former.
List bad Dimps' games aside from Sonic 4? You might find one or two but overall they're spectacularly done because Dimps unlike Spike is a highly competent developer team and focus on quality over quantity.

Edit: Damn, this game should be released for Vita too!
While I haven't played it myself, Budokai 2's story mode is generally disliked. Just playing devil's advocate, since I do think everything about this is looking very promising. (For what it's worth, I actually enjoyed Sonic 4. Then again, Unleashed makes anything else look good)

They're already having to work on last-gen ports, I don't think any of us really wants them to have to make another version of this.
goku the krump dancer wrote:Looking at still images, the graphics have such a Raging Blast 2 feel to em, idk why I get that vibe.
The clothes, especially the pants. I'm not joking, I actually do think they look like 'em but with a good shading instead of Raging Blast 2's. Definitely not the characters themselves or the faces, though.
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Post by InfernalVegito » Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:02 pm

goku the krump dancer wrote:Looking at still images, the graphics have such a Raging Blast 2 feel to em, idk why I get that vibe.
You're not alone on that. The models, especially that new what-if character and the rocky background stage in this new scan remind me heavily of RB2.
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Post by dualist » Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:39 pm

Just great, include stuff from DBO for a damn fighting game. If anything, I'm even more irritated with the game. I'm genuinely happy for the folks who are encouraged by this, I only wish I had the same level of enthusiasm.
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Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:55 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:This is Chaos punishment(who quit Kanzenshuu) words. We discussing Dbz games. He explains how Dimps is overrated in many places.
How exactly is Dimps overrated? You didnt make that clear. Burst Limit outsold all the Raging Blast games and it was a launch title and how does more respected levels of quality from a technical objective view make them overrated? You act as if they underdeliver and get away with it. They don't. Most of the hardcore DBZ game players like Underloardtico play Budokai for the combo depth and freedom to expand on the engine through its utilities - which requires skill to do. In Raging Blast all the combos look exactly the same no matter who plays it.
TheGmGoken wrote:Timing. Use of attacks to makes new attacks. Not much skill but still basis skill.

No it doesnt, you cant invent anything new chains in RB. All the phases in those QTE moves will always have the same outcome and don't give you the space for any real set ups. You cant actually chain them after they end because they're cut scenes. If you have to dash up to your opponent after they fly off that isnt a combo. Where as in Burst limit you can side step, cancel beams, juggle and launch all within the same chain.
dualist wrote:Just great, include stuff from DBO for a damn fighting game.
They're just taking the story elements that were never used outside it. Whats wrong with that?
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Zephyr wrote:The fandom's collective fetishizing of "moments" is also ridiculous to me. No, not everyone needs a fucking "shine" moment. If that's all you want, then all you want is fanservice, rather than an actual coherent story. And of course those aren't mutually exclusive; you could have a coherent story with "shine" moments! But if a story is perfectly coherent (and I'm really not seeing any compelling arguments that this one is anything but, despite constantly recurring, really poorly reasoned, attempts to argue otherwise), and you're bemoaning the lack of "shine" moments as a reason for the story's poor quality, then you're letting your thirst for "shine" moments obfuscate your ability to detect basic storytelling when it's right in front of you.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:03 pm

This is fairly irrelevant since we've already seen Trunks as a Super Saiyan, but I can't help but be a little excited at the chance to officially see him transform in his DBO outfit.
Playing DBO and watching him get beat up and outrun because he never transformed seemed like lame Toei writing. :/
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Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:13 pm

Rukura wrote:While I haven't played it myself, Budokai 2's story mode is generally disliked.

Only because people hated it for the fact it was different, and required some actual thinking - even though its what people beg for today. Smh. I might be the only person who actually loved it.
goku the krump dancer wrote:Looking at still images, the graphics have such a Raging Blast 2 feel to em, idk why I get that vibe.
The clothes, especially the pants. I'm not joking, I actually do think they look like 'em but with a good shading instead of Raging Blast 2's. Definitely not the characters themselves or the faces, though.[/quote]
Its because of how overglossy the models are. To me, the models look more like Battle of Z's with actual effort put into them.
Hellspawn28 wrote:If you can create your own story mode then I wonder you can share them to your friends. Fans can finally have Broli kill the hell out of everyone :lol:!
Yeah, I really hope they go for a somewhat DBH path where you get a HUB station and you get to go through different scenarios involving what-if certain events were altered in the storymode on multiple pathes and you either have to play them out as they change or you have to "fix" history. Like say Freeza actually kills Goku, then you have to be the one to beat Freeza and bring Goku back to life. Or If SPC beats Gohan you have to stop Cell. Etc, though not in a predictable self-insert fashion, but some how having fights end differently depending on how you act in them.
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Zephyr wrote:The fandom's collective fetishizing of "moments" is also ridiculous to me. No, not everyone needs a fucking "shine" moment. If that's all you want, then all you want is fanservice, rather than an actual coherent story. And of course those aren't mutually exclusive; you could have a coherent story with "shine" moments! But if a story is perfectly coherent (and I'm really not seeing any compelling arguments that this one is anything but, despite constantly recurring, really poorly reasoned, attempts to argue otherwise), and you're bemoaning the lack of "shine" moments as a reason for the story's poor quality, then you're letting your thirst for "shine" moments obfuscate your ability to detect basic storytelling when it's right in front of you.

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Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:14 pm

I love Budokai 2 story mode. It's the second best besides Tenkaichi 2.

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Post by dbboxkaifan » Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:17 pm

Rukura wrote:While I haven't played it myself, Budokai 2's story mode is generally disliked.
It's disliked because people prefer the 'normal' edition than a board-game type.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:23 pm

I didn't dislike the Budokai 2 story mode because it was different. I disliked it because it just felt...awkward...especially coming off of how awesome the story mode for Budokai 1 was.

Granted, I'm going on memories for both of these, as I haven't played either of those games, especially 2 (which was my first PS2 game), in yeaaaarrrrrrssss. So I may feel differently if I ever re-visit them.
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Post by Quebaz » Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:28 pm

Gonna be the odd one here and say that I loved Budokai 2's story mode. Specially those special interactions the characters had (the ones where the character models appeared, the other ones are pretty lame). I actually wish it made a return, just at least make more sense (I mean, you can't play with Teen Gohan? BUT HE'S ONE OF THE MAIN HEROES!).
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:41 pm

I was somewhat disappointed that Bandai Namco for Budokai 2 made the NGC version exclusive with Japanese audio whereas PS2 sadly featured the FUNimation English voices which I always try to avoid in every Dragon Ball game I play.

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Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:45 pm

Quebaz wrote:Gonna be the odd one here and say that I loved Budokai 2's story mode. Specially those special interactions the characters had (the ones where the character models appeared, the other ones are pretty lame). I actually wish it made a return, just at least make more sense (I mean, you can't play with Teen Gohan? BUT HE'S ONE OF THE MAIN HEROES!).
Beat you to it! Budokai 2 story is the amazing. As I've said it's second only to Tenkaichi 2 story. You can play with Teen Gohan just not Kid Gohan who's not in game

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Post by dualist » Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:02 pm

dualist wrote:Just great, include stuff from DBO for a damn fighting game.
They're just taking the story elements that were never used outside it. Whats wrong with that?[/quote]

Nothing really wrong with it, just disappointed that they are taking story elements from DBO instead of actually releasing DBO itself. Don't mind me though, I'm just extremely bitter that DBO never made it to the states and that we continue to get a constant barrage of fighting games.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:06 pm

I think people won't hate Budokai 2's story mode so much if it made sense. We got Majin Freeza and Majin Cell, then why do you need Majin Vegeta? The story mode also seem like that Goku defeated everyone when you can choose anyone to kill anyone. You can have Tenshinhan kill Dabra if you wanted too.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:06 pm

At least some of that stuff does seem to be getting re-used at all though. I was afraid all of that great story material was going to go down the drain.
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Post by Zidiane » Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:20 pm

dualist wrote:Nothing really wrong with it, just disappointed that they are taking story elements from DBO instead of actually releasing DBO itself. Don't mind me though, I'm just extremely bitter that DBO never made it to the states and that we continue to get a constant barrage of fighting games.
Well, MMO's are hella expensive. Us getting it wouldn't have been just a simple matter of translating it. Even if we got it, it still would have shut down. I'm really glad that elements of DBO are making it to the states though.
Hellspawn28 wrote:I think people won't hate Budokai 2's story mode so much if it made sense. We got Majin Freeza and Majin Cell, then why do you need Majin Vegeta? The story mode also seem like that Goku defeated everyone when you can choose anyone to kill anyone. You can have Tenshinhan kill Dabra if you wanted too.
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We KNOW certain characters can't beat certain other characters. It's established. But games, when given the chance to give us some interesting stories, I'm willing to let them. I mean, what about all the what if stories that have, like, Bardock beating Frieza? Or somebody else beating somebody else? Does it really matter? No. We know the story already. This is for extra entertainment, not to reenact the manga/anime. If you want that, just re read/watch the dang thing.

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Post by goku the krump dancer » Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:44 pm

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goku the krump dancer wrote:Looking at still images, the graphics have such a Raging Blast 2 feel to em, idk why I get that vibe.
You're not alone on that. The models, especially that new what-if character and the rocky background stage in this new scan remind me heavily of RB2.
Rukura wrote: The clothes, especially the pants. I'm not joking, I actually do think they look like 'em but with a good shading instead of Raging Blast 2's. Definitely not the characters themselves or the faces, though.
Yeah I feel like like its mostly with the "new guy" as well, Trunk's old jacket just doesn't look natural on him. Almost like you can't take it off similar to some of the old American made DBZ toys. It just looks weird sometimes.
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Post by kidtrunksssj » Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:58 pm

This is an interesting read. Well worth checking out, could potentially be involved in Xenoverse.
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Lord_of_Time
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Post by TheAldella » Thu Jun 19, 2014 8:05 pm

kidtrunksssj wrote:This is an interesting read. Well worth checking out, could potentially be involved in Xenoverse.
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Lord_of_Time
Whoa. That's pretty wicked, not knowing much about DBO.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Jun 19, 2014 8:07 pm

TheAldella wrote:Whoa. That's pretty wicked, not knowing much about DBO.
Always in my signature. Just sayin'...
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