MistareFusion's Dragon Ball Dissection! (Updated 4/13/26!)

[Kid Buu]

In Saint Seiya Episode 5, a Toru Furuya-voiced character finally defeats a Hirotaka Suzuoki-voiced character. Although, being that Saint Seiya came first, I guess I should say: In Dragon Ball Episode 88, a Hirotaka Suzuoki-voiced character finally defeats a Toru Furuya-voiced character. Too bad Furuya was never in Ranma 1/2 though.

I haven't seen the Daimao arc videos, but I've seen GafferTape's posts and others about his opinions on it. Not just talking about the series but what GafferTape has said in general.

I see.

Well the Ox-King thing is kind of annoying but I prefer the anime and in the anime, something does kinda come out of it. The 21st Budokai is fun but it does annoy me in spots. Lunch becomes redundant fast, and the other non-fighters are sidelined too. Yamcha is wasted, as I've explained to Gaffer Tape a few times. I also think Krillin has somewhat of a wasted role too in my opinon. My main problem is how Jackie Chun comes so close to to beating Goku, but some silly event occurs to hinder that (Bulma reminding him of food, Oozaru) to stop that. It made it feel like Chun was the underdog and I should root for him!

By the way, will you be covering the "Is Ma Junior the son or same person as Daimao" debate? Since you did with the Krillin nose thing.

[Gaffer Tape]

I haven't seen the Daimao arc videos, but I've seen GafferTape's posts and others about his opinions on it. Not just talking about the series but what GafferTape has said in general.

I actually didn't think I'd talked about the Piccolo arc all that much in general, especially since a lot of what I'm saying in this arc is stuff I'm really only figuring out for the first time, as I'm writing it.

So I'm curious to know what it is I've said that you disagree with. And when you say you disagree with me in general, do you mean in regards to the Piccolo arc or that you just generally find my opinions to be composed of drivel?

And if the latter is the case, then how is it my negative critiques of earlier arcs have changed your opinions on them?

[Kid Buu]

Minor nitpicket, but when you say things like "He's like Alfred" you should probably refer to what series he is from. Sure, I got the reference, but I doubt most watchers know (classic) Batman as much as we do.

[Gaffer Tape]

First rule of comedy: don't explain the joke.

[Kid Buu]

First rule of comedy: don't explain the joke.

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2nd RULE: You DO NOT explain the JOKE.

Speaking of references, will there be a mention of Fred again? I was kind of upset that Yamcha got nothing interesting to do here, but in the anime he gets to battle Tambourine to a draw and a few other things. I'm quite upset at the Tenshinhan was shafted too, at least the anime lets him put up a better fight and actually attempt the Mafuba. A lot of people think Tenshinhan became bland and lost all his personality starting this arc. He does seem a lot different, but I don't see how he is bland. He reminds me of manga Sailor Mars.

Can't wait to you talk about the main battle here. Many people, including Akira Toriyama, consider it one of the best fights in the series. I agree.

[TheGmGoken]

Ten is bland. Since day 1. Yamcha fighting Tambourine made ZERO sense. You telling me a broken leg Yamcha can draw a monster who killed Krillin? Bullshit. Hell it wasn't even a draw. Tam got called back. He would had killed every fucking body.

[Gyt Kaliba]

I am a bad, bad follower of awesome material. I didn't realize just how badly I had fallen behind on this due to work, looking for more work, new work, and internet shenanigans...but apparently the last one I watched was back in the Red Ribbon Arc. :/

But no more! Time to get caught up before you get to the Z material at least.

Yamcha fighting Tambourine made ZERO sense. You telling me a broken leg Yamcha can draw a monster who killed Krillin? Bullshit. Hell it wasn't even a draw. Tam got called back. He would had killed every fucking body.

Well, it's not like the difference in power between Kuririn and Yamcha at this point was anywhere near what it would become later, and to be fair, Kuririn didn't really know what he was about to go up against. Yamcha, injured though he may be, did. That said though, I do agree, if it wasn't for Tambourine getting called back, they were all about to die. Heck, the anime pretty much drove that point home I thought.

[Kid Buu]

They both fought evenly until they gave up to external factors (Broken Leg/Piccolo callback), it played similar to Yamcha's fight with Hungry Goku in the Pilaf Arc. Yes, it probably doesnt make sense, but I meant it was more entertaining to watch him sit there and do NOTHING the entire arc.

Tenshinhan is very aloof and serious. I honestly don't see any difference between someone like him and Piccolo other than the latter is green. Heck, Piccolo's role in the story is even similar to Tenshinhan's.

[TheGmGoken]

Ten is boring serious. Piccolo is cool serious.

The fight wasn't even. Yamcha blocked and Tam blocked. Then Tam hurt Yam Leg and Piccolo called. Pretty sure Yamcha almost dying isn't even

[Gyt Kaliba]

Ten is boring serious. Piccolo is cool serious.

Care to elaborate a bit further? I don't really see too much of a difference between them myself, at least on the 'serious' front. The main difference I see is that Piccolo seems to get a lot more love, whereas poor Tenshinhan doesn't seem to get enough. They're both stoic characters, one just has the benefit of being an alien and therefore getting to stick around in the fights a bit longer.

[Kid Buu]

What makes Piccolo "cool" serious?

Tambourine just got in a kick. It was only when Yamcha was running did his leg get in the way. Had Tambourine actually finished the job, I'd declare it a win for him.



By the way, it bothers the hell out of that Tambourine has the same voice as Freeza.

[TheGmGoken]

Wait...wrong anime. Shit. My fault. Got my fights confused. Sorry .

Ten been boring since day one. Nothing to him makes him special IMO. Piccolo to me especially with anime fillers we see Piccolo as a outsider and is different. Maybe even some jealousy in there. So it's fun seeing him . Ten was just.... Ugh. He's boring. If anything Ten more like Vegeta than piccolo

[Kid Buu]

Speaking of Tenshinhan, Hirotaka Suzuoki's Dragon Shiryu character in Saint Seiya, also has a finishing move that kills him in return: Dragon Fury!

[Gaffer Tape]

I am a bad, bad follower of awesome material. I didn't realize just how badly I had fallen behind on this due to work, looking for more work, new work, and internet shenanigans...but apparently the last one I watched was back in the Red Ribbon Arc. :/

But no more! Time to get caught up before you get to the Z material at least.

Please let me know how I'm doing!

[Kid Buu]

Well, here is why I think Tenshinhan an Piccolo are similar:

-They both debut in tournament arcs
-They beat a Turtle School Student in the first round
-They beat a Mentor Character the second round who was previously established to be better than Goku and was undefeated
-They both have a close fight with Goku in the final round but Goku eventually outclasses them both in battle
-They both get beaten by a henchmen next arc who Goku easily bests
-They are both tall, bald, stotic hermits.
-They both have only one real friend (Chaozu/Gohan)

Also, except a video featuring Yamcha and Vegeta to appear here soon.

[TheGmGoken]

1. Piccolo debut as Piccolo Damaio
2. Don't think that matters since Ten beat the entire Turtle Hermit school in 1 budokai
3. Shen/Kami was undefeated? .
4. IMO Goku dominated Piccolo. Honestly seems like Goku had control most of fight.
5. Goku easily beat Raditz? The next arc both Goku and Piccolo got their ass kick. Nappa fight was the next henchmen. Ten fought 1 henchmen. Drum. Piccolo fought 2. I'll go by the first one to make it fair.
6. That's offensive to all bald hermits. Besides isn't Roshi a hermit
7. Piccolo friends with Gohan, Videl(not official), Pan(seeing as that's Gohan daughter), and Goku. Ten friends with Yamcha and Chazou according to Toriyama.

[Kid Buu]

For Gaffer Tape, here is a scene of Yamcha being cool by arguing with Vegeta and fighting Krillin.

1. Piccolo debut as Piccolo Damaio
2. Don't think that matters since Ten beat the entire Turtle Hermit school in 1 budokai
3. Shen/Kami was undefeated? .
4. IMO Goku dominated Piccolo. Honestly seems like Goku had control most of fight.
5. Goku easily beat Raditz? The next arc both Goku and Piccolo got their ass kick. Nappa fight was the next henchmen. Ten fought 1 henchmen. Drum. Piccolo fought 2. I'll go by the first one to make it fair.
6. That's offensive to all bald hermits. Besides isn't Roshi a hermit
7. Piccolo friends with Gohan, Videl(not official), Pan(seeing as that's Gohan daughter), and Goku. Ten friends with Yamcha and Chazou according to Toriyama.

1. Ma Junior debuted in 23rd Budokai and has different personality, which is what I'm talking about
2. Tenshinhan didn't beat Krillin
3. Yes Kami defeated Goku, Yajirobe, Yamcha and then lost to Piccolo
4. Ten and Piccolo both put good fight but were bested by Goku
5. I'm referring to Drum and Nappa, the strongest henchemen in those arcs
6. Master Roshi isn't stotic, tall, and has no interest in romance like those two though.
7. Videl and Pan don't count. So Gohan and Goku for Picccolo but Yamcha and Chaozu for Ten.

[TheGmGoken]

1. Piccolo and Piccolo Daimao are the same
2. Does it matter? He went through the school.
3. Oh that. Just cause they're undefeated doesn't mean anything. Kami fought way less than Roshi. It's like sayin Kid Trunks undefeated
4. Goku honestly had control for most of Piccolo fight.
5. But you just can't skip over Raditz. Ten fought one henchman so just go to the first henchmen Piccolo fought.
6. Piccolo was a demon and his entire race and demons were hairless.
7. Why wouldn't they count? Hell even Goten might be friends with Piccolo.

[Kid Buu]

Hey, Gaffer Tape, since you claim that Daimao is a copy of Tao. A lot of people claim Buu was a copy off Daimao, do you agree - or is that classified until you review it?

1. Piccolo and Piccolo Daimao are the same
2. Does it matter? He went through the school.
3. Oh that. Just cause they're undefeated doesn't mean anything. Kami fought way less than Roshi. It's like sayin Kid Trunks undefeated
4. Goku honestly had control for most of Piccolo fight.
5. But you just can't skip over Raditz. Ten fought one henchman so just go to the first henchmen Piccolo fought.
6. Piccolo was a demon and his entire race and demons were hairless.
7. Why wouldn't they count? Hell even Goten might be friends with Piccolo.

1. It was said their personality was different from birth
2. Well, yes, because they beat one of Goku's friends in the first round
3. Kid Trunks isnt undefeated, and it is there to show they both beat a mentor character
4. Most of the Tenshinhan fight too
5. But the point is that they were both used as a measure stick in that henchmen battle
6. What does that have to do with personality traits?
7. Because its meant to show that they are both aloof

[TheGmGoken]

1. They're still the same person. "The once great demon king piccolo protecting a kid"
2. So? Jackie also fought turtle hermit students and he's bald! Doesn't make them similar.
3. That's coincidence for plot reasons. Kami vs Piccolo. What else you wanted them to do?
4. Goku did NOT have control most of Ten fight.
5. No they wasn't. Piccolo was use a a measuring stick for Raditz . Ten was not a measuring stick for Drum.
6. You called them bald. Bald isn't a personality unless its a bald man disease. I wouldn't call Piccolo a hermit.
7. So Videl, Pan, and Goten doesn't count because you want Piccolo to be a loof?