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Re: MistareFusion's Dragon Ball Dissection! (Updated 6/15/14

Post by Kid Buu » Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:51 pm

1. It's said that Ma Junior had a different personality from his birth
2. Jackie Chun isn't tall, serious, and doesn't care for romance.
3. Well it just shows that they both battled mentor in their second major fight
4. Only early on because of Chaozu's cheating
5. Goku and Tenshinhan were rivals in power, then Drum beats up Ten while Goku beats up Drum, showing Goku is now better than Ten. Same with Piccolo and Nappa.
6. Why isn't Piccolo a hermit? He basically just keeps to himself.
7. Does he even interact with Videl and Pan? I called him aloof because he's not exactly Mr. Social
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Post by TheGmGoken » Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:01 pm

1. They're still the same person....
2. Roshi is pretty serious during fights. Roshi doesn't care for romance. He just want to "fuck" every boobies he see.
3. Um OK. Goku fought a mentor in his second major fight
4. He still didn't have control. Cheating or not
5. Skipping Raditz again. Ten wasn't bulit like that in this arc. While piccolo was built as a measuring stick for Raditz.
6. Maybe during early Saiyan. But later not really.
7. I said Pan and Videl unofficial for a reason :lol: . Seeing as Piccolo Gohan BFF I'm sure Pan loves him. Hell I think Piccolo the God Father. Vegeta isn't social and neither is Yajroibe at times.

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Post by Kid Buu » Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:13 pm

It appears this convo will go on forever, so let me ask you this.

What is it about Tenshinhan and Piccolo's personality do you find difference?
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Re: MistareFusion's Dragon Ball Dissection! (Updated 6/15/14

Post by Gaffer Tape » Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:19 pm

Kid Buu wrote:Hey, Gaffer Tape, since you claim that Daimao is a copy of Tao. A lot of people claim Buu was a copy off Daimao, do you agree - or is that classified until you review it?
I don't claim that Piccolo Daimao is a copy of Tao Pai Pai. I claim that many of the events surrounding the two villains, particularly in regards to Goku, are the same. I'm assuming you're suggesting that based on the last line of my video where I say that Goku is off to battle "Tao P... Piccolo," but again that joke is in reference to the events being similar enough that I "forget" which villain we're currently at, not that I think they're in any way similar.

As for Boo being similar to Piccolo, that's something I've never really heard before, so it's not something I've given any thought, but I'll just go ahead and say that, as of right now, I would say I don't think that's the case at all.
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Post by Kid Buu » Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:26 pm

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Kid Buu wrote:Hey, Gaffer Tape, since you claim that Daimao is a copy of Tao. A lot of people claim Buu was a copy off Daimao, do you agree - or is that classified until you review it?
I don't claim that Piccolo Daimao is a copy of Tao Pai Pai. I claim that many of the events surrounding the two villains, particularly in regards to Goku, are the same. I'm assuming you're suggesting that based on the last line of my video where I say that Goku is off to battle "Tao P... Piccolo," but again that joke is in reference to the events being similar enough that I "forget" which villain we're currently at, not that I think they're in any way similar.

As for Boo being similar to Piccolo, that's something I've never really heard before, so it's not something I've given any thought, but I'll just go ahead and say that, as of right now, I would say I don't think that's the case at all.
I meant the narrative of events around Daimao and Tao being the same, not the characters. Didn't mean to put words in your mouth.

As for Piccolo/Buu: Evil Incarnate who was sealed away, evil incarnate gets released, evil incarnate beats up hero, hero gets potential unlocked while evil incarnate gets much stronger, hero returns and beats-well, thankfully(?) Toriyama changed his mind at the last second and had Gohan lose. I've heard many people say that the Buu Arc was too similar to the Daimao Arc, but I don't think so. Well, at least not as clear as to how the Daimao Arc is similar to the Tao arc.

Another claim I see is that the MMPR Movie ripped from the Daimao arc, but I think that was just a gag. :lol:
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Post by TheGmGoken » Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:33 pm

Kid Buu wrote:It appears this convo will go on forever, so let me ask you this.

What is it about Tenshinhan and Piccolo's personality do you find difference?
Piccolo is a demon king. Who conquered the planet. Twice. However over time he sorta turns just into an angry dude who perhaps feel left out (especially the anime). He just wanted a friend once he was reborn. That and to kill goku. Seeing Gohan treating him nicely made him into a man with someone to love. Now he got friends and will do anything for Earth. He's serious but knows how to be a gag at times.

Ten: I was once going be an assassin. But my entire arc I had no personality except I'm an Honorable fighter. I'm boring and overly serious. All I do is train and don't contact the Z warriors (according to Cell arc ending). I'm anti social .

Piccolo: At first confused but later a loving man. Especially when he was on Namek. Then later he became a subsitute mentor.

Ten: Needed guidance. But since debut he was stale. More stale then school apple juice. I remember back in Seoul I used to litteraly change the channel on Ten.

BTW KidBuu you're confusing the arcs being similar over the actual character.

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Post by Kid Buu » Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:49 pm

I don't think Piccolo was a loving man on Namek. He deflies his promise to Kaio and tells Krillin in the Android Arc that he ain't friends with them. I find him as anti-social as Tenshinhan.

Also, I'm aware that Gaffer Tape means he feels the Piccolo Daimao Arc has events similar to the Mercenary Tao portion of the Red Ribbon Army Arc, not that Daimao is a ripoff of the Tao character. That's Freezas role. :P
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Post by TheGmGoken » Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:52 pm

I meant Piccolo love for his race. He barely even knows them haha. He told Krillin that he ain't friends because.... Krillin explains that already.
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Post by Kid Buu » Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:13 pm

But when does Piccolo ever show interest in socializing or domestic situations?
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Post by TheGmGoken » Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:21 pm

Kid Buu wrote:But when does Piccolo ever show interest in socializing or domestic situations?
I'm going to use the anime on this one. Since of I recall we didn't see much of baby piccolo in manga. He shown sighs of being left out and jealously. Unlike Ten.

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Post by Kid Buu » Sat Jun 21, 2014 4:33 pm

Think Gaffer Tape would enjoy this. :lol:
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Post by Zephyr » Sat Jun 21, 2014 5:48 pm

Kid Buu wrote:not that Daimao is a ripoff of the Tao character. That's Freezas role. :P
Glad to see I'm not he only one who's noticed similarities between these two.

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Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Jun 21, 2014 6:23 pm

Zephyr wrote:
Kid Buu wrote:not that Daimao is a ripoff of the Tao character. That's Freezas role. :P
Glad to see I'm not he only one who's noticed similarities between these two.
I only notice similarities between their defeats and their cyborg forms.
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Post by Zephyr » Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:06 pm

I always thought they were similar in the fact that they were the former superiors of a villain-turned-rival-turned-ally (Tao Pai Pai to Tenshinhan, Freeza to Vegeta), in addition to like you said, their defeats and their cyborg forms.

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Post by Gaffer Tape » Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:50 pm

Kid Buu wrote:Think Gaffer Tape would enjoy this. :lol:
Haha, that was awesome, although I was a bit disappointed that it all ended up being a dream.
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Post by Kid Buu » Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:52 am

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The fight with Boris Karloff is a clear example of Toei trying to make Yamcha cool.

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Perhaps Namek would have been a better arc if Yamcha arrived to fight the Ginyu Force as opposed to Goku.

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His cover of Babyface "The Loneliness" was pretty good; apparently Puar and Oolong sung back-up.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:18 pm

Hey Boo or Gaffer. How many times Yamcha fight? How many were gags or use as a stepping stone?

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The Hunt for the Dragon Balls: Hungry Goku, Full Power Goku, Chichi, Boss Rabbit Men, Pilaf's Dogs, Oozaru Goku

21st Budokai: Man-Wolf, Jackie Chun

The Second Hunt for the Dragon Balls: The Invisible Man, The Mummy

22nd Budokai: Mo-Hawk Guy, Tenshinhan

Piccolo's Revenge: Robbers, Tambourine, Kami

Saiyan Invasion: Baseball Players, Phantom Saiyans, Saibaman

The Hunt for the Namekiean Dragon Balls: Bubbles, Piccolo, Recoome

Artificial Humans Invasion: Dr. Gero, Kuririn, Cell Jr

Majin Buu's Rampage: Super Buu, Oiblu, Gorilla

Matches where he was used as a measuring-stick: Goku, Jackie Chun, The Mummy, Tenshinhan, Kami, Saibaman, and Androids.
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Post by Kid Buu » Sat Jul 05, 2014 3:22 am

Rewatched the Yamcha baseball scene (the first time it shows up in the Saiyan Arc) and Yamcha beat up a total of 12 baseball players. Three of which were on his team. :lol:

Also I noticed those baseball players aren't on Yamcha's team anymore next time we him playing baseball.

Also, Gaffer Tape, since you were talking about Kami and suicide recently. In the Garlic Jr arc, there's an episode called "Can't Wait Until Morning!! Kami-sama Determines a Suicidal Course of Action" - perhaps that might be of interest.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:23 pm

Hey Gaffer what's your "dissection" of Ten vs Yamcha compared to Kami vs Yamcha

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