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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Jun 27, 2014 2:02 pm

JeffJarrett wrote:What about the rumor about Dr. Wheelo appearing in the next set?
We won't know anything until the card set is revealed. If anything though, it seems that specific rumor may be partially debunked because SS3 Vegeta was a CP card, not a SEC. Though I suppose they could have tossed in some fake information to keep from getting in too much trouble? Dunno.
DNA wrote:I'm sure this was not on their mind way back then but, in the same sense as Hakaio are a different thing maybe Cell and Freeza were a different thing as well, maybe the M was white because they were resurrected. By the way, the idea of Piccolo, Broli and Coola under Babidi's control has appeared in other games, I'm sure you guys know that. Unfortunately there was no visual models for them.

I find it a bit odd that Babidi chose to enslave base Bojack instead of his transformed state...
Maybe. Who knows. It's not like them lacking a model is a big deal though. Unlike Vegeta, where they had to add veins and all that, everyone else basically just gets the M (and maybe lose their pupils at this point). Not difficult to imagine the result and certainly not hard for them to create a model for if they need one. Probably takes them 2 seconds to open up an image file of the M and paste it on the character's texture file for their forehead,...even if it's a helmet, and erase the pupils. Broli already has half their job done for them. =P

It is kinda odd. He's the only character with a human sized transformation that wasn't enslaved in it.
Gyt Kaliba wrote:Huh, I didn't even remember the 'M' being white for Freeza and Cell in Budokai 2. Maybe there's just no logic to it to begin with. :P

Still though, you'd think they'd have just...drew him without the helmet and put the M on his forehead proper. Or has he not appeared without the helmet in Heroes?
Like DNA said, he's only gone without his helmet in his giant form. Still it shouldn't be that hard to either shrink that model or just take the helmet off the other one. I mean, they apparently created a whole new base form model for Bojack just for this. Slug's bald head should have been much easier and taken less time.

I'm just going to assume there is no logic to it unless they come out and give details in a V-Jump spread or something.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Heroes" On-Going Discussion Thread

Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Jun 27, 2014 2:36 pm

If we do get another Majin movie villain then I think it's likely going to be either Majin Coola (Final Form) or Majin LSSj Broli. They happen in Shin Budokai 2, but they lack the "M" on their head. If Buu does absorb Broli and Coola in Heroes, I hope they Buu a design for them. Dimps was lazy to create a form for Super Buu absorbing them.
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Post by jollyr » Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:50 am

I'd like to see Cell when he absorbed Goku in GT, he'd be like unstoppable.

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Post by New_Guy » Sat Jun 28, 2014 12:15 pm

One would think that Turles would finally be able to turn into a super saiyan once he gets controlled by Babidi but.. I guess not..

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Post by Xeogran » Sat Jun 28, 2014 2:01 pm

jollyr wrote:I'd like to see Cell when he absorbed Goku in GT, he'd be like unstoppable.
For one second Cell got his glory back and became stronger than Beerus :P

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Jun 28, 2014 2:22 pm

New_Guy wrote:One would think that Tullece would finally be able to turn into a super saiyan once he gets controlled by Babidi but.. I guess not..
Him after eating the fruit would put him around Freeza's first form. If he got got a Majin power up, he would be around Freeza's 3rd form. Not enough to go SSj. But hey, Bardock can go SSj somehow, but fuck logic now these days :roll: .
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Post by Cetra » Sat Jun 28, 2014 2:47 pm

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jollyr wrote:I'd like to see Cell when he absorbed Goku in GT, he'd be like unstoppable.
For one second Cell got his glory back and became stronger than Beerus :P
I hate that scene even though I love GT. If something does not make any sense for me then that one.
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Post by DNA » Sat Jun 28, 2014 3:17 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Him after eating the fruit would put him around Freeza's first form. If he got got a Majin power up, he would be around Freeza's 3rd form. Not enough to go SSj. But hey, Bardock can go SSj somehow, but fuck logic now these days :roll: .
That's completely based on your own assumptions, you can't state them as facts. Furthermore, I never really swallowed the "you need a certain power level in order to achieve Super Saiyan", especially since we all know power levels to be complete bullshit. Unfortunately some fans (not referring to you specifically) are very eager to disregard power levels when it is convenient and then grab onto them when talking about turning Super Saiyan.
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jollyr wrote:I'd like to see Cell when he absorbed Goku in GT, he'd be like unstoppable.
I hate that scene even though I love GT. If something does not make any sense for me then that one.
That scene is fucking garbage. Out of all GT, that scene annoys me the most, it makes zero sense and it allows fans to use it to reason that Cell can absorb more people, which doesn't make any sense once he achieves his perfect form.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Jun 28, 2014 3:31 pm

I do think we could see Buu absorbing the movie villains next. I think the line up could be:

Super Buu (SSj Bardock absorbed) - Bardock seems to be a good seller for Heroes
Super Buu (Coola (Final Form) absorbed)
Super Buu (Super Hatchiyack absorbed)
Super Buu (Bojack's first form absorbed) - I don't think Buu would look anything special if he absorb his second form, but that's just me.
Super Buu (LSSj Broli absorbed)
Super Buu (Janemba (Final form) absorbed)
Super Buu (SSj Gogeta absorbed)
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Jun 28, 2014 3:53 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Him after eating the fruit would put him around Freeza's first form. If he got got a Majin power up, he would be around Freeza's 3rd form. Not enough to go SSj. But hey, Bardock can go SSj somehow, but fuck logic now these days :roll: .
Goku could probably have gone Super Saiyan when his battle power was at 90.000, so Tullece wouldn't have a problem if he had a tranquil heart.
DNA wrote:I never really swallowed the "you need a certain power level in order to achieve Super Saiyan", especially since we all know power levels to be complete bullshit.
It's the scouters that are unreliable (and only against those who can control their battle power), not the battle powers themselves.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:52 pm

Heroes commercial from this week's Kai broadcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ILtvdYq2HM

New reveals:
Super Saiyan 2 Gogeta (Does it bug anyone else that he now basically has everything but a proper base form?)
Majin Buu (Evil) --Giant Transformation from inside himself
Hakaio Bebi Janenba *Confirmation*
Interesting tidbits:
Like with Pui Pui using the new Babidi power-up on a card from V-Jump, we get to see SS Vegeta using it here...in his Battle Jacket (Cell Arc, JSAT, BOG).

Apparently people think we're getting two SECs again, with some of them thinking they are (Hakaio?) Dr. Uiro, SS3 Hakaio Broli, Final form Hakaio Coola or a new Buu transformation (though one of these could just be an UR, like the Hakaio Bebi Janenba they thought they hid):
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Post by Cetra » Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:13 pm

DNA wrote: That scene is fucking garbage. Out of all GT, that scene annoys me the most, it makes zero sense and it allows fans to use it to reason that Cell can absorb more people, which doesn't make any sense once he achieves his perfect form.
Also, I don't believe he cannot do the absorption with others like he did with 17 and 18. He always used the other way. Granted, it was not mentioned so it does not need to be considered like that but something tells me that it is was supposed to be as impossible as his absolute form being able to absorb in general.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:29 pm

If we have Majin Bebi Janemba does that mean Majin GT Vegeta and Majin Bebi Vegeta are possible now?
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Post by Kantico » Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:04 pm

Where are Beby, Janemba and Babidi in Super 17 arc? XD!

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:49 am

...So...we have Baby who has infested Janemba whose mind is then taken over by Babidi...and yet Super Saiyan Pan is apparently too outlandish for them to give us.

Dammit Heroes! :P
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:51 am

Gyt Kaliba wrote:...So...we have Baby who has infested Janemba whose mind is then taken over by Babidi...and yet Super Saiyan Pan is apparently too outlandish for them to give us.

Dammit Heroes! :P
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Post by DNA » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:53 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Super Saiyan 2 Gogeta (Does it bug anyone else that he now basically has everything but a proper base form?)
Yes, me, a lot, especially since there is a design of him from way back then in a chart. But cool, this is why I left placeholder spaces for forms.
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Majin Buu (Evil) --Giant Transformation from inside himself
That's... Imaginative... Although in reality he would be the size of a tick since he was inside himself.
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Apparently people think we're getting two SECs again, with some of them thinking they are (Hakaio?) Dr. Uiro, SS3 Hakaio Broli, Final form Hakaio Coola or a new Buu transformation (though one of these could just be an UR, like the Hakaio Bebi Janenba they thought they hid)
I doubt it will be Hakaio Baby Janenba since they've shown him twice already. I believe the top one is Broli, if you look closely to the bottom left corner you can see his golden boot and the jewel. Too much glare on the second one to see anything, but I cast my vote onto Hakaio Coola.
Gyt Kaliba wrote:...So...we have Baby who has infested Janemba whose mind is then taken over by Babidi...and yet Super Saiyan Pan is apparently too outlandish for them to give us.
Wait until Buu absorbs Hakaio Baby Janenba.

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Post by hulkty » Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:12 am

SSj2 Gogeta?! SWEET! Now people who can't tell the difference between SSj1 and 2 can look for themselves. XD

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:05 pm

I think this image from a better quality version of the trailer is getting the Japanese fandom to come to a consensus on the SECs; Hakaio Broli (SS3) and Majin Buu (Babidi Absorbed).

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:49 pm

I was expecting Hakaio LSS3 Broli, but not Babidi Boo. And this seems to be Pure Boo again.
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