Why is Toei reanimating Sailor Moon but not DBZ?

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Re: Why is Toei reanimating Sailor Moon but not DBZ?

Post by coola » Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:55 am

They make Umino look more nerdy then before :) I also think they make new scene, that wasn`t in manga (Usagi fall asleep after she get back home, and dream about playing Sailor V, and she have to save Luna) At first, Mamoru new voice sounded very similar to Toru Furuya, but at the end, he was different. Subtitles were ok, i was surprised they left honorifics, and it was weird to hear Luna saying "Kick her butt"
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Re: Why is Toei reanimating Sailor Moon but not DBZ?

Post by Kid Buu » Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:56 am

His Mamoru sounds like Furuya, but his Tuxedo Kamen sounded different.

CGI transformation was lame, but everything else was good.

Man, watching this makes me hate Kai MORE.
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Re: Why is Toei reanimating Sailor Moon but not DBZ?

Post by Ajay » Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:06 am

I never watched any Sailor Moon outside of maybe 3 dubbed episodes back in the 90s. Just finished up the first episode of Sailor Moon Crystal and I'm pretty excited. That was really great!

Kotono Mitsuishi as Usagi was really grating though. I guess I'm just not used to hearing something that high pitched. Maybe it was just due to my tiredness but everyone seemed to really hit my ear strangely. I'll probably get used to it though, Madoka Magica was the same way initially.

As far as CGI goes, I thought it was pretty good actually. What was the issue? It wasn't particularly overt about being CG and it blended pretty nicely. I had absolutely zero issue with it whatsoever. Far better than anything PreCure has been churning out.

The art style has appealed to me from day one and I still don't understand any of the complaints. It looks like the manga, what's there to hate? Isn't the whole point of this series to be more faithful to the source? They took a very dated style and made it work with modern animation. Good enough for me!

It's weird going into such an old series with absolutely zero idea as to what it's about outside of the basic premise though. Quite excited to see how things develop!

And uh, yeah, Dragon Ball board! Um...TOEI, how about some new animation for us, okay?!
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Re: Why is Toei reanimating Sailor Moon but not DBZ?

Post by Chuquita » Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:04 am

SMC is super-pretty; I miss all the wild facial expressions of the original though (also the seemingly random recolorings for Usagi's mom, her teacher, and her brother confuse me; but I don't recall seeing any of them in color in the manga so maybe those are their actual color schemes). I'm happy at least the attacks are 2D animated.
This is so where the missing budget for Precure went this year, or at least it feels like it.
Interesting; past-life Usagi has her silver hair, present-life looks like it will not.

I am happy they kept the Sailor V game looking all chibi and 2D; the thought did pass through my head that they'd make that CGI too.
The subtler recolorings for Naru and Motoki aren't that bad.
Nice foreshadowing with Ami at the end.
A number of "character talks while their face isn't on screen" parts; directorial choice or saving money?
I feel like the original had more character interaction in the first episode.
That ED is beautiful, as are the eyecatches.

This does make me feel sad about Kai, but...I guess I would rather get new animation for new material (future DB movies?).
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Re: Why is Toei reanimating Sailor Moon but not DBZ?

Post by funrush » Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:58 am

I liked it quite a bit, Usagi's voice kinda got on my nerves though.

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Post by Kid Buu » Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:08 pm

So is current Usagi how some people view Nozawa? O_O
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Post by Adamant » Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:17 pm

coola wrote: I also think they make new scene, that wasn`t in manga (Usagi fall asleep after she get back home, and dream about playing Sailor V, and she have to save Luna)
That's in the manga. It's the dream about her being a princess that isn't.
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Post by Li'l Lemmy » Sat Jul 05, 2014 2:17 pm

They're reanimating Sailor Moon because tits are everywhere and it sells.


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Post by B » Sat Jul 05, 2014 4:59 pm

Li'l Lemmy wrote:They're reanimating Sailor Moon because tits are everywhere and it sells.


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Post by Kid Buu » Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:04 pm

Dragon Ball shows boobs more than Sailor Moon does.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:16 pm

Kid Buu wrote:Dragon Ball shows boobs more than Sailor Moon does.
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Post by Super Sayian Prime » Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:50 pm

Dragon Ball is the continuing adventure of a gigantic tit. :wave:
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Post by Adamant » Sat Jul 05, 2014 7:55 pm

Super Saiyan Prime wrote:Dragon Ball is the continuing adventure of a gigantic tit. :wave:

Well, Goku IS a boob.
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Re: Why is Toei reanimating Sailor Moon but not DBZ?

Post by ss4songoku » Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:50 am

because they're idiots. What's so special about Sailor Moon never could get the appeal then again I am a guy lol. Chicks are cute in it at least haha. DB really needs to be reanimated to follow the manga, that's what kai should have been not that kai isn't great but i'd love to see everything al shiny and new. Sometimes DBZ is animated beautifully other times it looks downright awful, the inconsistency in the animation really bugs me. I know for sure it will happen one day but not anytime soon maybe 10 to 15 years.

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Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Jul 06, 2014 3:10 am

ss4songoku wrote:because they're idiots. What's so special about Sailor Moon never could get the appeal then again I am a guy lol. Chicks are cute in it at least haha. DB really needs to be reanimated to follow the manga, that's what kai should have been not that kai isn't great but i'd love to see everything al shiny and new. Sometimes DBZ is animated beautifully other times it looks downright awful, the inconsistency in the animation really bugs me. I know for sure it will happen one day but not anytime soon maybe 10 to 15 years.
Sailor Moon is VERY popular and guys love it. Toei are not idiots are DB brings in cheap money. Sailor Moon being inactive for quite awhile. SO a reboot is reasonable. Honestly most of DB's recent animation been average at best. Nothing compared to the original art-style. This is coming from someone who's not an animation or art-style greak.

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Post by funrush » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:54 pm

I'm a guy and Sailor Moon Crystal is my first foray into the franchise, it seems pretty cool actually. Apparently the original was kind of drawn out and filler-y so a straight to the point Sailor Moon series could be really good, depending on however good the plot of the manga was. I could just be expecting too much but whatever.

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Post by Kid Buu » Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:31 am

Okay, just rewatched the first episode of this and the original anime to compare. My biggest gripe with Crystal so far is the editing, it just jumps from manga plot points with no flow. For example, Mamoru's debut:

Crystal: Mamoru is shown standing still in the frame with Usagi when Usagi hits him, thus it gives the impression he was just waiting for her to hit him.

Classic: The frame shows Usagi isolated, then she throws the test, and the scene cuts to the paper hitting hitting Mamoru's head. Due to this cut, the scene gives the impression that Mamoru was casually walking when Usagi threw the test.

However, I do enjoy the manga's storyline so I'm optimistic about this.
funrush wrote:Apparently the original was kind of drawn out and filler-y .
The original anime was episodic and has plot arcs throughout, like Cowboy Bebop.

It's not like DBZ where they add in random cutaways to stall time.
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Re: Why is Toei reanimating Sailor Moon but not DBZ?

Post by garnetjester » Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:03 am

I liked it, but it's hard to get used to the art style. I'm not a fan of shoujo, and particularly Takeuchi's ultra lanky character aesthetic, but I did adore SM when I was a little kid so I figured I'd watch this. At some points it kind of looks like a love simulation game :lol: but in general, the art is very detailed and I'm impressed by that. I'll keep watching it because I need to watch my favorite character Minako in action :clap:
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Post by ParkerAL » Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:50 pm

Seeing people use this thread to talk about the current Sailor Moon series got me wondering: why doesn't this site have an non-Dragon-Ball-related section for talking about other anime/comics/movies/ect?
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Re: Why is Toei reanimating Sailor Moon but not DBZ?

Post by Basaku » Mon Jul 07, 2014 7:26 pm

funrush wrote:I'm a guy and Sailor Moon Crystal is my first foray into the franchise, it seems pretty cool actually. Apparently the original was kind of drawn out and filler-y so a straight to the point Sailor Moon series could be really good, depending on however good the plot of the manga was. I could just be expecting too much but whatever.
More like straight-out filled with filler lol. Way worse than DB. First episode of Crystal was good, obviously not perfect but no disaster either and it looks promising. While the manga may have rushed too fast (especially through villain lineup), in general the main manga plots were much better than original anime which toook huge liberties and strayed far away from manga at many points (unlike DB which was faithful to the manga main plot).

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