Dragon Ball Kai - What Went Wrong?

[EXBadguy]

*shrug* Even if they did show DB first, nobody wouldn't care much about it and I don't blame them. Hence why it didn't do well overseas like Z AND GT did. DB can be a bit too silly. Though I would agree with some others that Z is overrated and DB and really underrated, but...what's done is done.

[kei17]

*shrug* Even if they did show DB first, nobody wouldn't care much about it and I don't blame them. Hence why it didn't do well overseas like Z AND GT did.

From what I know, it did quite well in Spain.

[TheGmGoken]

*shrug* Even if they did show DB first, nobody wouldn't care much about it and I don't blame them. Hence why it didn't do well overseas like Z AND GT did.

From what I know, it did quite well in Spain.

And....Korea(though sorta edited with Anti Jpn Korea had going on). I also know it did better than GT in most areas just not as good as Z

[EXBadguy]

Guess I should take back what I said, then. Though if they did a original DB Kai, I doubt it would do that much good.

[kei17]

Guess I should take back what I said, then. Though if they did a original DB Kai, I doubt it would do that much good.

Yeah, I too doubt it would do much good compared to Z. A complete remake would be needed for the original DB.

[Looneygamemaster]

as well as the greedy, lazy reason the series was given the green-light in the first place

I have to ask--is Kai any less greedy or lazy than Z was on the whole?

So much of Z is motivated not by artistry or entertainment, but by transparently, desperately trying to keep the show behind the manga, to the extent that it greatly harms the material. Isn't Z as artistically bankrupt as Kai is?

I'm not trying to be snippy or mean, by the way--I'm genuinely curious.

[JackyBoi99]

What went wrong in english speaking countries, is that dub fans weren't willing to give up their original cast and Faulconer.

Uh, how exactly does that have any impact on the poor way Kai has turned out in Japan, and therefore here as well? No offense, but this just sounds like complaining about the dub fanbase for the sake of complaining about the dub fanbase.

Apologies, I thought this thread was for what went wrong universally not just in japan. Also I'm not trying to complain about the dub fan base, since that is a legitamte reason why kai didn't do as well as it could in english speaking countries. If you want more proof just go on youtube.

[JEFFMAN219]

So would you guys not recommend a new comer to the series to watch Kai

[Baggie_Saiyan]

So would you guys not recommend a new comer to the series to watch Kai

If they want to watch it dubbed, sure. I've read from various different places that the JPN dub isn't as good as Z.

[Ajay]

So would you guys not recommend a new comer to the series to watch Kai

It's absolutely fine for a newcomer in English or Japanese.

Our nitpicks over voice acting and music mean jack shit to someone who's never seen the series before.

It's a fine starting point.

[JEFFMAN219]

What went wrong was Toei being cheap and not reanimating the series from scratch like they did with Sailor Moon. Thus causing many problems like weird edits of footage.

[JEFFMAN219]

So would you guys not recommend a new comer to the series to watch Kai

If they want to watch it dubbed, sure. I've read from various different places that the JPN dub isn't as good as Z.

Its not IMO and if you want proof go on youtube and check the Japanese version of Kai when Goku was powering of to fight Vageta man oh man did that sound horrible.

[Kid Buu]

What went wrong was Toei being cheap and not reanimating the series from scratch like they did with Sailor Moon. Thus causing many problems like weird edits of footage.

Sailor Moon 2014 has that problem too, as I posted in your thread

[funrush]

Okay well first of all they didn't start at Dragon Ball, second is the whole music thing, that was a disaster and now there are a crapton of DVDs that look the same but have different content inside. And then there's the animation. If the point of Kai is to remove the filler in a professional manner, the tracing thing sucks because you get stuff like the Bulma/Ginyu thing kept in because they literally just couldn't edit it out. Also it still leaves a bunch of the animation inconsistencies in, and even produces more by the whole way some scenes happen to look traced or redrawn differently and it breaks the flow of the mood. And in the end it leaves a job just as easily paralleled by a high schooler with some video editing software.

So would you guys not recommend a new comer to the series to watch Kai

I would still tell them to watch the original Dragon Ball first but then use Kai as a substitute for Z, because despite Kai's shortcomings it saves a hell of a lot of your time from some crap in Z.