The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:26 pm

Vegeta knows the flaws of SS3, so he may understand why Goku wouldn't use it. If they were to fight after the Cell Games, I don't think that Vegeta would force Goku to go Super Saiyan Grade 2 or Grade 3.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by hleV » Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:55 pm

SS3 advantages over SS2 easily outweight the disadvantages (which cannot be said about SS Grade forms vs SS) when you're fighting someone without the ability to regenerate, especially if by going SS3 you're securing your victory in a matter of seconds. Vegeta wouldn't be so confident about him defeating Goku if he knew he would still be weaker due to not having SS3 (EVEN if he suspected that Goku wouldn't even use it), it wouldn't count as a real victory for him. I'm done here, as you're known to have an abolutely wrong idea about Vegeta.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:14 pm

Hm... I guess I'll have to agree with you then.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:19 pm

Honestly think they would go the best route and just use SSJ.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:22 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:Honestly think they would go the best route and just use SSJ.
Their fight as Super Saiyan 2 was fine the last time they fought.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Post by ZombieVito » Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:20 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:
Just noticed this is EoZ Goku. Goku stomps in base then due to absorbing SSJG.
I completely forgot about SSJG.

No SSJ3 or SSJG then. :)
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Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:11 am

Spiderman (The amazing Series comic. Earth 616) gaulet vs Db

Cyborg(DC Universe) vs Androids-Cyborgs gaulet.

Ssj4 Goku and Vegeta vs Four-Star Dragon and One-Star Dragon
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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQjzjX8fQTQ

Here's the rules. No fusion and One Star Dragon can't eat the balls. Who wins? Perhaps a similar ending to the first Metal Cooler vs Goku and Vegeta? Curious on this one
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Post by Kid Buu » Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:35 am

Spike (Buffy the Vampire Slayer) Vs Piccolo (Dragon Ball: Evolution)
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Post by White Oni » Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:07 am

Kid Buu wrote:Spike (Buffy the Vampire Slayer) Vs Piccolo (Dragon Ball: Evolution)
Spike, definitely spike.
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Post by Son Edo » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:52 am

Colonel Silver vs Videl.
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Post by Kid Buu » Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:23 am

More Wanked: Video Game Broli or Filler Yamcha?
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:25 am

Kid Buu wrote:More Wanked: Video Game Broli or Filler Yamcha?
Broly is almost as strong as Ultimate Gohan in Budokai 3's story mode.

Yamcha doesn't have that kind of wank going for him; he just got upgraded to base CG Goku level.
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Post by Kid Buu » Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:27 am

Chaozu Vs Pui Pui
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Post by ZombieVito » Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:01 am

Pocus one shots all 4 super humans.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:09 am

Asura runs the DBZ gauntlet. Does he eventually meet his match, or does he go through everyone?

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Post by White Oni » Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:36 am

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Asura runs the DBZ gauntlet. Does he eventually meet his match, or does he go through everyone?

Powers and Abilities - http://asuraswrath.wikia.com/wiki/Asura
Based on the powersanf abilities section, he'd be too much for anyone weaker than Chou Gohan.

3 important things I don't know about him.

1) how durable is he.
2) how fast is he in combat
3) around how many stars did he bust with his final form? And, Can be use his final form at will?

These could be game changers.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:28 pm

Kid Buu wrote:Chaozu Vs Pui Pui
Pui Pui is around as strong as Oozaru Vegeta IMO, so he is fucked.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Post by mysticboy » Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:40 pm

Turles, Saiyan Arc Vegeta, King Vegeta, Nappa, Bardock, Fasha, and Raditz (all in Oozaru form) vs. The Ginyu Force, Dodoria, Zarbon, and Cui

Stipulations:
  • Guldo can't stop time
    Ginyu can't body switch
    The Ginyu Force and the others have no knowledge about Saiyan tails or of the moon
    You may add in Cooler's Armored Squad if you think it'll help
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Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:49 pm

Ginyu alone can take ALL of the Apes BUT Tullence. That's literally a slaughter by Ginyu alone. However Tullence might cause an issue. However the Cooler Squad might help. Bit Tullence wins.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:28 pm

mysticboy wrote:Tullece, Saiyan Arc Vegeta, King Vegeta, Nappa, Bardock, Selypa, and Raditz (all in Oozaru form) vs. The Ginyu Force, Dodoria, Zarbon, and Cui

Stipulations:
  • Guldo can't stop time
    Ginyu can't body switch
    The Ginyu Force and the others have no knowledge about Saiyan tails or of the moon
    You may add in Cooler's Armored Squad if you think it'll help
Vegeta stomps by himself. And Tullece could probably do it without transforming if you give him his highest power shown in Movie 3.
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