Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[B]

I'll see the desire for the "End of Z" dougi and raise a color-correction to the way it looks on the cover of Volume 42. But, if they didn't see a reason to make Bulma's hair purple, they're probably not gonna bother with something as minor as that.

[KentalSSJ6]

Id like seeing another film with purple hair Bulma. Last one was Path to Power right?

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

Pilaf wants the Dragon Balls -> Trunks falls in love -> he invites Mai -> Mai shoots at Gohan -> Gohan hurts Videl accidentally -> Dende heals Videl -> we find out about Pan

Still filler to me. The end result didnt have to happen at that point in time, and could have been announced in any other way. This could have all been skipped if it was Gohan and Videl's wedding. Or if she mentions Pan while eating or Goku tapping on her belly. It didnt need to be dragged out in such abstract convenient procedures.

Why does Vegeta *have* to have Super Saiyan 3? Everything we've seen from it makes it apparent that it's a more supernatural form that's just not very practical for a living being.

What's supernatural about it ?

The fact that they were both achieved in meditative outer-body plains of existance. Vegeta has never had the temperment to really ascend that far spiritually. Hes only more obessed with his appearances and physical strength. Him not having SSJ3 shows his limitations.

Though I dont think SSJ3 is relevant anymore. There is no way Vegeta would ever be able to master the weight of the form especially as someone who burns out ki as fast as he does. Pfff, it would just give him more to complain about.

I dislike the blue one. Mainly 'cuz every time I see it, it reminds me of GT.

You know that this was Goku's basic colour when Dragon Ball came out? Or blue to purple if you want.

I prefer the Full Blue Gi before GT's. I hated GT's because of the pink wrist-bands. Though his End Z Gi was probably the best, its mellower and represents Goku at his canically strongest. His base form = SSJ3. There is so many secrets in that appearance alone.

[FortuneSSJ]

How I wished this one was official. Its perfect!
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/ ... 6oo96b.jpg

You know that this was Goku's basic colour when Dragon Ball came out? Or blue to purple if you want.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP8QDBBQNHg

His first gi was really meh. Wished he had the GT one in the beginning just like Path to Power.

Id like seeing another film with purple hair Bulma. Last one was Path to Power right?

Last and only one.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

You know, the other day I was thinking about what sort of stuff I would want from a new DBZ-movie... Being that we now know we are getting one, I feel like listing the stuff I came up with.
- Give us a villain who is dangerous for reasons other than just being insanely powerful. Like, while having an antagonist who wasn't necessarily evil was a neat approach too, it did result in the movie basically having no tension. So in that regard I think I'd like a more serious bad guy. Or at least something like Janemba or Boo, who is both an immediate threat and extremely silly at the same time.

As long as the plot isnt... "One day ____ is having a party for no reason_________ until ______ villain appears out of no where and crashes it because he can; then threatens to kill everyone at first sight over something completly unrelated."

I'm fine with all the ironic nihilistic villains AT makes but I'm tired with all their motivations being the usual: "Its all just a game to me/I want a good fight/I'm bored" monster of the day type cliche.
I want there to at least be more variety to the villains; more Archetypes to them at least. I want a villain that has a reason to exist and actually affects or reflects the existance of the Z-senshi, or past events: its what made Baby, Cooler and Syn Shenron incredible villains in terms of backstory. Beerus could have been that if he had taken himself more seriously and getting the Z-fighters to think about their actions or reference who they've encountered. I dont like villains appearing out of no where.

Battle of Gods was far better than any other DB/Z film because it had an actual story, comedy, decent use of characters and so on.

No. Revenge of Cooler & Broly 8 had stories very plausible within the canon universe and the villains both had reasons for what they did through the building up. (Cooler & Paragus) Beerus simply had a dream he was fighting something he didnt even know existed nor had any reason to get him to believe it would be as strong as he credited it as considering only primitive sayians used it. Nope. There was no story in movie 13 but Filler-settings and bad comedy. The movies never needed filler to progress themselves nor did it need slapstick to be funny.

All the others were garbage in my eyes, except 12, 13 and Path to Power which were okay, but BoG is one of my favourite things in the franchise. I do think Battle of Gods could have used about 10-15 minutes more for the fight, and some actual weight to it, though. The scrapped scene with everyone else joining in to save Goku while he was unconscious sounds like it would have been great for that.

All the other movies garbage? Thats usually what someone says only because they know Akira Toriyama didnt sit there and write everything; even though his editors usually have better ideas than he does himself. He only tries to make sense of them but never checks the details. I'm sure all the movies could have been canon if the scripts were double-checked.

With that in mind, more of a focus on action while still being written by Toriyama sounds really good. Hopefully people won't have grounds to complain that it doesn't feel like Dragon Ball Z, but I can also be confident that it won't go entirely the other way and end up like the non-Toriyama movies, with five minutes to set the scene then a massive slug-fest.

If the movies are anything like the Gokus fight fight with Beerus maybe. It to me was the only good part of the movie entirely, the only fight that remotely looked like DBZ. Goku's Friendship boost used to Absorb Beerus' attack at the end was BS. I dont like build ups like that where the fight is mindlessly fought until it has to be saved by Deux Ex Machinas. Even though the other movies did that, it was clear that they were only fixed for time. They werent complete just asspulls like BOG's. (some more arguable than others: it didnt use the Cliche BOG recycled from the Freeza fight)

[Zephyr]

Honestly, all I'm hoping for is that they don't make Goten, Trunks, and Marron look like shrimps still, if this is supposed to take place post-BoG.

And also for Videl's pregnancy to either be more visible, or Pan to be born.

[Friggin_Krillin]

More Action and effort for the Design? Alright now i'm already way more excited then i was for BoG. I like that Akira wants to have proper Control again and that it is Content which he had in Mind during the Original Franchises Run.

What i'd like to see? if he's doing it a certain Time after Kid Boo's End i would love to see a Teenage Pan in the 'Z' Style. Adult Gotenks would be nice thanks to Heroes. Yardrat as it was mentioned here.. I guess there's still enough Potential between all those Training Years or the Gaps from Saga to Saga.

[JamesOwnz]

Yes if this does take place post Battle of Gods then Trunks and Goten better have new designs.

[Careless Saiyajin]

More Action and effort for the Design? Alright now i'm already way more excited then i was for BoG. I like that Akira wants to have proper Control again and that it is Content which he had in Mind during the Original Franchises Run.

What i'd like to see? if he's doing it a certain Time after Kid Boo's End i would love to see a Teenage Pan in the 'Z' Style. Adult Gotenks would be nice thanks to Heroes. Yardrat as it was mentioned here.. I guess there's still enough Potential between all those Training Years or the Gaps from Saga to Saga.

Although i love the quirky original Dragon Ball feel that Battle of Gods has captured i am also ready for "more action and effort for the design". Cheers to what is ahead to come, i'm excited!

[ConfusedPhantom]

How I wished this one was official. Its perfect!
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/ ... 6oo96b.jpg

That....really needs to be a thing. I love it!

[Chuquita]

How I wished this one was official. Its perfect!
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/ ... 6oo96b.jpg

That....really needs to be a thing. I love it!

So cool. I'm really hungry for some movie-exclusive costumes. I still love the lil blue sweat-suit from BOG, but a new battle outfit would be awesome.

[Kid Buu]

Seriously though, we need more Toriyama titbits.

"Yamcha began a career as a singer; he went straight to #1 with his cover of "The Loneliness" originally by Babyface"
"Recoome is actually an action star in space, notable films include Recoome Balboa and Recoome: First Blood Part 2"
"Tenshinhan's tan went wrong and he turned green, so now no one can tell the difference between him and Piccolo"

If anything good comes out of this film, it'll be the Toriyama trolling.

[sintzu]

The fact that they were both achieved in meditative outer-body plains of existance. Vegeta has never had the temperment to really ascend that far spiritually. Hes only more obessed with his appearances and physical strength. Him not having SSJ3 shows his limitations.

You mean the afterlife and the time room ? If yes then that doesn't make sense cause it was never said a saiyan needed one of them to get it and keep in mind that ssj2 was also reached by goku and gohan by thoes methods yet vegeta was able to reach it by normal training,As far as i know the only form that has something supernatural about it is ssjg and until said otherwise ssj1-3 are reached by power,training and anger.

And why is vegeta the only charecter who has to have limitations ? I alwayse read how gohan,piccolo,ect should get stronger and do more yet when vegeta is brought up the majority say he reached his limit and shouldn't get stronger,why is this ? and when did vegeta ever show that he reached this limit i'm alwayse reading about ?

[WesMan23]

First off, very excited about this news!

Not to derail the topic into "Why Vegeta?" discussions, but my brief contribution, for what it's worth. Vegeta's only obstacle is his pride and his always wanting to be the strongest/best/whatever superlative you want to place. He trains because of pride, because he cannot imagine being second best. When he fights for something beyond pride, then he does ascend past his normal limits, like in BoG, his

Spoiler:

revenge shot against Beerus, that was out of protection and caring for Bulma, and he got in a few good shots on him.

So, if he ever permanently works past the whole pride obstacle, and taps into other emotions, he has just as much potential as Goku or Gohan. He clearly has untapped strength, it's just that he goes about fighting and training the wrong way. Keep in mind, canonically (as in manga), he only reached the Ascended SSJ forms on his own, never anything past that. SSJ2 was because of Babidi turning him Majin, and even in GT, Bulma invented a way for him to reach SSJ4. He never reached beyond that on his own, because he always held himself back because he was so damn prideful. He lets go of the pride, he has so much more potential.

[Big Momma]

Any chance this movie was somehow planned to be released as Kai will be ending it's run? And it will take place after the main storyline?

If this movie really is supposed to focus on Vegeta, then that'd be a perfect slot to put it, as Goku will be off with Uub somewhere.

[miguelnuva1]

First off, very excited about this news!

Not to derail the topic into "Why Vegeta?" discussions, but my brief contribution, for what it's worth. Vegeta's only obstacle is his pride and his always wanting to be the strongest/best/whatever superlative you want to place. He trains because of pride, because he cannot imagine being second best. When he fights for something beyond pride, then he does ascend past his normal limits, like in BoG, his

Spoiler:

revenge shot against Beerus, that was out of protection and caring for Bulma, and he got in a few good shots on him.

So, if he ever permanently works past the whole pride obstacle, and taps into other emotions, he has just as much potential as Goku or Gohan. He clearly has untapped strength, it's just that he goes about fighting and training the wrong way. Keep in mind, canonically (as in manga), he only reached the Ascended SSJ forms on his own, never anything past that. SSJ2 was because of Babidi turning him Majin, and even in GT, Bulma invented a way for him to reach SSJ4. He never reached beyond that on his own, because he always held himself back because he was so damn prideful. He lets go of the pride, he has so much more potential.

Ssj2 was not because of Babidi.

[sintzu]

Any chance this movie was somehow planned to be released as Kai will be ending it's run? And it will take place after the main storyline?

If this movie really is supposed to focus on Vegeta, then that'd be a perfect slot to put it, as Goku will be off with Uub somewhere.

I thought of that too,What they might do after kai as well is show eather all movies leading up to this one or just BOG

[sintzu]

SSJ2 was because of Babidi turning him Majin

Going ssj or ssj2 for the first time happens out of a saiyan's control where vegeta went ssj2 on his own meaning that he reached it on his own before the buu arc started

[kei17]

How I wished this one was official. Its perfect!
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/ ... 6oo96b.jpg

That....really needs to be a thing. I love it!

Though it's a cool design, it looks very un-Toriyama-esque and terribly pseudo-oriental. It's not something I would expect for official stuff.

I hope Toriyama will design new outfits for the main characters again. His redesigns in BoG were awesome.

[theoriginalbilis]

Late to the party, as usual...!

Like everyone else, I'm excited to see where the next film will go. Especially since Toriyama has an even more direct hand in the screenplay. Looks like the next 11 months will be rampant with speculation.

We should have two separate threads for this movie: divided into spoiler and non-spoiler threads. Similar to the Superhero Hype forums.