The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
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The Ginyus should be aware of the tail weakness, and be able to cut the tails off. Captain Ginyu should also be capable of pulling off the body change, considering how huge these targets are. Oozarus shouldn't be able to dodge effectively, considering Oozaru Vegeta's lack of maneuverability in the Saiyan arc. Guldo's time stop ability should be a huge help here. Tullece would be the biggest problem, but that's all moot if Ginyu body-swaps with him. But then, you heavily handicapped this match in favor of the Oozarus by taking away all of these advantages. They still might be able to take most of the them, just by exploiting weak spots and the Oozaru's relative lack of speed and enormous size, like drilling them with powerful energy waves through the eyes, but Tullece being there is just too much.
If you add a single member of the Armored Squadron, this turns into a completely one-sided curbstomp. Doore/Salza/Neiz waves his hand, and all of the Oozarus explode.
If you add a single member of the Armored Squadron, this turns into a completely one-sided curbstomp. Doore/Salza/Neiz waves his hand, and all of the Oozarus explode.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Read the rest of his post.RandomGuy96 wrote:The Ginyus should be aware of the tail weakness, and be able to cut the tails off. Captain Ginyu should also be capable of pulling off the body change, considering how huge these targets are. Oozarus shouldn't be able to dodge effectively, considering Oozaru Vegeta's lack of maneuverability in the Saiyan arc. Tullece would be the biggest problem, but that's all moot if Ginyu body-swaps with him.
If you add a single member of the Armored Squadron, this turns into a completely one-sided curbstomp. Doore/Salza/Neiz waves his hand, and all of the Oozarus explode.
And I don't recall a lack of maneuverability ever being an issue for Vegeta in the Saiyan Arc.
If he's using the Tullece that rivals first form Freeza, then his Oozaru would be in the 5 million range, easily strong enough to crush all of these guys, plus the Armored Squadron, no matter where you place Salza (as he was weaker than Piccolo.)
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I was using Movie 3 Tullece which I pegged for having a base power lvl of 30K to about 50K, making his Oozaru form 300K to 500K. This is why I gave you guys the option to add in CAS if you felt the others weren't enough (I pegged CAS to be 200K to 300K each).
I'm not trying to handicap any side, I just thought that while the Oozaru have size and power, the other team has speed and battle smarts.
I'm not trying to handicap any side, I just thought that while the Oozaru have size and power, the other team has speed and battle smarts.
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You'll have to narrow it down more than just "Movie 3 Tullece." That's a pretty big range in and of itself.mysticboy wrote:I was using Movie 3 Tullece which I pegged for having a base power lvl of 30K to about 50K, making his Oozaru form 300K to 500K. This is why I gave you guys the option to add in CAS if you felt the others weren't enough (I pegged CAS to be 200K to 300K each).
I'm not trying to handicap any side, I just thought that while the Oozaru have size and power, the other team has speed and battle smarts.
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Well yeah lol. I guess whatever his base power lvl was right before Goku killed him. I'm not sure of how much of the fruit he had eaten at that point.Kamiccolo9 wrote:You'll have to narrow it down more than just "Movie 3 Tullece." That's a pretty big range in and of itself.
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How does Vegeta stomps by himself? Aren't Vegeta and Ginyu about even when Vegeta in oozaru? I doubt Vegeta can take him alone.Kamiccolo9 wrote:Vegeta stomps by himself. And Tullece could probably do it without transforming if you give him his highest power shown in Movie 3.mysticboy wrote:Tullece, Saiyan Arc Vegeta, King Vegeta, Nappa, Bardock, Selypa, and Raditz (all in Oozaru form) vs. The Ginyu Force, Dodoria, Zarbon, and Cui
Stipulations:
- Guldo can't stop time
Ginyu can't body switch
The Ginyu Force and the others have no knowledge about Saiyan tails or of the moon
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Vegeta would be at 180,000, while Ginyu's highest BP is 120,000. When Ginyu saw Goku at 180,000, he stated Goku was overwhelmingly more powerful than him.TheGmGoken wrote: How does Vegeta stomps by himself? Aren't Vegeta and Ginyu about even when Vegeta in oozaru? I doubt Vegeta can take him alone.
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Oh shit I was thinking of GokudbgtFO wrote:Vegeta would be at 180,000, while Ginyu's highest BP is 120,000. When Ginyu saw Goku at 180,000, he stated Goku was overwhelmingly more powerful than him.TheGmGoken wrote: How does Vegeta stomps by himself? Aren't Vegeta and Ginyu about even when Vegeta in oozaru? I doubt Vegeta can take him alone.
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Tambourine was stated to be much stronger by King Piccolo. He wins easily.Kid Buu wrote:Cymbal Vs Tambourine
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Really? Well that makes sense actually....otherwise Piccolo wouldn't send Tambourine to fight Cymbal's killer.
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Ginyu's either stronger or he steals his body. Ginyu always comes out on top.
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But what if Tenshinhan split himself into four and Ginyu switched bodies with one of them? O_O
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Think Babidi and Bibidi relationship. That would most likely be the outcomeKid Buu wrote:But what if Tenshinhan split himself into four and Ginyu switched bodies with one of them? O_O
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When Tenshinhan's ki runs out, he would become one being from the 3 remaining parts and die due to not having a part of his body. If not die, then become a cripple at least.Kid Buu wrote:But what if Tenshinhan split himself into four and Ginyu switched bodies with one of them? O_O
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Since it's Broli time:
Hakaio LSS3 Broli vs SS3 Gogeta, SS3 Gotenks, and Ultimate Gohan
The Z-Senshi are from Boo arc. This is Broli from the video games in his mightiest (meaning that LSS Broli is close to SS Gogeta), but as a LSS3, and under Babidi's Hakaio spell (more powerful than the one he used on Vegeta), which draws out his dormant power beyond its limits (Hakaio LSS3 Broli comes from DB Heroes for those who don't know). Who wins?
Hakaio LSS3 Broli vs SS3 Gogeta, SS3 Gotenks, and Ultimate Gohan
The Z-Senshi are from Boo arc. This is Broli from the video games in his mightiest (meaning that LSS Broli is close to SS Gogeta), but as a LSS3, and under Babidi's Hakaio spell (more powerful than the one he used on Vegeta), which draws out his dormant power beyond its limits (Hakaio LSS3 Broli comes from DB Heroes for those who don't know). Who wins?
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Ultimate Gohan > SSJ Gogeta because assuming the fusion dance boost is the same, there's no way SSJ Gogeta > SSJ3 Gotenks. With that being said (it changes his greatest feat) Broly decks everybody while listening to "Worst Behavior" by DrakeDBZGTKOSDH wrote:Since it's Broli time:
Hakaio LSS3 Broli vs SS3 Gogeta, SS3 Gotenks, and Ultimate Gohan
The Z-Senshi are from Boo arc. This is Broli from the video games in his mightiest (meaning that LSS Broli is close to SS Gogeta), but as a LSS3, and under Babidi's Hakaio spell (more powerful than the one he used on Vegeta), which draws out his dormant power beyond its limits (Hakaio LSS3 Broli comes from DB Heroes for those who don't know). Who wins?
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Kai >>> Z
Current Roshi/Kulilin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SSJ3 Gotenks
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Gotenks uses Galactic Donuts and takes turns with Gohan playing Roided Up Tetherball.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Since it's Broli time:
Hakaio LSS3 Broli vs SS3 Gogeta, SS3 Gotenks, and Ultimate Gohan
The Z-Senshi are from Boo arc. This is Broli from the video games in his mightiest (meaning that LSS Broli is close to SS Gogeta), but as a LSS3, and under Babidi's Hakaio spell (more powerful than the one he used on Vegeta), which draws out his dormant power beyond its limits (Hakaio LSS3 Broli comes from DB Heroes for those who don't know). Who wins?
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This is SS3 Gogeta (from DBH), not normal SS Gogeta.xmysticgohanx wrote:Ultimate Gohan > SSJ Gogeta because assuming the fusion dance boost is the same, there's no way SSJ Gogeta > SSJ3 Gotenks. With that being said (it changes his greatest feat) Broly decks everybody while listening to "Worst Behavior" by Drake
This isn't M10 LSS Broli. This is an even stronger version of the LSS Broli that could make SS Gogeta bleed, but as a LSS3.KentalSSJ6 wrote:Gotenks uses Galactic Donuts and takes turns with Gohan playing Roided Up Tetherball.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Buu Arc Krillin VS Third Form Freeza
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