"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:40 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:The red fur is a definite already. The only thing in question is his hair. It looks black almost everywhere, which it shouldn't be with that lighting if it were any other color...but the very few parts that aren't black...well, they kinda look like his LSS color. So I have no idea what is going on with his hair right now.
Perhaps they are going to do something similar to the shining effect that SSJ3's hair had. That pulsing whitish sheen it had as some way to symbolize Broly's LSSJ status or something along those lines.
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Post by miguelnuva1 » Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:08 am

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Broli has no reasoning
Bull, of course he has. I'm growing tired of people claiming that Broli is simply a mindless destructive moron.
And as a Saiyan, the desire to surpass Goku and Vegeta should be enough to drive him towards SS4.
M8 Broly yes, M10 Broly suffered from server brain damage or something.

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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:41 am

FortuneSSJ wrote:I love how they are taking all possibilities with Dragon Ball Heroes. Its a game so it doesnt change the manga/anime story. They can do whatever they want.
After Battle of Gods, Heroes was the best thing that happened to the franchise in the last years for me.

I loved this scenario
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Super Buu is WAY too short in that video.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:27 am

Kinda pointless but did that video just prove Vegetto> Gogeta?

Excited for Broly honestly

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Fri Jul 18, 2014 8:42 am

miguelnuva1 wrote:
DNA wrote:
Broli has no reasoning
Bull, of course he has. I'm growing tired of people claiming that Broli is simply a mindless destructive moron.
And as a Saiyan, the desire to surpass Goku and Vegeta should be enough to drive him towards SS4.
M8 Broly yes, M10 Broly suffered from server brain damage or something.
Well, to be fair, the guy went from getting injured pretty badly and never receiving any medical attention or being given much of a chance to heal, to being frozen in ice for seven years or so. That'd mess up anyone's head. :P
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Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:24 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:I love how they are taking all possibilities with Dragon Ball Heroes. Its a game so it doesnt change the manga/anime story. They can do whatever they want.
After Battle of Gods, Heroes was the best thing that happened to the franchise in the last years for me.
Majin Janemba concept, Buu-Babidi Absorbed & Gogeta vs Innards Buu should have happened in canon somewhere. Those leave to asking for more possibilities. Heck If Xenoverse actually based its story around Heroes concepts in the means of explaining them for us that would have been an awesome game.
Hellspawn28 wrote:I never care for Goten since it felt like that they were trying to rehash kid Goku over again and make us feel "awww look how cute he is".
Thats exactly what Toriyama gets away with, recycling the same character pallet over and over again with no repercussion from the fanbase.
Li'l Lemmy wrote:I guess it makes sense that they would utilize Broli in this capacity, given that he's a "popular" enemy that DragonBall games have consistently shoehorned whenever possible (see "Attack of the Saiyans" for DS), but this thing where he's both Super Saiyan 3 and Majin is just... I mean, I'm not even sure. Great for Broli superfans, but it's probably the most stark example of fanfic aftertaste I've seen in an official product.
I really dont see the difference to a Majin Broly. What exactly would change him, would he not just hate Goku now? Might as well make a Majin-Majin Buu too or a Majin Babidi.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:26 pm

No point really talking about it now. We already know his fur is red for certain. It's the only part of the image that really has any good light on it.
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Post by hulkty » Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:08 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:Kinda pointless but did that video just prove Vegetto> Gogeta?

Excited for Broly honestly
You needed proof?... :?

Who couldn't be?! We finally got another SSj4! :D

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Post by hulkty » Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:11 pm

DevilsCorpse...you're the guy who always gets this stuff before we do. ...So... as a guess, when do you think we'll start seeing more SSj4 Broly images?

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Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:12 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:...So...we have Baby who has infested Janemba whose mind is then taken over by Babidi...and yet Super Saiyan Pan is apparently too outlandish for them to give us.

Dammit Heroes! :P
Somehow that doesnt irks me as much as a Majin Android 13. How can you possess a robot with no soul exactly? It seems like they just treat him as a failed villain and not by what he actually is. GT logic.
Gyt Kaliba wrote:Huh, I didn't even remember the 'M' being white for Freeza and Cell in Budokai 2. Maybe there's just no logic to it to begin with. :P
Its probably just aesthetic for the player to know which version they actually are. I'd probably expect the same thing if Toriyama himself was drawing them.
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I wish they would revive lesser used villains for some actual variety rather than the same ones we've seen before. Broly just doesnt die does he?

Why not a Majin Harudigarn? Or Buu absorbing Janemba? Or Majin Syn Shenron?

I still pray for a Majin Beerus or Buu-Beerus form. Thats a game crasher right there.
Zephyr wrote:The fandom's collective fetishizing of "moments" is also ridiculous to me. No, not everyone needs a fucking "shine" moment. If that's all you want, then all you want is fanservice, rather than an actual coherent story. And of course those aren't mutually exclusive; you could have a coherent story with "shine" moments! But if a story is perfectly coherent (and I'm really not seeing any compelling arguments that this one is anything but, despite constantly recurring, really poorly reasoned, attempts to argue otherwise), and you're bemoaning the lack of "shine" moments as a reason for the story's poor quality, then you're letting your thirst for "shine" moments obfuscate your ability to detect basic storytelling when it's right in front of you.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:53 pm

hulkty wrote:DevilsCorpse...you're the guy who always gets this stuff before we do. ...So... as a guess, when do you think we'll start seeing more SSj4 Broly images?
Dunno. It all depends on how they want to promote him. Some times new forms get revealed before the set releases to generate hype, sometimes you don't see them until the set's street date. I'd say probably not until at least next month's magazines, though it may not be till the month after that when the next card set and magazines releases (depending on the release dates of each).
SingleFringe&Sparks wrote:I wish they would revive lesser used villains for some actual variety rather than the same ones we've seen before. Broly just doesnt die does he?

Why not a Majin Harudigarn? Or Buu absorbing Janemba? Or Majin Syn Shenron?

I still pray for a Majin Beerus or Buu-Beerus form. Thats a game crasher right there.
They did...The game gave us a decent chunk of them in JM6, including Hirudegarn. Yi Xing Long isn't in the game yet though, so they weren't going to possess him anyway:

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Hakaio Bojack, Zangya (Enslaved), Bido (Enslaved), Gokua (Enslaved), Bujin (Enslaved)
Majin Buu: Pure (Babidi Absorbed)

Beerus is still new and fresh. I doubt they'll do anything with him yet. They don't really need to.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:38 pm

So, the only main villains that haven't been possessed by Babidi yet are Piccolo Daimao, Dr. Uiro (isn't in the game yet), Coola, Super #17, and Beerus (should I count Boo?).
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:50 pm

There is also the Shadow Dragons, Bebi Vegeta and Bebi's normal forms. He has yet to control those as well.
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Hellspawn28 wrote:There is also the Shadow Dragons, Bebi Vegeta and Bebi's normal forms. He has yet to control those as well.
Yeah and the Red Ribbon Army and Tao Pai-Pai, Raditz, Nappa, King Vegeta, Paragus, Tullece's Henchmen, Zarbon and Dodoria, the Ginyu Tokusentai, the rest of the Artificial Humans, the rest of Freeza's Clan, the Machine Mutants. Heck, let's just hope they give it to fucking everyone, right? How awesome would that be?

Anyway, I wouldn't like to see Beerus being overtaken by anyone really. The only "majins" I would like to see would be Hakaio Coola and possibly Hakaioji Piccolo, making him more like Vegeta than the rest of the Hakaio, enabling him to keep some control.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:02 pm

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TheDevilsCorpse wrote:World's Strongest is coming soon; promo of Dr. Kochin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeMqQjLXDhs
I know this is minor but do you think we could see brainwashed Ma junior ?
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:01 pm

budokaifanatic007 wrote:
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:World's Strongest is coming soon; promo of Dr. Kochin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeMqQjLXDhs
I know this is minor but do you think we could see brainwashed Ma junior ?
Ooh. I'd imagine there's no way to know for sure of course, but that would be fun, and could be one reason they didn't opt for a Majin Piccolo (or at least not yet).

Actually...hmm...I dunno what they could do with him to make him different, especially in terms of appearance...but with some work, a 'Dr. Wheelo's Brain in Goku's Body' - as in, a version where he won and got Goku's body as he wanted - would be a pretty cool character addition.
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budokaifanatic007 wrote:I know this is minor but do you think we could see brainwashed Ma junior ?
Ooh. I'd imagine there's no way to know for sure of course, but that would be fun, and could be one reason they didn't opt for a Majin Piccolo (or at least not yet).

Actually...hmm...I dunno what they could do with him to make him different, especially in terms of appearance...but with some work, a 'Dr. Wheelo's Brain in Goku's Body' - as in, a version where he won and got Goku's body as he wanted - would be a pretty cool character addition.
Yeah, I have no idea what we'll be getting. If I had to guess, probably the Bio-men, Kishime, Ebifurya, Misokattsun and Dr. Kochin as normal playable cards. Dr. Uiro is a little small to be a giant character and a little big to be a normal player character, so I don't know which option they'll take with him. Brainwashed Piccolo is a complete wildcard IMO.

I don't think we'd see a "Dr. Goku" thuogh. As far as I remember, we don't even have the Ginyu/Goku and Goku/Ginyu, which actually happened. lol
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:32 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:I don't think we'd see a "Dr. Goku" thuogh. As far as I remember, we don't even have the Ginyu/Goku and Goku/Ginyu, which actually happened. lol
Huh, really? I would have guessed we had those ages ago, with all the other options they've been throwing around.
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Post by budokaifanatic007 » Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:48 pm

I wonder if goku will get a new costume?
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