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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread

Post by dbgtFO » Sat Jul 26, 2014 5:49 pm

No way they'll revive some old irrelevant villain that featured in the series.
It's going to be a new character, perhaps a former God of Destruction.
There should be a limit to, who you can revive, because evil people have their souls reincarnated after being cleansed in Hell. It wouldn't make any sense to bring Majin Buu back for example, because he has already been reincarnated as Uub. And if it's a guy who's supposed to have been dead for thousands of years for example, there's no way it would take that long to get his soul cleansed.
It could be a guy, who was sent to Heaven as punishment or something like Dabra was, which inadvertenly made it possible to revive him.

It would be cool, if it's that guy in the silhouette in DB Xenoverse, who might be a God of Destruction from another universe(or just before Beerus) or attendant to a God of Destruction.

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Post by Dbzk1999 » Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:42 pm

I've been thinking
People have been talking about the original super saiyan god but how about a son (or descendant) of the super saiyan god who had inherited the god power (like goten and trunks basically inherited super saiyan) so this saiyan doesn't have to use pure hearted saiyans to unlock the form he has it inside of him (sort of like the legendary super saiyan is a genetic transformation) except instead of being good this saiyan was evil however they somehow kill him
Goku hears about it but, not knowing about how the son was, revives him

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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:59 pm

Dbzk1999 wrote:I've been thinking
People have been talking about the original super saiyan god but how about a son (or descendant) of the super saiyan god who had inherited the god power (like goten and trunks basically inherited super saiyan) so this saiyan doesn't have to use pure hearted saiyans to unlock the form he has it inside of him (sort of like the legendary super saiyan is a genetic transformation) except instead of being good this saiyan was evil however they somehow kill him
Goku hears about it but, not knowing about how the son was, revives him
We don't know if the power of SSJG is hereditary like SSJ is due to their methods of attainment being completely different. It can work in Goku's case since he managed to make it his base power but if the previous SSJG was unable to do what Goku did with it, I would assume that Saiyan's child would not be any stronger or weaker than it normally would. It would be like comparing Bra to Multiverse Bra.
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Post by Dbzk1999 » Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:30 am

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Dbzk1999 wrote:I've been thinking
People have been talking about the original super saiyan god but how about a son (or descendant) of the super saiyan god who had inherited the god power (like goten and trunks basically inherited super saiyan) so this saiyan doesn't have to use pure hearted saiyans to unlock the form he has it inside of him (sort of like the legendary super saiyan is a genetic transformation) except instead of being good this saiyan was evil however they somehow kill him
Goku hears about it but, not knowing about how the son was, revives him
We don't know if the power of SSJG is hereditary like SSJ is due to their methods of attainment being completely different. It can work in Goku's case since he managed to make it his base power but if the previous SSJG was unable to do what Goku did with it, I would assume that Saiyan's child would not be any stronger or weaker than it normally would. It would be like comparing Bra to Multiverse Bra.
Just like maybe him unlocking the form itself changed his genetics I mean he couldn't access the form again obviously but it sorta resided itself inside him
I've been kind of expanding more on it
Say the child was taken to another universe and trained by another god of destruction in order to harness his power until the two battle to the death (to sorta take the gods place) but when he's about to finish the god he decides he can't because he's grown attached to the god, then the god kills the saiyan for showing weakness. Being killed and feeling betrayed by a father figure results in him growing a hatred towards the gods Of destructions but as he's dead he can't enact anything, that is, until goku revived him

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Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Jul 27, 2014 1:18 am

Wasn't the original SsG killed in battle? How would his son get SSG in his DnA?

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Post by miguelnuva1 » Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:52 am

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Hellspawn28 wrote:I think they could pull off a Star Trek '09 and Mortal Kombat 9 (Mortal Kombat 2011) on us with the new wish. A new villain comes up and he uses the wish to create a new world in his vision which causes a birth to a new timeline. So the old timeline is gone and we have a new one now.
DBZ is too old to get a reboot. Star Trek and Mortal Kombat are continuing so they needed something new to keep going, DBZ is going to stop again at some point. Besides asking for a new timeline is inviting Broly and others into canon.
DC was 50ish when it was rebooted with Crisis on Infinite Earths. Godzilla was 30ish when it was rebooted in 1984, and again in 2000. Star Trek was 50ish when it was rebooted.

Dragon Ball is by no means too old for a reboot.
When I say old I mean in a sense that DBZ is not an on going series. If it was still on going or was going to be restarted I could see the reboot working but not if it's only for a movie every couple of years. Games like Xenoverse would work better for a reboot time line.

Also you talking to the wrong guy with Godzilla being rebooted. While were one subject Godzilla was rebooted 5 times from 1999-2004 and again in the 2014 film.

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Post by cesarcoronel07 » Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:58 am

This wish of despair, in my opinion, has to be with bringing either the saiyan race back, the original SSJ God, or a complete new character. There's no way it could be Broly being revived...

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:58 am

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When I say old I mean in a sense that DBZ is not an on going series. If it was still on going or was going to be restarted I could see the reboot working but not if it's only for a movie every couple of years. Games like Xenoverse would work better for a reboot time line.

Also you talking to the wrong guy with Godzilla being rebooted. While were one subject Godzilla was rebooted 5 times from 1999-2004 and again in the 2014 film.
So.....you mean exactly like Star Trek?

And I wouldn't consider the Millennium Series to be a reboot with each movie. More like each movie was an alternate universe in and of itself. You're right about the 2014 film though; forgot about it since I missed my chance to see it this summer.
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Post by Blade » Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:04 pm

Just out of interest, is there a reason why the majority of the fan theories about this wish either relate to former villains, the Saiyans or a Super Saiyan God?

Not to sound disparaging, as without any further information officially released it could still turn out to be one of the above, but is it really so hard to entertain the idea that Toriyama might be doing something completely new?
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Post by MCDaveG » Sun Jul 27, 2014 1:38 pm

Blade wrote:Just out of interest, is there a reason why the majority of the fan theories about this wish either relate to former villains, the Saiyans or a Super Saiyan God?

Not to sound disparaging, as without any further information officially released it could still turn out to be one of the above, but is it really so hard to entertain the idea that Toriyama might be doing something completely new?
It's the same situtation like with GT, when people started to dream about SSJ 4 - infinity and AF stuff, non of which was much original.
I'm also kind of puzzled, because fans on this message board usually have some original and interesting theories.

I know that no villain in DB story can work so far, maybe if there were some mechanics enhancing his potential. Another Saiyan or SSJ God? Boring as hell. My bet is on another Godly being!

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Post by Big Momma » Sun Jul 27, 2014 2:25 pm

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When I say old I mean in a sense that DBZ is not an on going series. If it was still on going or was going to be restarted I could see the reboot working but not if it's only for a movie every couple of years. Games like Xenoverse would work better for a reboot time line.
...Why would you reboot something that's still going on? Fresh in the public's eye?
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Post by B » Sun Jul 27, 2014 2:54 pm

Blade wrote:Just out of interest, is there a reason why the majority of the fan theories about this wish either relate to former villains, the Saiyans or a Super Saiyan God?
It was stated that the new film will follow after Battle of Gods, so overzealous folk have taken that to literally mean a direct sequel. As in, seconds after the end of BoG, or something.
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Post by Blade » Sun Jul 27, 2014 3:07 pm

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Blade wrote:Just out of interest, is there a reason why the majority of the fan theories about this wish either relate to former villains, the Saiyans or a Super Saiyan God?
It was stated that the new film will follow after Battle of Gods, so overzealous folk have taken that to literally mean a direct sequel. As in, seconds after the end of BoG, or something.
Yeah, I get that much - but I just don't understand how the 'I want you to revive someone' seems to be more or less entirely only producing the three theories of 'Broli', 'The Saiyans' or 'The Original Super Saiyan God' (which as a concept, just sounds like Broli anyway).

The Dragonball franchise has suffered so badly with regurgitation of characters, story-lines and concepts over the years, and it just makes me despair when we're getting something brand new, and it feels like whatever comes out, half of the fanbase are going to be disappointing because it wont involve digging up something old like Broli.
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Post by Chuquita » Sun Jul 27, 2014 3:30 pm

I'm still holding out a bit of hope for that reality-warper I thought Beerus was gonna be. Sort of a Janemba and Cell mixture of a character.
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Post by miguelnuva1 » Sun Jul 27, 2014 4:20 pm

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When I say old I mean in a sense that DBZ is not an on going series. If it was still on going or was going to be restarted I could see the reboot working but not if it's only for a movie every couple of years. Games like Xenoverse would work better for a reboot time line.
...Why would you reboot something that's still going on? Fresh in the public's eye?
DBZ ended in 92 and hasn't really been touch upon in a big way where something like Mortal Kombat gets a new game every few years.

Had DBZ picked up every few years and had become semi on going I would say reboot it because eventually there would be no where for Goku to go. Right now we still have 11 other universes of people to fight.

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Post by Retan » Sun Jul 27, 2014 4:23 pm

DBZ ended in 95

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Post by sintzu » Sun Jul 27, 2014 4:30 pm

Don't we get enough reboots and retconning in comics ? There's no need for manga to be like that as well
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Post by dbgtFO » Sun Jul 27, 2014 4:34 pm

@Retan
It actually ended in 1996, 31st of January.
The DB manga ended in 95, of course, but DBZ, the anime, ended up going on for 8 months more.

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Post by Retan » Sun Jul 27, 2014 4:36 pm

well it didn't end in 92 that's all I was trying to say.

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Post by Chuquita » Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:37 pm

Question! Could the lack of an announcement regarding the Animation Director mean they haven't hired one yet? BOG announced it right away with some of the others involved.
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