"Sparking! NEO" (PS2/Wii)

[Olivier Hague]

Mike, can you maybe clarify what the hell this exactly is?

I'm not Mike, but it's a demo.

Check any game manual going back to the first Nintendo; the end user agreement states that you agree to not resell the game, because technically it doesn't belong to you.

I just checked one of my game manuals, and it doesn't say anything like that.

they're liscensed distributers and they can sell games. They have contracts to do so.

But they sell used games. Meaning that they sell games that have been (illegally, according to you) sold to them by other people who aren't "licensed distributors".

[jwimz]

Well, Nintendo had their Wii conference today to announce that the Wii will launch Nov 19 (2 days after PS3 launch) for $250 in North and South America. Will include "Wii-mote" and nunchaku (the joystick attachment) and Wii Sports will be bundled in.

In gamespot's conference footage, one of the people from Gamespot said that BT2 for the Wii will be released around launch time. He didn't say specifically so I'll thinking sometime late November to mid-December at the latest.

[Olivier Hague]

In gamespot's conference footage, one of the people from Gamespot said that Sparking! NEO for the Wii will be released around launch time.

Was he talking about "Dragon Ball Z Sparking! Neo" or "Dragon Ball Z Budokai Tenkaichi 2"? Because the Japanese release date for the Wii is December 2.

[jwimz]

BT 2...maybe I should change that post then. It's odd though Wii will be released in America Nov 19 but in Japan on Dec 2. You would think that it would release there first.

[Li'l Lemmy]

All right, then:

A Nintendo representative (Reggie) said that the Wii system is region-free, so this allows us a bit of strategy in how we buy.

The American version will release earlier, and will be bundled with the Wii Sports game. As Jwimz already mentioned, it sells for $250. In all honesty? . . . that's not too bad, considering how much it could have sold for.

The Japanese version releases later. However, it does not include the Wii Sports. It will apparently sell for $213. Thus, anyone who won't miss the sports game can have the Wii imported from Japan at a lower price (minus international shipping) and still play all the games that will have been released in America by then (Twilight Princess, and maybe even Tenkaichi 2). If you want to save some dollars, its about a two-week wait apart from the America launch.

As for Budokai Tenkaichi 2 (Wii version), IGN has listed it as an official launch title. However, I would place it as being somewhere around launch, given the constant fog of uncertainty we've had to deal with this far.

[Olivier Hague]

A Nintendo representative (Reggie) said that the Wii system is region-free

The console is, yeah. The games? That's another matter.

[_Jrinu_]

Uhh... But if the console is region free, then it doesn't matter what region the games are, because they can all play in it.

[DBZ MAN]

Goku Forming Spirit Bomb

Goku Releasing Sprit Bomb

[kvon]

Goku Forming Spirit Bomb

Goku Releasing Sprit Bomb

I think the spirit bomb looks much better than the one in Sparking!. Although personally, I still think Budokai 3's looks better than this.

Here's a video of someone playing Sparking! NEO with the Wii.
http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en ... uage_tools

[AceSharp]

Check any game manual going back to the first Nintendo; the end user agreement states that you agree to not resell the game, because technically it doesn't belong to you. The game remains property of the company, and it is liscensed to you for priavate use. It's stupid, but this is the way it's always been.

Really? Over here in the UK, there's never ben any problems with this. Games shops do trade-ins and all sorts of stuff.


Just a heads up in case it hasn't been posted...

1) http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k26/d ... jackie.jpg

Jackie Chun can, apparantly, fly...

and 2) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/ ... additz.jpg

I'm REALLY liking the look of this.

[Drunken Master]

But they sell used games. Meaning that they sell games that have been (illegally, according to you) sold to them by other people who aren't "licensed distributors".

It's not that hard of a concept. I don't see why someone should explain it... It's illegal to sell your games to your friends and make self-profit. You don't represent anyone but yourself. Stores like Gamestop who have liscences to sell companies games, software and hardware can sell used games and make self-profit because they infact sell the companies newest games, software and hardware which in turn gives those gaming companies big profit. It's like a reward for the stores. I'm betting those gaming companies make a much bigger percentage of the profit then the distributer, when in turn the store makes probably all the profit from used games. It's a balance. Those stores ONLY sell games, not like Wal*Mart that pretty much sells everything. They have to make enough profit to stay in business.

On other things...

Of course Jackie Chun can fly.

[Olivier Hague]

Uhh... But if the console is region free, then it doesn't matter what region the games are, because they can all play in it.

The console being region-free simply means that you can make region-free games. But you can also choose not to.
Nintendô said that their games would be region-free, but they don't know about third-party games (like the one we're talking about in this topic).

Did you know that both Xbox consoles were region-free? It doesn't really show, since most games are still locked.

It's illegal to sell your games to your friends and make self-profit.

And selling them to stores like Gamestop is OK... why? You make self-profit there as well.

Stores like Gamestop who have liscences to sell companies games, software and hardware can sell used games and make self-profit because they infact sell the companies newest games, software and hardware which in turn gives those gaming companies big profit.

And again, how did they get the used games in the first place? They bought it from people. Illegally, according to you.
See the problem?

[VegettoEX]

This is a Sparking! NEO topic. K. Please. Thanks.

(And why the fuck is everyone throwing in the "ô" around so needlessly? Geeze.)

[Olivier Hague]

(And why the fuck is everyone throwing in the "ô" around so needlessly? Geeze.)

Well, is it wrong?
Why complain, then?

[EvilGamerX]

So now that we know the Wii is coming out in the US before Japan and that this game is a launch title.... can that be bad? Do you think Japan will add anything extra?

[jwimz]

I doubt that they will add any extra (but I'm probably wrong). But American and Japanese versions aren't released too far apart at all. I'm kinda dissappointed with the roster, I would much rather have more DB characters then movie characters. I'm hoping that the special moves are a lot like Budokai 3, where they show a cutscene instead of how they appeared in BT.

Oh and off topic (and not trying to cause an arguement)
The console is region free meaning it can play any regions games, non-regional media (dvd/cd/umd) mean you can play them on any region's players but if the player's are region free then it doesn't matter what the media is. For instance DS's are region free but PSP's are quasi-region free (they can play any games but only specific region movies)

[VegettoEX]

Well, is it wrong?
Why complain, then?

Neither is writing out bejiita and seru and torankusu as characters' names, but good fucking god, man. Last I checked, the company spells it a certain way worldwide. It looks like someone found an awesome new keystroke combination and wants to abuse it to look "smart" and "awesome" and "super cool" and "insert lame-ass internet catch phrase here that I wouldn't understand anyway".

I'm playing the card of "I'm the asshole hypocritical administrator, and that ends that conversation". Deal.

So now that we know the Wii is coming out in the US before Japan and that this game is a launch title.... can that be bad? Do you think Japan will add anything extra?

Extra to the Wii version? I doubt it. Remember that the PS2 version is still set for October 5th, or whatever, and since the Wii isn't coming out in the US until November 19th, and the Japanese Wii launch isn't too far after that... I think it's pretty safe to assume there won't be a crapton of differences among the different versions (ESPECIALLY between the US/JP versions), other than (1) the [obvious] control differences between PS2 and Wii, and (2) if they happen to include Neko Majin Z in the JP version .

Wow, that was quite a run-on sentence. My bad.

[Olivier Hague]

The console is region free meaning it can play any regions games, non-regional media (dvd/cd/umd) mean you can play them on any region's players but if the player's are region free then it doesn't matter what the media.

While there may be a region lock that third-party publishers can choose to turn on, Nintendo seems to be setting the standard by making its own first-party games region free.
http://blog.wired.com/games/index.blog?entry_id=1556591

And like I said above, that's also true for both Xbox consoles... Unfortunately, most Xbox games are locked.

[Olivier Hague]

Neither is writing out bejiita and seru and torankusu as characters' names

"Nintendô" is a Japanese name. The names you listed aren't.

It looks like someone found an awesome new keystroke combination

I have a French keyboard, so there's no keystroke combination involved, actually.

and wants to abuse it to look "smart" and "awesome" and "super cool" and "insert lame-ass internet catch phrase here that I wouldn't understand anyway".

Or it could just be that I can't unlearn Japanese, and I'm used to that spelling.
Plus it happens to be an entirely valid spelling, so I'm not sure what your problem is. I doubt it was worth complaining though.

[EvilGamerX]

I dunno, if something extra was put in, I wouldn't be too surprised.

Also, I don't think this has been posted (if so, oh well)....
http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=2753
US Trailer.