Vegeta Appreciation thread

[sintzu]

This isn't my idea it's TheGmGoken's

So what do you all think of the prince of saiyans ?

To me he's my favorite character and that's because of how well written he is from his epic fights to his character development and being one of the first characters to be written as a second protagonist which from what i read wasn't much of a thing at the time like it is now


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[Zephyr]

While I wouldn't consider him my favorite character, he is the big bad of my favorite arc, so he's automatically got some bonus points there.

I really enjoy him as a character in the Saiyan and Namek arcs. Just a cunning, ruthless bastard. Later on in the Buu arc we see break new ground in his character development, putting his pride on the line more than once for the sake of others. Then in Battle of Gods he progresses even further, to the point where he was willing to make a complete fool out of himself (which was also good for a laugh).

[TrunksTrevelyan0064]

Having read the Namek part of the manga recently, I really like him during the early-Namek parts, when he takes out Freeza's men left and right, and steals the Dragon Balls right from under Freeza's nose.

After that, though, he becomes obsessed with "I AM THE SUPER SAIYAN" which, while understandable from his point of view, becomes really annoying to hear over and over. Then when he finally attains the form, he can't stop bragging about how he's the strongest. On top of that, he lets Cell absorb #18 which is possibly the worst decision Vegeta has ever made.

Thankfully, he begins to cool down during the Cell Game and throughout the rest of the series (barring the whole Majin thing).

In short, I do like him as a character, he certainly adds an interesting dynamic to the group of heroes. I just wish he used his strategic mind more during the rest of the story, rather than going "I AM THE STRONGEST" without thinking.
It's like, I know you're obsessed with surpassing 'Kakarotto', but you have proven in the past that you have a brain. Why not try using it now? It may actually help you think up a clever way to defeat Goku.

[TheGmGoken]

Use my ideas before I leave huh .

Just kidding. Glad to see more appreciation threads.

I'll say that Vegeta was accidentally the best devolped character in the franchise. He came from being a asshole bitch to a guy singing Bingo and shouting "MY BULMA". PRETTY good to see how Vegeta changed over time. A nice character indeed.

[Valerius Dover]

Well, I really like Vegeta when he's put into these ridiculous moments, because his tsundere moments are hilarious. Bulma calling him cute at the end of the Frieza Saga, his pink shirt in the Trunks Saga, and now we have his bingo scene in Battle of Gods.

[Doctor.]

He's probably my second favorite character so you can see I like him a lot. I only started to like him a whole bunch, though, at the start of the Android arc and he only become one of my favorites by the end of the Cell Games. He's also the main reason I like the Buu arc so that's a plus.

[DarkPrince_92]

Hands down the most interesting character in the series, and my favorite. Namek Arc is my favorite arc in regards to Vegeta's actions. Dude was a great villain turned anti-hero. His ruthless demeanor and attitude is what does it for me. He also works hard and has a ton of pride, I take a page out if his book when it comes to working out. Honestly, if it wasn't for his selfish decisions and mistakes, the other fighters wouldn't have gotten as strong as they did. He's an asshole a lot of the time, constantly calling the other Z warriors "scum", and I love it. Also, he has the best outfits, even if their all variations of Saiyan armor. He was my go to character in every DBZ game ever. Hail the Prince of Saiyans! - End of fanboying.

Allegedly he's to play a big role in the next movie(?) Not sure how true that is, but I'm excited.

[Doctor.]

Hands down the most interesting character in the series, and my favorite. Namek Arc is my favorite arc in regards to Vegeta's actions. Dude was a great villain turned anti-hero. His ruthless demeanor and attitude is what does it for me. He also works hard and has a ton of pride, I take a page out if his book when it comes to working out. Honestly, if it wasn't for his selfish decisions and mistakes, the other fighters wouldn't have gotten as strong as they did. He's an asshole a lot of the time, constantly calling the other Z warriors "scum", and I love it. Also, he has the best outfits, even if their all variations of Saiyan armor. He was my go to character in every DBZ game ever. Hail the Prince of Saiyans! - End of fanboying.

Allegedly he's to play a big role in the next movie(?) Not sure how true that is, but I'm excited.

Interesting, the least I liked Vegeta was in the Namek arc. He was a cocky and arrogant punk with too much ego even though he was made a bitch by tons of people. In the Saiyajin arc he was a typical villain, so I can't say I disliked him there.

[sintzu]

I do like him as a character, he certainly adds an interesting dynamic to the group of heroes. I just wish he used his strategic mind more during the rest of the story, rather than going "I AM THE STRONGEST" without thinking.

In the Cell arc he was the first to reach the 2 ascended ssj levels and in the Buu arc he was smart enough to let babidi control him and come up with the genki dama plan so he definitely used he's strategic mind after the Frieza saga but it's obviously out shined with what he did thanks to his pride

Allegedly he's to play a big role in the next movie(?) Not sure how true that is, but I'm excited.

The only thing that has been said by Toriyama is he wants him to be the main character of the movie but that could have changed or even saved for another movie

But seeing how big of a role he has in the manga and the last movie and him saying he'll be the next ssjg i think it's safe to say he'll have a big role here as well but how big remains to be seen

[TKA]

This is a good thread.

I love Vegeta. Absolute best-developed character in Dragonball, and more importantly, the most consistently-written.

There's quite a bit to this character, and over the years I've developed my a weird interpretation of him

[Vijay]

Easily one of the best Anti-Hero character ever created in Anime/Manga. Sure, guys like Sesshoumaru, Yagami Light, Sasuke have their respective badassery, but Veggie definetly ranks among Top-tiers.

Wasn't impressed when he was shown in Saiyan Arc. Bowled me over by Frieza Arc. Vegeta's character hits its peak here. Betrayal, smart leadership (Both against Ginyu & Frieza), playing mind-games with everyone with single objective: Survival. Fighting against all odds to gain Immortality.

Cell Saga Vegeta is an absolute fan-service, at least for me. Toriyama upgraded Vegeta (as SSJ) & used him wisely. Added different layers to his character (Father-Son relationship), Pride being his downfall (which results in Goku's death & his eventual Atonement in Buu Arc).

Majin Vegeta!!!! MY BOY! Arrives, Kicks Asses, Leaves!

Wasn't impressed with Toriyama's handling of Vegeta in later Buu Arc (Fusion~Kid Buu). Vastly underpowered, played his small (of which should've been an otherwise lengthy) role & became mere spectator by EoZ.

I knw this is an Appreciation thread, but Vegeta's character just got buried 10 Feet with BOG. Danced like joker, got utterly owned, simply been there, done that kinda, extended cameo role. Never been ashamed of being a Vegeta fan, but BOG actually did that!

[sintzu]

Wasn't impressed with Toriyama's handling of Vegeta in later Buu Arc (Fusion~Kid Buu). Vastly underpowered, played his small (of which should've been an otherwise lengthy) role & became mere spectator by EoZ.

I knw this is an Appreciation thread, but Vegeta's character just got buried 10 Feet with BOG. Danced like joker, got utterly owned.

Goku was also underpowered compared to Kid Buu and he had ssj3 so wanting Vegeta to have done more with ssj2 isn't realistic.

The dancing shows that his family,friends and earth are more important to him then his pride which is big character development for him.

He did more to Beerus in ssj2 then goku did in ssj3 and you still consider that getting owned ? What did you want him to do,Kill Beerus ? Goku with ssjg didn't do much better let alone someone who only has ssj2

If you want to see Vegeta get buried then go watch Gt,In Z when Vegeta loses it makes sense while in Gt...Just go watch it and see for your self.

[Vijay]

@Sintzu

Why are you getting mad? Was saying my opinion. I said good things about Vegeta for about 3 paragraphs since this is appreciation thread. I've said good things about him. But also voiced my displeasure over his Handling, NOT Vegeta in later Buu Arc.

I've watched GT, so no need to "see for yourself" me. Glorified extended cameo by Vegeta in it. Nothing when compared to stuffs he did in Z.

I fuckin loath BOG. I dont get the hype with Vegeta momentarily surpassed Goku, while Goku himself got owned. I dont buy such trivial stuffs which means a lot to some fans.

Peace.

[Kid Buu]

I think he made for a great villain in the Saiyan Saga; from his chemistry with Nappa to his battle with Earthlings.

Namek Saga is awesome because of how strategic and cunning he was on those arcs.

[sintzu]

Why are you getting mad? Was saying my opinion.

I've watched GT, so no need to "see for yourself".

You think I'm mad cause i replayed to what you said ? No not at all and sorry if i came off like that,That wasn't my intention at all

If i offended you by saying this then I'm sorry but the way you described him in the last movie gave me the impression that you didn't see Gt

[trick007z]

He's easily the most complex character of the series and has the most developed character arc.

Dragon Ball is a bit repetitive in that it takes a character from most arcs and makes them a hero in the main cast.

-Yamcha starts as a villain, by the end of the saga is a hero.
-Krillin is a rival who becomes Goku's friend by the end of their training.
-Tenshinan is Goku's friend by the end of the tournament.
-Piccolo Jr is a villain. Then in the very next arc he goes from an uneasy ally to a hero midway through the arc.
-18 is good guy at the end of the Android/Cell arc
-Fat Buu is a good guy by the end of his arc.

Then you have Vegeta. Vegeta didn't become straight up hero until the Buu arc. He's a flat out villain in the Saiyan arc. He's a murderous antihero, who is really just using the heroes to gain immortality, during the Namek arc. In the Android/Cell saga he's really just sticking around to get stronger than Goku so he can eventually beat him, then he's fighting for his ego. He laments that he didn't get to defeat Goku before he died. Then he becomes a good guy in the Buu saga.

If you really think about it the Buu arc is Vegeta's character arc more than anyone else. He starts out by going back to his roots because he's still obsessed with beating Goku and proving he's the mightiest Saiyan. He gets to the point where he believes renouncing all his Earthly attachments that he's grown fond of is the answer. He kills indiscriminately once again, and appears to have taken a step all the way back to the Saiyan saga. Then he finds he can't do it and has to forego his war with Goku to take care of Buu. Then he does the first selfless thing he probably ever did in the series by sacrificing himself to kill Buu moments after hearing that he would gain nothing from it and would still most likely lose his body and go to hell. Then in the lead up to fusing with Goku he is forced to finally accept that the Saiyan race, his greatest golden carrot, is over and that he has to move forward and work on what he has on Earth. Finally, he gets over his hate of Goku and accepts that he is the superior fighter. Then he actually gets the last fight with Buu as the weakest character to face him, knowing that he is at full risk of dying once again (and probably never being revived), and he takes a one sided beating to enable Goku to takeout the final big bad of the series. Incidentally it's worth noting that GT mirrors this in the fight with the final Shadow Dragon, where Vegeta is the last hero to stand against him before Goku can deal the finishing blow once again.

He was probably at his best in the Namek arc when he really was a bad guy for the entire story. He was killing with no prejudice. He blatantly only sided with the heroes as a ploy to gain immortality. And he only fought Freeza because of he was going to be killed otherwise and he had a previous grudge. That was probably the greyest a character in the series has ever been in a series where it's usually very black and white.

[TKA]

This is a thread I can get behind.

As far as anime goes, Vegeta's transition from omnicidal narcissist to what he became at the end of the series is the most believable and most palatable I've seen. Easily my favorite character in any story, period.

[Kakacarrottop]

He's a nice addition to the cast there's no doubt about that, but honestly i liked Piccolo better as the show's "badie turned good" character, although obviously he is a lot less popular since he actually went on to develop a moral base. Vegeta's fanbase (especially the Youtube portion) sometimes really try to make him out to be deeper than he really is, a lot of them are like "OMG VEEGATA IS KEWL3R THAN GAYKU HE SHOULD BE DA MAIN CHARACTER IN DEEEBIIZE". In essence he's a stock anime rival who turned it up a notch by being a sadistic mass murderer.

[Tatakae!!Ramenman]

Goku used to be my favorite character when I was little, but now that I'm older, Vegeta has become my favorite. He had so much character development. I liked that his transition to becoming a good guy was more gradual and bumpy than piccolo's. When I rewatch the series now, it seems like vegeta actually trained harder than Goku did to me. I love seeing him train so hard after before the androids come trying so desperately to be stronger than Goku. I feel so bad for Vegeta when he's recapping his rivalry with Goku during Goku's fight with Buu; He worked so hard but he could never catch up to Goku. All of Vegeta's struggling through the series to be better than Goku also made it really satisfying when he admitted Goku was better than him.

[RandomGuy96]

I like him as a villain and a punching bag (Saiyan arc, Namek arc, Buu arc). As has been said, he was a very cunning and tactical character in the Namek arc, and served his purpose amazingly in the Saiyan arc. From his rapport with his henchmen to his smug, arrogant demeanor to his brutal and badass battle with Goku, Krillin, Yajirobe, and Gohan, Vegeta was nearly the perfect villain for a series like this. I also liked when Buu beat him to near-death until he could barely move and was vomiting blood, and then laughed off his big final sacrifice.

I hate him as an anti-hero, or someone who's meant to actually be "good" in any way (Android arc, end of Buu arc, post-Buu material). The traits that make him a good villain just make him aggravating when you put him on the side of the heroes (I don't really consider him to be on the same side as Gohan and co in the Namek arc), and I just do NOT buy his so-called development. More importantly, the characters around him all look worse for letting him live after all the shit he pulls. For helping Cell, if nothing else.