Until I see the scan of the full page myself, I'll take the word of this site over yours, sorry.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:It's not the official Potara multiplier. There is no official Potara multiplier. The image simply says that Goku & Vegeta make Vegetto, it says nothing about battle powers.
Was this outright stated? Or just implied?Kaboom wrote:and two, all other things being equal, the Potara yields a stronger warrior than the Fusion Dance.
Goku is like "Hey! Me and Gohan gonna fuse and beat up Buu!....maybe..."Ultimate_Nova_X wrote:Was this outright stated? Or just implied?Kaboom wrote:and two, all other things being equal, the Potara yields a stronger warrior than the Fusion Dance.
Cipher wrote:If Vegeta does not kill Gohan, I will stop illegally streaming the series.
Malik_DBNA wrote:"Achievement Unlocked: Rule 34"Scarz wrote:Malik, stop. People are asking me for lewd art of possessed Bra (with Vegeta).
That doesn't tell me much. Rou Kaioushin could be referring to the dance itself which makes the fusees wide open while performing it, or how it allows absolutely zero margin of error, or even the fact that Boo might just stall for 30 minutes.Kamiccolo9 wrote:Goku is like "Hey! Me and Gohan gonna fuse and beat up Buu!....maybe..."Ultimate_Nova_X wrote:Was this outright stated? Or just implied?Kaboom wrote:and two, all other things being equal, the Potara yields a stronger warrior than the Fusion Dance.
Old Kaioshin be like "Calm down. That dance ain't gonna cut it. You gonna need real moves to take down Buu. Take this earring!"
Goku goes "Coolness. Now we got this!"
You can always go with the manga, the kids one shot Avo and Cado. They (Avo and Cado) fused without throwing a single punch.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Wouldn't the statement in the JSAT put the base kids on Freeza's level? Which would contradict what BoG says about base Goku vs FP Freeza? The JSAT statement also comes from Tarble, who has First Form Freeza in his mind... making the base kids around 1st Form Freeza's level. But this is impossible going by the manga, which shows that the kids are stronger than #18 (who is far stronger than Freeza), and not extremely behind the adult Saiyans (while in the same form)...
Best quality I could find, from the DBZ: Son Goku Densetsu guidebook:Ultimate_Nova_X wrote:Until I see the scan of the full page myself, I'll take the word of this site over yours, sorry.
As for the Vegetto one from SEG:Herms wrote:The scan with anime Gotenks is from DBZ Son Goku Densetsu, and says Gotenks has "many times" the power of Goten/Trunks on their own.
And, I hope I got you covered now.Herms wrote:Well, the caption in the book just says "Goku x Vegeta = Vegetto".
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
Could you point out where it says "Battle Power," please? I'll admit, my Japanese is quite limited.Ultimate_Nova_X wrote:None of you can read Japanese it seems.
Anyway, thanks for the scan, it's now confirmed that Vegetto's BP is in fact "Goku x Vegeta".
Cipher wrote:If Vegeta does not kill Gohan, I will stop illegally streaming the series.
Malik_DBNA wrote:"Achievement Unlocked: Rule 34"Scarz wrote:Malik, stop. People are asking me for lewd art of possessed Bra (with Vegeta).
It's the vertical text left of SSJ3 Goku.Kamiccolo9 wrote:Could you point out where it says "Battle Power," please? I'll admit, my Japanese is quite limited.
Or "Power Level," or "BP." Any of those would work.
Thank you. What does it say? Since it's not on the same part of the page as the "Goku x Vegeta" stuff, I assume it says more than just "Battle Power."Ultimate_Nova_X wrote:It's the vertical text left of SSJ3 Goku.Kamiccolo9 wrote:Could you point out where it says "Battle Power," please? I'll admit, my Japanese is quite limited.
Or "Power Level," or "BP." Any of those would work.
Cipher wrote:If Vegeta does not kill Gohan, I will stop illegally streaming the series.
Malik_DBNA wrote:"Achievement Unlocked: Rule 34"Scarz wrote:Malik, stop. People are asking me for lewd art of possessed Bra (with Vegeta).
But it has nothing to do with the "formula". Or rather, it kills the theory that the "formula" is a formula, since it says that the Potara fusion is closer to multiplication than addition, not literal multiplication.On p.63 it describes the Potara fusion as being closer to multiplication rather than simple addition in the way it increases power.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
The first line up to “奇跡の合体！” isn't important.Kamiccolo9 wrote:Thank you. What does it say? Since it's not on the same part of the page as the "Goku x Vegeta" stuff, I assume it says more than just "Battle Power."Ultimate_Nova_X wrote:It's the vertical text left of SSJ3 Goku.Kamiccolo9 wrote:Could you point out where it says "Battle Power," please? I'll admit, my Japanese is quite limited.
Or "Power Level," or "BP." Any of those would work.
I'd still like to know what the line says.Ultimate_Nova_X wrote: The first line up to “奇跡の合体！” isn't important.
Cipher wrote:If Vegeta does not kill Gohan, I will stop illegally streaming the series.
Malik_DBNA wrote:"Achievement Unlocked: Rule 34"Scarz wrote:Malik, stop. People are asking me for lewd art of possessed Bra (with Vegeta).
Looking at the scan, it says nothing like that.On p.63 it describes the Potara fusion as being closer to multiplication rather than simple addition in the way it increases power.
RiiightDBZGTKOSDH wrote:But it has nothing to do with the "formula". Or rather, it kills the theory that the "formula" is a formula, since it says that the Potara fusion is closer to multiplication than addition, not literal multiplication.
Then go ahead an tell us exactly what it says.Ultimate_Nova_X wrote:Looking at the scan, it says nothing like that.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
, but if you guys can make conclusions while being illiterate to the source in the first place, anything is valid. 
Ideally anyway.TheDevilsCorpse wrote:That's exactly the kind of stuff this community tries to avoid.
Close enough. But wait, if this was translated way back when, did people just forget about it or something?TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Anyway, the line was already translated rather directly back when the book was first released.
- "The power-up from merging isn't a sum of the two’s battle powers, but rather as tremendous as multiplication
No, we diddn;t forget. As it was translated, it falls directly in line with the statement on the site about it being "closer to multiplication rather than simple addition in the way it increases power". " As tremendous as multiplication" is not saying the same thing as it being multiplication, as I've already discussed in this very thread a few pages back.Ultimate_Nova_X wrote:Close enough. But wait, if this was translated way back when, did people just forget about it or something?
At this point, I can only bother to say that you're wrong.TheDevilsCorpse wrote:No, we diddn;t forget. As it was translated, it falls directly in line with the statement on the site about it being "closer to multiplication rather than simple addition in the way it increases power". " As tremendous as multiplication" is not saying the same thing as it being multiplication, as I've already discussed in this very thread a few pages back.Ultimate_Nova_X wrote:Close enough. But wait, if this was translated way back when, did people just forget about it or something?
