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Would you be okay if someone else took over Dragon Ball?

Post by Doctor. » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:42 pm

Similar to the "If another mangaka wrote Dragon Ball thread" but different. Not asking how would you think Dragon Ball could have been re-written, but instead how would you react to the news that someone would be doing all Dragon Ball related manga and movies from, let's say, 2020 on-wards? Let's say, for example, Naho Ooishi. Or Toyotaro? Would you be okay? Would you hate it and call everything garbage? Or would you not care? Regardless of your reaction, what do you think a change in author permanently could bring to the Dragon Ball franchise?

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Re: Would you be okay if someone else took over Dragon Ball?

Post by Chuquita » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:54 pm

I feel like, ultimately, anything that's written by someone other than the author, about characters that aren't your own; officially approved by the author or not, is still fanfiction, imo. It could be good or bad, but it's still someone else's work. You could try your hardest to write in someone else's style, but your own style's still gonna bleed through.

Now bringing in someone else to do artwork while Toriyama writes (with Torishima or another good editor to balance Toriyama out) that I'd be all for.

Like something written by Toriyama, edited by Torishima, and drawn by Toyotaro would be ideal, imo.
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Re: Would you be okay if someone else took over Dragon Ball?

Post by xmysticgohanx » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:58 pm

As long as they layed out an official canon that had movie 5 in it, I wouldn't care
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Re: Would you be okay if someone else took over Dragon Ball?

Post by dae428 » Sat Aug 23, 2014 2:06 am

A bit of yeah and nah. The thing about Dragon Ball for me is the art just as much as it is the story. So even if Toriyama were to create the story and some other guy were to draw, it still wouldn't really feel like Dragon Ball to me. But then again if you were talking about an anime or a movie... hmmm... Regardless, if Toriyama didn't have a decent chunk of creative control over any project I would at the least be very skeptical to say the least. Then again if it were just some random special or movie, I wouldn't mind too much. I mean look at the original Bardock special.

Ugh, I'm being very wishy-washy and unfocused with this. If the main story were to be continued by someone other than Toriyama in the main continuity manga form I wouldn't be alright with it, but I'd give it a chance. But a movie or special (in anime, manga, or even the dreaded live action form)? I wouldn't mind at all since I can just easily wash it away from my own sense of canon like the Episode of Bardock.

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Re: Would you be okay if someone else took over Dragon Ball?

Post by Dbzfan94 » Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:12 am

As much as i love DB, i wouldn't want a new series at all, so no.
Like others have said, it wouldn't be Dragon Ball, in story and/or art.
Even stuff by Ooshi i'm a little iffy about, *cough*EpisodeOfBardock*cough* but i'd much rather Toriyama never do anything DB again then have someone else take over.

Yeah i know it sounds close-minded but it wouldn't be the same series i loved for so many years

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Re: Would you be okay if someone else took over Dragon Ball?

Post by sintzu » Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:29 am

Overall no one as of now has written dragon ball with the quality that Toriyama does so no,If Toriyama for whatever reason doesn't want to write it anymore then leave it be but from his interviews he's having fun and likes writing as long as there's no big drawing involved like the manga so i doubt he will stop anytime soon
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Re: Would you be okay if someone else took over Dragon Ball?

Post by trout » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:30 am

What I wouldn't mind seeing is another author writing their own story with their own characters but in the same universe/setting. So you still have Capsule Corp, the Dragon Balls, Namekians, Saiyans and other concepts/ideas borrowed from the series but original characters instead of someone else trying to write Goku and co.

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Re: Would you be okay if someone else took over Dragon Ball?

Post by Vijay » Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:08 am

I'd suck. As simple as that!

As if GT, Kai, half-baked specials & final nail in the coffin, disastrous latest DBZ film installment weren't "PROOF" that DragonBall has been "officially" took-over by Money-greed Corporate company..

DBZ has ended period. Fortunately, the franchise has staying power (thanks to its fans even after 10-15 years). But that doesn't give excuse for whatever Corporate Company to shove down our throat mediocre-to-plain useless installments...

I still think Togashi & Rumiko Takahashi would do better in-terms of adventure, plotting with complex & smart writing. DragonBall charm/magic will still be preserved. Oda/Kishimoto/Tite Kubu trio however would destroy DBZ charm by sacrificing character designs & likable characterizations for plot/depth.

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Re: Would you be okay if someone else took over Dragon Ball?

Post by Doctor. » Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:10 am

Honestly can't see why people consider Togashi to be similar to Toriyama in writing at all, for the Dragon Ball style to continue in case he does miraculously takes over the franchise.

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Re: Would you be okay if someone else took over Dragon Ball?

Post by sintzu » Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:45 am

Vijay wrote: As if GT, Kai, half-baked specials & final nail in the coffin, disastrous latest DBZ film installment weren't "PROOF" that DragonBall has been "officially" took-over by Money-greed Corporate company..

DBZ has ended period.
You think the manga and anime were made as charity ? From day 1 dragon ball was created ONLY to make $$$ for the companies and the same goes for any other entertainment franchise.

Dbz is still going strong with Kai,New movies,Games and more
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Re: Would you be okay if someone else took over Dragon Ball?

Post by Rukura » Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:08 am

Replying to the original post, we already have that. Twice. With Dragon Ball SD and with Victory Mission.

So my response to the question is, from current experience, yes, I would be okay with it. I would also exercise my right to not care, if it doesn't interest me. (Which is the case with SD)
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Re: Would you be okay if someone else took over Dragon Ball?

Post by Mr.Judge » Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:14 am

Akira Toriyama coalition with Kazuki Nakashima and director Hiroyuki Imaishi for a DB movie would be great.

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Re: Would you be okay if someone else took over Dragon Ball?

Post by Doctor. » Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:23 am

Rukura wrote:Replying to the original post, we already have that. Twice. With Dragon Ball SD and with Victory Mission.

So my response to the question is, from current experience, yes, I would be okay with it. I would also exercise my right to not care, if it doesn't interest me. (Which is the case with SD)
Yes, but not with spin-offs, I mean continuing the Dragon Ball story.

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Re: Would you be okay if someone else took over Dragon Ball?

Post by Rukura » Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:57 am

Doctor. wrote:
Rukura wrote:Replying to the original post, we already have that. Twice. With Dragon Ball SD and with Victory Mission.

So my response to the question is, from current experience, yes, I would be okay with it. I would also exercise my right to not care, if it doesn't interest me. (Which is the case with SD)
Yes, but not with spin-offs, I mean continuing the Dragon Ball story.
Oh, okay then, fair enough. My answer's still the same, though.
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Re: Would you be okay if someone else took over Dragon Ball?

Post by shinmaru » Sat Aug 23, 2014 2:29 pm

If they keep the same style animation and not downgrade it like Transformers then it's OK.
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Re: Would you be okay if someone else took over Dragon Ball?

Post by Jackal puFF » Sat Aug 23, 2014 2:44 pm

If they worked closely with Akira Toriyama or had him as a consultant, I would be okay with it I guess... Not really though. Episode of Bardock was like that wasn't it?

Maybe if some other people came with ideas and then they made Toriyama write about these ideas and make them his own, then yeah I would be alright with that. If there's anything Toriyama can do, it's he can improvise and roll with his ideas.

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Re: Would you be okay if someone else took over Dragon Ball?

Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:11 pm

Only if they understood the canon and know it by heart. Thats something that is the make or break of this series. Episode of Bardock was terrible because it added nothing at all to the series but fanbase plotholes. The only way the series could be successfully transfered to someone else, as others said if Akira Toriyama is supervising, art director and head consultant. I'm sure a lot of fans could write far better stories that would suit the series better than what we've been getting lately but it wont be accepted by anyone unless he accepts it. Though I dont see this happening I want someone else credible to take over, not character fanboys/girls and not fans from other anime (unless they were writters themselves that Toriyama likes) but people who know the material and remember more of it than he does currently.

It would be cool if Akira Toriyama had some doujinshi sent to him and whatever ones he liked the most and fit the canon would be reworked into something he could work with. As long as they were japanese fans though that know the real DB experience and not Americans who just turn it into BrolyBallZ.
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Post by ImmaDeker » Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:00 am

I'd love to see a Dragonball reboot written by Marty Isenberg.

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Post by JackyBoi99 » Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:52 am

I would be happy if Yoshihiro Togashi took over, only problem is that he likes to take long breaks in production :? .
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Re: Would you be okay if someone else took over Dragon Ball?

Post by DarkPrince_92 » Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:34 pm

Anyone see Boondocks Season 4? I think it would go something like that if Dragon Ball was just uprooted. I don't think it'll have the same appeal that attracted us to it in the first place. Sure we got things like Dragon Ball Multiverse, which I think is great, but it still isn't the Dragon Ball Toriyama wrote, even if it was a just "a job" to him.
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