"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

[Hellspawn28]

To be fair, Bebi Vegeta toss a statement about having the "greatest of Saiya power", which Goku agreed, extending that Bebi Vegeta he had the most awesome ki he ever sensed. Whether or not he's including everyone, along with Vegetto, is up for people's interpretation. I personally put SSj4 Goku above SSG Goku and Vegetto.

I would imagine that statement would contradict itself now. SSjG Goku is stated to be his strongest form and Goku said that fusion won't be strong enough to beat Beerus. Powerscaling wise SSj3 Vegito would be stronger then SSj4 Goku. I mean if SSj Gogeta is stronger then SSj3 Goku then SSj3 Vegito should be stronger then SSj4 Goku.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

It was precautionary. If Vegeta died then what's the use of the earrings? There isn't one. It would be all for naught, yes?

What precaution? If Goku would have immediately went and got the Potara after Bubbles gave him the senzu and then went to give one of them to Vegeta, he would have arrived practically right after Beerus. Shunkan-ido is instant, and Whis' staff travel isn't. He and Vegeta would have had the Potara before the fighting ever broke out. And if Goten and Trunks had time to fuse with the Metamorean method on the sidelines, then the two of them could have fused into Vegetto with little trouble in the same manner.

[Flopro18]

It was precautionary. If Vegeta died then what's the use of the earrings? There isn't one. It would be all for naught, yes?

What precaution? If Goku would have immediately went and got the Potara after Bubbles gave him the senzu and then went to give one of them to Vegeta, he would have arrived practically right after Beerus. Shunkan-ido is instant, and Whis' staff travel isn't. He and Vegeta would have had the Potara before the fighting ever broke out. And if Goten and Trunks had time to fuse with the Metamorean method on the sidelines, then the two of them could have fused into Vegetto with little trouble in the same manner.

The World could have been gone by the time he arrived... or well, didn't arrive. Vegeta stood no chance to defend the earth so if Beerus really wanted them to die, they'd have been dead before Goku arrived. No matter how fast Goku could get the earrings, if Beerus wanted Vegeta to die, it would have already been too late, no? The earrings would be useless, unless he wanted to fuse with Gohan... which Heroes should totally do.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Why would everyone be dead? Beerus wasn't going there to destroy, he was going there to find the Super Saiyan God. He even said that he wouldn't destroy the Earth, unless something annoyed him.

And again, Goku was clear: he didn't use the Potara, because it wouldn't be enough. It wasn't because he didn't have time to get the Potara, or anything like that. It was because the Potara wouldn't be enough.

[Flopro18]

Why would everyone be dead? Beerus wasn't going there to destroy, he was going there to find the Super Saiyan God. He even said that he wouldn't destroy the Earth, unless something annoyed him.

And again, Goku was clear: he didn't use the Potara, because it wouldn't be enough. It wasn't because he didn't have time to get the Potara, or anything like that. It was because the Potara wouldn't be enough.

My opinion still stands... even though the topic has changed numerous times lol. SS3 Vegito > SS4 Goku Dragon Saga > SS4 Goku 17 Saga > Beerus > SS4 Goku Baby Saga >/= Vegito > SSG Goku Maybe this can be put in a Versus thread or something. But IMO the forms SSG and SS4 are still equal.

[GoldLiger]

Don't you guys think that maybe God Ki can nullify regular ki? Didn't you see how Beerus easily beat SS3 Goku with less than 5 hits? There is a reason why it was stated in the movie that Ki users can't sense God Ki.

[Flopro18]

Don't you guys think that maybe God Ki can nullify regular ki? Didn't you see how Beerus easily beat SS3 Goku with less than 5 hits? There is a reason why it was stated in the movie that Ki users can't sense God Ki.

Nah, it's just a power difference. Vegeta getting those hits in on Beerus is why I say this. I don't think it nullifies if but gives the user a different level of KI. It weighs heavier though since it's insensible to those who don 't posses it.

[GoldLiger]

Don't you guys think that maybe God Ki can nullify regular ki? Didn't you see how Beerus easily beat SS3 Goku with less than 5 hits? There is a reason why it was stated in the movie that Ki users can't sense God Ki.

Nah, it's just a power difference. Vegeta getting those hits in on Beerus is why I say this. I don't think it nullifies if but gives the user a different level of KI. It weighs heavier though since it's insensible to those who don 't posses it.

When Vegeta punched Beerus did it have a visual effect on the God? Like a bruise or little blood from the mouth?

[Flopro18]

No but when a fighter gets KO'd, do you always see a bruise or blood? Not always

[GoldLiger]

No but when a fighter gets KO'd, do you always see a bruise or blood? Not always

You don't get what this means do you? Try watching that part of the fight in slow motion 3 times then come back here. You should be able to see it then.

[Flopro18]

No but when a fighter gets KO'd, do you always see a bruise or blood? Not always

You don't get what this means do you? Try watching that part of the fight in slow motion 3 times then come back here. You should be able to see it then.

What is "it"? I can't see it if I don't know what it is?

[Flopro18]

Soooooo, JM7. Broly looks pretty awesome to me. It's all I've wanted in a SS4 Broly design. Did anyone feel the same or different?

[KentalSSJ6]

Soooooo, JM7. Broly looks pretty awesome to me. It's all I've wanted in a SS4 Broly design. Did anyone feel the same or different?

I think me and Devil's Corpse share the same thoughts in that we would have preferred to see a SSJ4 Broly that didn't have the traits of his LSSJ form like so -



I get Broly is known for his whole LSSJ schtick but it would have been refreshing to see something Broly related thats NOT all muscles and huge. Would be nice to get some non LSSJ Broly content instead of shoehorning it into all his forms.

[ImmaDeker]

It's a shame more of these characters don't get tie-in movies. Majin Baby Janemba is a reality warping monster from Hell who got infected by a robot and then mind controlled by a space wizard. Where's that guy's tie-in movie?

Hell, he can team up with SSJ4 Broly for good measure. I'd watch that glorious clusterfuck.

[budokaifanatic007]

Well it seems that Piccolo will be getting his teen form soon So hopefully this means Teen Goku next.

[Hellspawn28]

Goku was 18 or 19 in the 23rd Tenkachi Budokai, can we really call him "Teen Goku"? Gohan at the Buu saga was 17 and yet everyone seems to call him "Adult Gohan". Teen Goku would be Goku during his fight with Piccolo Daimo in my opinion.

[VegettoEX]

Gohan at the Buu saga was 17 and yet everyone seems to call him "Adult Gohan".

FUNimation dub thing. They call Cell Game era Gohan "Teen Gohan" and Buu arc "Adult Gohan".

[Gyt Kaliba]

Gohan at the Buu saga was 17 and yet everyone seems to call him "Adult Gohan".

FUNimation dub thing. They call Cell Game era Gohan "Teen Gohan" and Buu arc "Adult Gohan".

Well, 17 is only one year away from the generally accepted 'coming-of-age' that is 18, so...*shrugs* I thought Gohan was 16 in the Boo arc though?

Also, correct me if I'm wrong someone, but even beyond giving the 'Teen' and 'Adult' monikers, the dub altered his age anyway, going all the way back to the Ocean dub, right? Gohan was...4, I think, during the Raditz material, but the old dub made him...7-ish?

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Gohan at the Buu saga was 17 and yet everyone seems to call him "Adult Gohan".

FUNimation dub thing. They call Cell Game era Gohan "Teen Gohan" and Buu arc "Adult Gohan".

Yeah, in the Japanese games, "Teen Gohan" is Gohan: Boyhood, and "Adult Gohan" is Gohan: Adolescence.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong someone, but even beyond giving the 'Teen' and 'Adult' monikers, the dub altered his age anyway, going all the way back to the Ocean dub, right? Gohan was...4, I think, during the Raditz material, but the old dub made him...7-ish?

Wasn't he made 5?

[Gyt Kaliba]

Also, correct me if I'm wrong someone, but even beyond giving the 'Teen' and 'Adult' monikers, the dub altered his age anyway, going all the way back to the Ocean dub, right? Gohan was...4, I think, during the Raditz material, but the old dub made him...7-ish?

Wasn't he made 5?

It may have been 5, I'm not really sure. I haven't seen that first bit of the dub, or even the UUC redub, in quite some time now. For some reason I thought I remembered the difference being more substantial though...hmm.