Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

[rereboy]

The acquisition of which would become comically easy with infinite power. The world has a food surplus; there's way more than enough food for everyone to go around. This is not the problem. While infinite power wouldn't instantly usher in a utopia, it would greatly improve the standard of living just about everywhere.

That's only currently. Just to give you an example, the current global food production is dependent on fertilizers. A key ingredient of fertilizers, and of all life, is phosphorus. There's simply no life or effective fertilizers without phosphorus and there's no possible substitute. And the acquisition of phosphorus today is easy because its easily extracted from great phosphorus deposits. However, there are finite number of these great deposits and once they run out, the acquisition of phosphorus would be instantly much more difficult, and the production of fertilizers would be much more difficult. Eventually there could come a time where their production would not meet the needs and global food distribution would take a severe hit. That event is called peak phosphorus if you care to research it.

And why does this happen? Because these things all have finite quantities even when there's more than enough for everyone. Infinite energy doesn't solve this at all. Infinite energy just removes one of the finite things from the equation. It certainly would make things easier, no doubt, but there would still be many problems/issues/whatever.

My question is: are these things stated, or they are assumptions? Is it stated that Dr. Gero couldn't make them weaker than that?

Its specifically stated that Dr. Gero suppressed #18's power a bit to try to make her more controllable. So, he could make them weaker if he wanted to. And he probably could make them even stronger, he just didn't think he would need to since he believed that Goku and the others would be much weaker than they actually were and he and #19 even considered Yamcha's power level in the android arc comparable to the power level they expected Goku to have.

[Malik_DBNA]

My question is: are these things stated, or they are assumptions? Is it stated that Dr. Gero couldn't make them weaker than that?

From what I am able to gather from what is stated in the manga, and based on the power differences from #8 up to #20, Dr. Gero had the capabilities to measure and capacitate the amount of power his creations had. Of course, like with any technology, it improved with time. Dr. Gero, apparently, based the power capabilities of his later creations on numbers derived from calculating Son Goku's power (at the time) at (as he says in the manga) the "most extreme rate of improvement". Son Goku improved only by small degrees during his teens up to when Raditz arrived on Earth. Then in less than a year, his power jumps from around 400 to 8000. That's 2000 x stronger, not including the buffers with Kaio-Ken. In all likelihood, Dr. Gero could easily have calculated Son Goku's power to be in the hundreds of thousands (possibly even in the single or two-digit millions) at such a rate, then factoring in how Son Goku's strength increases dramatically when his opponents are only slightly stronger than himself, Gero would aim to make his creations' power output exceed even these numbers.

Its possible that 17 and 18's Infinite Energy Reactor is designed specifically to work with organic beings, as 17 and 18 are his only two cybernetic creations. Cell is bio-engineered, so I don't believe that counts him being cybernetic. It should also be noted that it was stated that Dr. Gero focused too much on 17 and 18's power capabilities, which could account for their immense power.

Personally, I never understood why people take so much offense to No.17 and No.18 being stronger than Freeza. Looking from a logical standpoint, if I were to build a robot equal in size to myself, using the best technology I can, its entirely plausible that the inherent strength of that robot would be significantly greater than my own. We're also talking about a fictional setting, where people can atomize ANYTHING into a small capsule, then re-atomize it to normal size with no drawback, so its obvious that the Dragon World's Earth is FAR more technologically advanced than our own. So, if a hydraulic arm in the same proportions as a human arm can be built with the power to flip a car with little effort (ah, the Discovery Channel is a wonderful thing) in OUR world, then surely in a fictional world with technology FAR eclipsing our own (come on, the guy has already built sentient machines. And the Capsule thing from before), then surely the notion of a mad scientist who is years (possibly decades) ahead of his time in the field of robotics and cybernetics creating machines that vastly out-power an organic being are not beyond the realm of possibility.

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[TonyTheTiger]

Dammit. I guess it was obvious though.

And if he's still alive I bet Cui is going to sabotage Vegeta's escape.

[FlpShimizu]

I kinda feel sorry for Cui, he wanted to share the pod

[Skar]

Since that is not the case however, I too kind of hope for their continued adventures in space. Like a buddy comedy.

Buddy comedy about U7? Why not try Gast & Palz ! Cui's still alive there!

[Scarz]

Damn... I was really hoping they'd become friends. I'm not even joking.

Guess I should have known better because... well, Vegeta.

[RandomGuy96]

Damn... I was really hoping they'd become friends. I'm not even joking.

Guess I should have known better because... well, Vegeta.

Ditto. Poor Cui.

[FoolsGil]

Do people understand now, why Vegeta should never be loved or revered?! Goodness I hope a stray blast from Cold annihilates him as he tries to leave orbit. Asshole.

[DarkPrince_92]

Lmao, Vegeta is too real. Not a huge loss... it's just Cui.

[Fionordequester]

Do people understand now, why Vegeta should never be loved or revered?! Goodness I hope a stray blast from Cold annihilates him as he tries to leave orbit. Asshole.

Hey now, he got better towards the end at least ...

[Gyt Kaliba]

Aww, poor Cui. I still like my idea better of the repeated panel of Vegeta just blowing him away, playing even more for laughs. But I guess this way, there's still potential for Cui to screw Vegeta over with his last breath maybe.

[dario03]

Do people understand now, why Vegeta should never be loved or revered?! Goodness I hope a stray blast from Cold annihilates him as he tries to leave orbit. Asshole.

He'll probably end up getting thrown right into Cold's deathball or something. But until then all hail Vegeta! The most loved and revered prince ever.

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[FoolsGil]

Did Cold actually compress the power of the death ball?

[Marco Polo]

Why is a rock saying "..." in the fifth panel? Like, wut.

[KentalSSJ6]

Did Cold actually compress the power of the death ball?

Pretty sure that makes it all the more powerful.

[rereboy]

Why is a rock saying "..." in the fifth panel? Like, wut.

Because Vegeta's pod is passing behind it as we see in the next panel. Minimal interpretation effort.

[FoolsGil]

Did Cold actually compress the power of the death ball?

Pretty sure that makes it all the more powerful.

I meant size.

[mAcChaos]

Why is a rock saying "..." in the fifth panel? Like, wut.

Because Vegeta's pod is passing behind it as we see in the next panel. Minimal interpretation effort.

No, it's that little alien kid.

Gast: "Find some cover."
Alien kid: "..."
Alien kid: "Okay..."

It's meant to show how hopeless it looks, while he looks at the entire planet around him about to be blasted away.