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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread

Post by MCDaveG » Wed Sep 10, 2014 6:34 pm

Kid Buu wrote:It actually amazes me to this day that there was never a crossover between DBZ and Seiya considering they are both Shonen Jump series, licensed by Toei, and share a lot of mutual voice actors.
Saint Seiya wasn't that huge. I found it only because it aired in France alongside Dragon Ball. + they didn't adapted the Hades arc up until the 2000's and stoped with Poseidon in 1989.
There are also horrible design decisions and story alterations in the first anime arc when you compare it to manga. People complaining about DB should watch Saint Seiya. But yeah, I am great fan!
I think that crossover wasn't big thing back then. Only in shared universes like in case of Super Sentai.
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Post by xmysticgohanx » Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:15 pm

The original SSJ god being female would actually be pretty cool. DB needs female fighters imo

sidenote: I'd be fine if Toriyama retconned the 28th Budokai [Uub should stay tho (with Kaioken :roll: )]
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:52 pm

xmysticgohanx wrote:The original SSJ god being female would actually be pretty cool. DB needs female fighters imo

sidenote: I'd be fine if Toriyama retconned the 28th Budokai [Uub should stay tho (with Kaioken :roll: )]
As long as we don't get any BS with it turning out to be Gine.
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Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:40 pm

JulieYBM wrote:The following is very idle speculation. Please be forewarned that it is not confirmed.

Word is Studio Guts announced on their Twitter account--I have yet to discern which tweet this was--that Nakatani Yukiko would be taking on the role of character designer for a long-running series. Nakatani is most often thought of in relation to her wide work as one of the best animation supervisors for One Piece. Nakatani has performed the role of character designer for the franchise before with Episode of Nami and did sub-character designs under Character Designer Inoue Eisaku for Episode of Merry. For Episode of Nami she and Ide Takeo were the only two credited animation supervisors, but there were eight assistant animation supervisors, so my thinking is that in reality Nakatani was a chief animation supervisor. Toei Animation cartoons are very strange with their credits and don't always match up with the rest of the industry. It took forever for Hisada Kazuya--who has been character designer since 2009 or so--to be credited as a chief animation supervisor in addition to his usual character design credit.

Nakatani taking over as character designer makes a lot of sense. She has done so for specials before, is very talented, was once featured on a variety show's segment with regards to One Piece, and is relatively young. Woman have recently become very prominent within the industry, so I wouldn't be surprised if her mentors at Studio Guts are trying to let her move on from the nest. Recently, the president of Studio Guts, Iso'ichi Yuusuke, has been performing the role of animation supervisor for the episodes of One Piece sub-contracted to Studio Guts. This has me wondering if this will not be a regular thing, given how little Nakatani has worked on the franchise as of late. Her last credit was for Episode #638 (30 March 2014). Oddly enough, she did not work on One Piece 3D2Y, either.

Hisada has been with One Piece since Episode #1 as an animation supervisor and key animator. A little over four hundred episodes later he took over the role of character designer from former Dragon Ball GT animation supervisor, Koizumi Noboru. The series is now two hundred seventy episodes past that. I wouldn't be surprised if Hisada wanted to move on by now. With Yamamuro Tadayoshi taking over as director of the 2015 Dragon Ball Z film it would make sense he would call in Hisada Kazuya. Hisada was an assistant animation supervisor for Yamamuro on Dragon Ball Z movie eight and the tenth anniversary movie, so they're hardly unacquainted. If Hisada took over for Yamamuro as character designer the workload would be less than a weekly television series in the long run.

Again, this is all idle speculation that will likely be proven false, but I do find it to be an interesting turn of events.
If that's true, and I hope that is the case, that Yamamuro Tadayoshi has hired talented Nakatani Yukiko to take the role of the character designer, then she would be able to handle it well enough given the time they have to prepare the production for Dragon Ball Z 2015 movie. With her, she might be able to attract more talents around her to work on the new movie. The animation quality may be jumped from the 2013 movie. With Tate, Oonishi, Nakatsuru, Shida, maybe Hisada, and among few others to be the animation supervisors working under Nakatani, at least we could have a tad bit more expectation in seeing an improved quality in animations, assuming they will have the same amount of cuts Battle of Gods had . This is Yamamuro's first time directing the movie, let alone directing in any of the series in his career, this does worry me a bit, but if he does well enough for the movie, then we will have pretty entertaining movie to watch.

I recalled there was one occasion where there was a time when one animator (I forget what his name was) expressed his heavy dislike in Yamamuro's models for last year's movie. With Yamamuro being the director and possibly moved on being the character designer, Nakatani possibly taking over the role, do you think he would be willing to get involved with the movie? It will be pretty interesting from here out.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread

Post by JulieYBM » Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:46 pm

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:If that's true, and I hope that is the case, that Tadayoshi Yamamuro hired talented Nakatani Yukiko to take the role of the character designer, then she would be able to handle it well enough given the time they have to prepare the production for Dragon Ball Z 2015 movie. With her, she might be able to attract more talents around her to work on the new movie. The animation quality may be jumped from the 2013 movie. With Tate, Oonishi, Nakatsuru, Shida, maybe Hisada, and among few others to be the animation supervisors working under Nakatani, at least we could have a tad bit more expectation in seeing an improved quality in animations. This is Yamamuro's first time directing the movie, let alone directing in any of the series in his career, this does worry me a bit, but if he does well enough for the movie, then we will have pretty entertaining movie to watch.
Nakatani doesn't have any real experience alongside Yamamuro, so I'm not entirely sure she would be involved. Then again, were Nakatani taking over as the One Piece character designer I imagine it would have been a few weeks ago, so she could very well be going to a third franchise I am unaware of.
I recalled there was one occasion where there was a time when one animator (I forget what his name was) expressed his heavy dislike in Yamamuro's models for last year's movie. With Yamamuro being the director and possibly moved one being the character designer, Nakatani possibly taking over the role, do you think he would be willing to get involved with the movie? It will be pretty interesting from here out.
That was Kameda Yoshimichi, who doesn't have any real connections at Toei Animation to begin with. If he could be hunted down via Twitter or a friend-of-a-friend he might participate, but it's really hard to say either way.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread

Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:01 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:
xmysticgohanx wrote:The original SSJ god being female would actually be pretty cool. DB needs female fighters imo

sidenote: I'd be fine if Toriyama retconned the 28th Budokai [Uub should stay tho (with Kaioken :roll: )]
As long as we don't get any BS with it turning out to be Gine.
For some reason that doesnt sound completely impossible going by Toriyama's current direction.
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If Shenron is reviving this alledged Super Saiyan God, how would he even have a body? And I think he fits the quota of dying by natural causes breaking his legibility or am I missing something?
RandomGuy96 wrote:New theory: this movie will somehow be linked with that crappy retcon Toriyama made about Buu. It seems like he was trying to draw a connection between Buu and Beerus. Of course I could be wrong, and it could all be pointless.
I honestly saw that as the least damaging of his retcons, as long as it doesnt involve more Planet Vegeta & Freeza, this would be fresh air. I honestly would have rathered they connected Buu to Beerus, I mean he has no connection to anything in the story really. He just appeared 1000 years ago. If this movie would lead up to how Buu specifically gets reincarnated then all would be fine. Freeza was pure evil and he didnt get a reincarnation. Buu being a force of nature is the only way its logical as I see it.
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Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:07 pm

Didn't you say that Nakatani was given little workload for One Piece recently, with her last credit being five months ago? That might mean that Yamamuro would be thinking of trying to convince her to work for him, since she has an experience on the role of character designer.
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Post by Kid Buu » Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:08 pm

MCDaveG wrote:
Kid Buu wrote:It actually amazes me to this day that there was never a crossover between DBZ and Seiya considering they are both Shonen Jump series, licensed by Toei, and share a lot of mutual voice actors.
Saint Seiya wasn't that huge. I found it only because it aired in France alongside Dragon Ball. + they didn't adapted the Hades arc up until the 2000's and stoped with Poseidon in 1989.
There are also horrible design decisions and story alterations in the first anime arc when you compare it to manga. People complaining about DB should watch Saint Seiya. But yeah, I am great fan!
I think that crossover wasn't big thing back then. Only in shared universes like in case of Super Sentai.
Oh, I thought Seiya was their biggest international franchise outside of DB?

Also can you PM me the differences? I only saw the anime this year, and tried reading the manga but didn't like the artwork.
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Post by JulieYBM » Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:35 pm

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Didn't you say that Nakatani was given little workload for One Piece recently, with her last credit being five months ago? That might mean that Yamamuro would be thinking of trying to convince her to work for him, since she has an experience on the role of character designer.
While it's not entirely impossible, if she had taken over the role of character designer for Dragon Ball within the last five months I'd have to think that we would know it by now. Nakatani wouldn't go so long without working on something if she was merely considering a role.
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Post by miguelnuva1 » Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:15 am

Buu can't be a force of nature. A force of nature is neutral and destroys just be existing. Buu is pure evil and was hunting Goku and Vegeta.

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Post by Low Tone G » Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:23 am

miguelnuva1 wrote:Buu can't be a force of nature. A force of nature is neutral and destroys just be existing. Buu is pure evil and was hunting Goku and Vegeta.
Can we call him a force of nature? Yeah his wasn't created by Bibidi, but still he is simply the ancient evil(or one of them, if the new villain is also something like him).
SingleFringe&Sparks wrote:If Shenron is reviving this alledged Super Saiyan God, how would he even have a body? And I think he fits the quota of dying by natural causes breaking his legibility or am I missing something?
I guess the Original Saiyan God was killed by evil Oozarus, being that, he was simply allowed to keep his body, but never got revived. Shenlon said that he was a saviour, so he can possibly be treated like Goku was in the Saiyan and Cell saga.
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Post by Chuquita » Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:28 am

Saikyou Jump picked an awful time to go bi-monthly. T_T That's one less source of updates.
VJump's still a week away, but even then I'm still not sure if the "DB15 is early May, BOG was the very last day in March" means we're waiting until October for the equivalent of BOG's September 2012 info dump.

I hope they add an "English" set page as an option on the DB15 site the way they did with BOG. I did appreciate that.
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Post by Low Tone G » Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:34 am

Chuquita wrote:Saikyou Jump picked an awful time to go bi-monthly. T_T That's one less source of updates.
VJump's still a week away, but even then I'm still not sure if the "DB15 is early May, BOG was the very last day in March" means we're waiting until October for the equivalent of BOG's September 2012 info dump.
It was stated that the new ovie will be an issue of talk(or kinda) of the September edition o Saikyo Jump. I a really hope that even the title of it will revealed till then.
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Post by sintzu » Thu Sep 11, 2014 4:25 am

Low Tone G wrote: It was stated that the new movie will be an issue of talk(or kinda) of the September edition o Saikyo Jump. I a really hope that even the title of it will revealed till then.
When will the issue be released ?
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sintzu wrote:
Low Tone G wrote: It was stated that the new movie will be an issue of talk(or kinda) of the September edition o Saikyo Jump. I a really hope that even the title of it will revealed till then.
When will the issue be released ?
I don't know when it will be the date.
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Post by VegettoEX » Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:42 am

sintzu wrote:When will the issue be released ?
October 3rd. The magazine appears to have suddenly gone bi-monthly after the September issue's release back in early August.
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Post by Low Tone G » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:48 am

Yep, I was wrong, it's not the Saikyo Jump, but the V-Jumphttp://www.kanzenshuu.com/2014/07/15/v- ... velopment/
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Post by VegettoEX » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:51 am

There is some built-in sway time if there is a holiday (like releasing a day earlier or later), but generally:
  • V-Jump is released on the 21st of every month.
  • Saikyō Jump is released on the 3rd/4th of the month when it's released (which has been monthly for a couple years now, but is seemingly bi-monthly for the foreseeable future).
  • Weekly Shōnen Jump is released each Monday.
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Post by sintzu » Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:15 pm

When Goku absorbed Beerus' attack he was told that he was the 2nd strongest opponent he fought so could the new villain be the 1st one ?

I know a lot would say that whis is the 1st cause he's his teacher but no one as far as i know ever said it's him.
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Post by VegettoEX » Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:23 pm

sintzu wrote:I know a lot would say that whis is the 1st cause he's his teacher but no one as far as i know ever said it's him.
It's so heavily implied that Beerus is referring to Whis. He looks over there, Whis kinda coughs... I mean, let's not get crazy with these interpretations!
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