Does Kai Uncut overuse swears?

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Re: Does Kai Uncut overuse swears?

Post by ChibiGoku » Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:29 am

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
EXBadguy wrote:I don't think they're overused at all. I don't see why anyone would be offended by the swear words. The JP dub used them too and there was no outrage, so why with this one? Hell, I'd laugh if Vegeta or Trunks called 18 a bitch(yeah, yeah "that's so offensive and uncalled for!" shut up who cares).
If I'm not mistaken, most swear words have a totally different connotation in Japanese than they do in English. It's not really comparable.
Yeah, it's a bit different in the Japanese language. Although the words can be translates as swear words, Japan doesn't really have swearing, like we do. There's is a level of harshness and rudeness in words and delivery that can be more emphasized as swearing, but inherently they aren't considered swearing. Heck, Sonic X, which aired in Japan during Sunday mornings, had Sonic swear a couple times in English. One instance of it being "Shit", for example. However, there is the idea of vulgarity with certain words, which are forbidden on broadcast in Japan (such as slurs). Other than that, it's a non-issue here.

I think when it comes down to it at the end of the day, they're just words. They emphasis emotion at the time how one feels and what not. However, sadly, society has deemed these words inappropriate, vulgar, and what not, thus the language can't be said.

I still find the concept of censoring Hell strange, when people grow up with the concept of it's existence. I remember Cartoons in the 90s still acknowledged it's existence, but after a certain point, it was danced around.

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Re: Does Kai Uncut overuse swears?

Post by Jackal puFF » Sat Sep 20, 2014 4:44 am

Goku sure loves saying damn... I'm trying to make a mental list who says damn the most and Goku wins by far. Damn.

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Re: Does Kai Uncut overuse swears?

Post by Blade » Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:58 am

In my experience Funimation definitely overuses 'bastard' as a translation of 'kono yaro' when they could just as easily go for something more tepid. I'm not entirely sure why they do this, but if I had to guess, it's to appeal to the 'Anime isn't for kids' demographic. I mean, the concept of 'uncut' anime has always been appealing to Dragonball fans in America, so if anything, going with more colourful translations gives a tone of authenticity and credibility to the term 'uncut' - but that's just my suspicion.
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Re: Does Kai Uncut overuse swears?

Post by theoriginalbilis » Sun Sep 21, 2014 12:18 pm

Call me a philistine if you want, but I think punching up the script a bit can help certain anime shows.

For example, anime like Angel Cop and Mad Bull 34 are FAR more entertaining in their English dub incarnations. Then again, those shows were already questionably produced, crass, and offensive to being with, and the added profanity just pushes the offensiveness even further.

For something like Dragon Ball though, the translators/scriptwriters should find a good balance between making the dialogue work naturally in English and keeping true to the intent of the dialogue. In other words, they should be really careful in what they choose to "punch up". I think for Kai and Battle of Gods, they've done about as good of a job as they can without resorting back to the old FUNi Z dub shenanigans, even though the occasional odd line still pops in now and again.
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Re: Does Kai Uncut overuse swears?

Post by LordCrumb » Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:22 am

People can always watch the TV Edited version too, if they are that offended?

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